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Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJun-06-2012 3:42 PMTo understand the Secrets of the the contents of the urns/ampules we first have to separate them into their component parts...
[Edited 02-12-2012]
[u]The Seed[/u]
[img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/prometheusE_screencap7.jpg[/img]
A genetically engineered substance created by the Engineers, it is stored within the vials found within the urns/ampules.
This thick, viscous black liquid which was consumed by the Sacrificial Engineer (the Seeding) and unwittingly by Holloway, has three underlining properties:
1. When ingested by an organism (Sacrficial Engineer/Hollway) the "Seed" combines with the cells of the organism, causing the host organism to break down at a cellular level - every cell of their body becoming a viral genetic mutagen, capable of being consumed by other organisms.
2. This viral genetic mutagen, when ingested by other organisms, adds/replaces genes of that organism with those of the host whom consumed the "Seed", imprinting the hosts DNA/Genome onto an indigenous ecosystem. This viral genetic mutagen also acts as an evolutionary accelerant, exponentially mutating organisms with the genetic template/traits from the host (LV-223 worms).
3. The evolutionary accelerant aspect of the mutagen also has the side effect of revitalizing dead/dying cells, seeming resulting in re-animation (Shaws womb/Fifield).
[u]The Black Liquid[/u]
[img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/prometheus_screencap47.jpg[/img]
The black slimy liquid stored within the urns/ampules is NOT the same substance that was stored within the vials, and contrary to my original theoryis NOT the genetic material of the Xenomorph. This substance is an inert transmission medium, that when combined with the Seed creates an oil like substance, making weaponized transmission of the Seed more effective.
[u]The Urns/Ampules[/u]
[img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/prometheusK_screencap31.jpg[/img]
The urns/ampules are medium for storing and deploying both the "Seed" and the transmission medium. When triggered/smashed the "Seed" (see above) and the transmission medium mix, creating an oil like substance, that is more viscous than the Seed, and a more effective means of transmission.
[u]The Xenomorph[/u]
[img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/prometheus_screencap49.jpg[/img]
As shown by this mural, the xenomorph is of some importance to the Engineers. Lets look at their known history regards the Xenomorph...
- Thousands of years ago, an Engineer craft carrying a cargo of Xenomorph was forced to land on the moon/planetoid LV-426 when its lone pilot unwillingly became host to one of its cargo.
It may be that this craft had previosly visited LV-223 and acquired a payload of the urns before deploying them onto a distant planet. Then after acquiring the eggs that would have remained after the infestation befell its fate upon its return either to LV-223 or the Engineers home world/system.
- 2000 years ago, a team of Engineers stationed on LV-223 prepared to deploy a cargo of urns/ampules to Earth, when one of them inadvertantly unleashed the contents quarantining the base.
As seen in the movie, the urns are the viral deployment method used to instigate a Xenomorph infestation. The urns were designed to ensure safe transport and efficient deployment of the Xenomorph.
[u]The Dark Truth - Completely Rethought[/u]
Taking what we have learnt about the urns/ampules, their contents and the Engineers established history with the xenomorph, and combining that with what we have seen in the Prometheus and Alien movies, leads us towards a dark, disturbing truth...
[b]Phase 1 - The Seeding[/b]
[img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/sacrificial_engineer_prometheus2.jpg[/img]
[b]The Engineers visit primordial planets supporting basic, simple life, whereupon a lone "Sacrificial Engineer" ingests the "Seed", sacrificed his life and seeding the planet with the seed and his DNA, resulting in an ecosystem entirely dominated by the Xenomorph (This is what we see at the start of the film).[/b]
[b]Phase 2 - The Rebirth[/b]
[b]An ecosystem dominated by the Xenomorph results in the exhausting of viable hosts. To combat this the Xenomorph at a genetic level introduced Y chromosome into its genome, giving rise to infertile males (smooth carapaced warriors), and then fertile males (Kings).[/b]
[b]Upon consummating with Kings, Queens become capable of producing a second type of egg, incubating a sub-species of hosts, pale skinned humanoids - Engineers.[/b]
[b]Phase 3 - The Harvest[/b]
[img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/david_earth.jpg[/img]
[b]Systematically a percentage of these Engineers are drafted into Engineer society. Seeking a more efficient means of reproducing the Engineers weaponize the Seed, for deployment upon worlds inhabited by Engineer children, sired before the weaponization of the Seed (the method of this siring not yet seen).[/b]
[b]The Xenomorph DNA, hidden with "human DNA" asserts itself and spreads across the sired planets, resulting in a Xenomorph dominated ecosystem. Once all viable hosts are exhausted, the King Xenomorph is sired and Engineers are born.[/b]
[b]Phase 3 - Collection[/b]
[img]http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac89/snorkelbottom/AlienInfestedWorld.jpg[/img]
[b]The Engineers collect a percentage of Xenomorph (eggs) before transporting them to a location whereby they can be used to produce more Seed (also as yet unseen).[/b]
[u]Why Create Only To Destroy[/u]
[b]Here's a summary of what we know so far...[/b]
[b][/b]
[b]- A Sacrificial Engineer sacrifices his life, seeding life upon a primordial world, using his own genetic material. To date we the fans have assumed this action, through natural selection and engineering, resulted in billions of clones/children of the Engineer to evolve, in his image - us.[/b]
[b]But The consumption of the Seed by Holloway results in the creation of a Xenomorph in the form of the Deacon, therefore we must assume our initial belief to be false - meaning that the Sacrificial Engineer was not siring a planet of life that would evolve into human form, but instead cultivating a world that would be dominated by the Xenomorph.[/b]
[b]- The Urns show that the urns are a means to deploy the Xenomorph amongst human races also sired by Engineers, as shown by the DNA match in the movie.[/b]
[b]- The Xenomorph extrapolates genetic material from its hosts, propagating its own kind.[/b]
[b]- Once all hosts are exhausted, the Xenomorphs would need a means to continue their existence, otherwise they would die, and only their eggs would remain.[/b]
[b]- The Engineers return to gather the eggs.[/b]
[b][/b]
[b]WHY? Why would the Engineers seed a planet to create millions/billions of clones/children in their image and using their own DNA only to later wipe them out using the Xenomorph? Well I believe I may have the answer...[/b]
[b][/b]
[b]The Xenomorph, as we know it, is capable of eradicating an entire ecosystem of its indigenous population by using said life forms as hosts to propagate its own species. When gestating inside a host, Xenomorph embryos extrapolate genetic material and traits from their host, to add to their own genome and to adapt to the environment and ecosystem which they have been deployed into. It is this trait of the Xenomorph I believe that holds the key...[/b]
[u]Genetic Material[/u]
[img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/prometheusO_screencap14.jpg[/img]
[b]We, the human race have evolved from and continue to evolve from the Engineers genetic material. Our genetic material, our genome is almost identical to that of the Engineers. This same genetic material is extrapolated by the Xenomorph, a deadly genetic and bio-mechanical creation held in some regard by the Engineers, themselves expertics in genetic and bio-mechanical engineering.[/b]
[b][/b]
[b][i]To the Engineers the human race are "Maize". Once we have grown to required amount in number and in the required way, we are harvested, and the Xenomorph is the "Harvester".[/i][/b]
[b][/b]
[b]Our genes/DNA/Genome/genetic material is the "Maize", that is what the Engineers want/need, and the Xenomorph is the means by which to harvest our genetic material. But why?[/b]
318 Replies
VixxWater
MemberOvomorphJun-21-2012 12:03 PMneat theories, they all seem to be from the same perspective... so let me toss out another for fun.
the Creators were bio-engineers, carefully crafting specific DNA for various planets.
at the beginning of the movie, we see a terrorist? experimental scientist? suicide? who steals some DNA stuff, drinks (only way to off himself?) and seeds a planet in a unauthorized way. thus creating a viral infection. earth.
a few million years later the Creators realize there are viral alien infestations scattered around the galaxy. they send out cleanup crews to re-seed the planets and fix the problems. canisters/jars = good seeds. different seeds for different places.
along the way, accident, the various DNA seeds spill, mix, insta DNA goo. so the black goo creating snakes, squids, aliens, etc. was just a genetic mess of stuff that wasnt suppose to be. simple DNA chemical accident.
DNA goo bio spill causes havoc with the clean up crew(s) (good guys), so they land, call for backup and sleep off a few thousand years. space DNA janitor wakes up to *gasp* earth aliens and says oh crap! infection has spread!! defeats viral earth aliens, jams a cleanup canister (good seed, not goo) into the seed blaster and tries to get one off. bummer, he misses :)
end of movie, the virus (humans, squids, xenos) is spreading... towards the Creators home planets...
ironically, the DNA blaster is my idea!! :)
ive always felt that the most likely way we will spread to the stars is by sending robot ships with DNA, or maybe just a jar full of seed..... makes much more sense than astronauts us traveling light years and building space huts on what would be unfriendly planets to us.
Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJun-21-2012 12:10 PMAs much as I like reading the theories of others, it seems most of them start off well then career off into some randomly made up theory, usually trying to link their theory into another, more outlandish theory based upon no/little evidence.
I'm all for creative thoughts and using imagination, but reign back on some of your ideas people. Post your theories here by all means (makes more sense than starting a thread) but at the same time remember the OP of this thread is trying to explain the actual true nature of what these two liquids are responsible for and the ramifications of these two liquids.
Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJun-21-2012 12:15 PM@ slinky - please read the OP carefully, I never said the Xeno's genetic material was contained within the vials. Let me explain...
I'll put it simply...
We have the urn, inside the urn is a black liquid (Xenomorphs genetic material), inside the black liquid are the vials, inside the vials is the "Seed".
SLINKYdinkySON
MemberOvomorphJun-21-2012 2:13 PM@ Snorkel
Ok so essentially we agree then after all that lol. Thanks for clearing that up I can see your theory totally and we both agree that the urns that were oozing were activiated weapons. So now I am in full agreement.
Thanks for expanding on your too many theory comments as well. The way I look at this thread is that it is designed to give others a better understanding of what these substance(s) are and how they work. I don't think this is the forum to discuss potential Engineer motives unless it is a theory that may pertain to the actual need for or action of substance(s). In the end none of us know why the Engineers were doing this, and I think there are other threads where the discussion of their motives would be more appropriate.
I think basically this is more of a how thread than a why thread.
SLINKYdinkySON
MemberOvomorphJun-21-2012 1:17 PM@ snorkel
I did read it carefully but what I don't understand about the way you lay it out is a couple things. If Hollway was only exposed to what was in the vial (and by your theory seed and seed only), then why did Shaw give birth to the first genetic step in creating a Xeno (afterall if there was no Xeno DNA present then this couldn't have occured)?
If the black liquid is the Xeno genetic material, then how could it make the worms evolve at an accelerated rate if the seed remained in the vials?
This is why I believe all the material is in the vials, the Xeno and the seed. Because Shaw experiences both reanimation and a precursor to the Xeno. And I believe when the urns are oozing they have been activated with both materials.
I hope you weren't referring to my theories as being outlandish, I am not trying to lead it into another theory I just want to understand the weapon material as much as I can. Also my evidence for believe there is Engineer DNA involved is mainly because the Xeno that is "synthensized" is clearly genetically different from the Xenos we have been exposed to in the past.
FondofFondue
MemberOvomorphJun-21-2012 2:10 PMGot my mind thinking about the black goo, could the Engineers have planted a slab of solidified black goo millions of years ago on Earth in the form of a black obelisk as seen in 2001 a Space Odyssey?
Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJun-21-2012 1:41 PM@slinky...
When David extracted the vials from the urns he did not wash his hands before breaking upon the vial, hence Holloway was infected with both, but mostly the substance inside the vials - the Seed.
The worms evolved at an accelerated rate because they were exposed to both the both the Seed and the genetic material - when the team opened the door the urns reacted, they were triggered causing the content of the vials (Seed) to mix with the black liquid (Xenomorph genetic material).
And I was speaking generally in terms of theories - often people are subjective and hold firm beliefs, and whenever new information is revealed they steer that info towards their beliefs. In other words they try to use their observations to support their theories, rather than using the observations to form their theories.
I two believe Engineer DNA is involved, they probably designed the Xenomorph using their own genetic material as the starting point.
Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJun-21-2012 2:26 PMTheir motives behind the use of these substances comes hand in hand with the substances themselves - by understanding the contents of the urns and the vials, their purpose and their effects we can hypothesize the motives behind the creation and use of these substances.
They are two sides of the same coin, so to speak.
FondofFondue
MemberOvomorphJun-21-2012 3:06 PMAm I the only one thinking that the joke is on humanity itself in that humanity is the Engineers weapon of mass destruction and that they had an oops moment, and true to type here we are thinking far too logically " it couldnt possibly be us!" could it? hope I,m wrong. P.s where is your evidence to support your arguments? In a science fictional universe any well put "fact" can become reality with enough support.
VixxWater
MemberOvomorphJun-21-2012 3:23 PMdid the awaken Engineer dude load the *urn* into the gun thingy? pointed at far away planets?
if so the *urns* are effectively space motors, and in that case it makes little sense to have them mix (activate) when the door to the storage room opens? you could never use the device.
the ooze happened when the urns became unstable, due to the humans entering the ship. when they first walked in to the storage room the urns were not oozing. whatever problem the Engineers had re-started once the atmosphere kicked in. just like nitro-glycerin, it became unstable. except instead of an explosion, all the well crafted DNA mixed together causing a destructive primordial ooze.
Xenomorphs were not crafted or designed, they are the result of a space age industrial accident involving DNA and highly evolved heat activated nano-particles that can invade and replicate cells. shown in the beginning cut scene. everything the corrupted DNA touches kills and than replicates into something different, something bad, causing more chaos in the DNA and cells of other living things.
its well known here on earth the virii are at the top of the food chain
the Engineers know this accident created a new virii, one that can eventually destroy every living thing.
its now moving towards their home.
Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJun-22-2012 1:23 PMWe can only infer what is in the film - two Archaeologists find multiple references to a star system and the Weyland Corporation spend 3 trillion dollars to send them to LV-223 to find the answers of the pictograms they found.
I doubt the company would spend so much money and send their dying founder and CEO to the wrong location.
Airacuda
MemberOvomorphJun-22-2012 9:32 AMThe Xenomorphs are a biological weapon. They were designed specifically for a purpose,and have just what they need to complete the objective. Fast reproduction,exoskeleton,acid blood etc.
Same way we planned to use them all the Alien movies.
Have you all forgotten that the Engineers left us a map to their weapons development facility and not their home. They seed us,comeback to visit and check on us and probably use us for genetic experimentation and such over the years. Then if a race gets advanced enough to follow the map to their base.They figure we are a threat and use the Xenomorphs to cleanse the planet of all life exept for plants. The Xeno's probably have a short life span and with nothing to eat die soon leaving a nice place.
Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJun-22-2012 10:44 AM@ Airacuda
The use of a weapon never really made any sense, and still doesn't...
For Instance...
- Why would the Engineers create life, wait millions/billions of years, invite it to a weapons base only to wipe them out. serves no purpose whatsoever.
Also it is never explicitly stated in any of the Alien films that W-Y wanted the Xenomorph to be used as a weapon.
spektacooler
MemberOvomorphJun-22-2012 11:54 AM@Snorkelbottom - I like your distinction between the Seed and the Black Goo. But your theory about the Dark Truth & the Xenomorphs is too convoluted for my taste (but may be that's how Lindenhof thinks from what I've read - I haven't seen Lost).
I personally think the two Engineer faction theory makes more sense. My version of that theory is as follows.
A faction of the Engineers (I'll call them the scientists) goes to different planets and seeds them with their DNA to ensure intelligent life like them develops on other planets. To do this, they have developed the seed (as you define it). However, the seed is a closely guarded secret because of its power, and is not shared with non-scientists.
Another faction of the Engineers (I'll call them the politicians) wants the seed to develop bio-weapons. Eventually they succeed in obtaining the seed from the scientists (may be there was a war) and create a bio-weapon (which is what is stored in those ampules). The politicians also want to destroy the life that the scientists created, and Earth was the next planet on their list before something went terribly wrong. LV-232 used to be a "monastery" or a "temple" for the scientists, but after the politicians took over the moon, they turned it into a military installation.
Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJun-22-2012 12:09 PM@spektacooler...
The dark truth element of what I wrote is simple...
The Engineers created us to be clones of themselves, why? this is answered via the Xenomorph, which while also being a highly effective eradicator is also a harvester of genetic material from its hosts. Combining these two known facts we can deduce that the Engineers bred us for genetic material, probably to add to their own to further their evolution artficially. And the means of which to harvest and gather said material is the Xenomorph - thus all we are to them is a means to continue as a species, nothing more.
Although you theory is common, it is hindered by two elements...
- there is no evidence of a conflict between two Engineer factions.
- Why did your good Engineers point to LV-223 after the bad Engineers had taken it over.
spektacooler
MemberOvomorphJun-22-2012 12:25 PM@Snorkel - why didn't the engineers simply gather the genetic material - e.g., in a test tube? using a xenomorph seems to be the most risky way of gathering new genetic material.
my responses to your questions about the 2 faction theory.
- there is no evidence of a conflict between two Engineer factions.
this will be revealed in sequels.
- Why did your good Engineers point to LV-223 after the bad Engineers had taken it over.
they didn't. when they were pointing to LV-223, it was a monastery. i think the latest cave painting was much older than 0 AD. in the intervening time, the politician faction of the engineers converted the monastery into a military base.
Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJun-22-2012 1:00 PMThe use of the Xenomorph allows vast amounts of genetic material to be harvested. Once deployed, and once all hosts have been exhausted the Xenomorphs would die out, making the material easier to gather. They need mass amounts of genetic material, from billions of specimens. This shown by the intent of using the Xenomorph to wipe out something that was created.
My response to your responses are...
A sequel, should it happen, would venture into the Engineers home world/system and lead to the answers of why they created us and why the intended to wipe us out. Two answers, as you suggest would confuse the audience and convolute the story too much, whereas one asnwer that ties the two questions together opens up the possibility for further expansion and exemplifies the relationship between us and the Engineers, as well as the relationship between the Engineers and the Xenomorph (the mural suggests it to be important).
The good Engineers you hypothesized pointed us to LV-223 throughout our ancient history, including a visitation circa 600 ad in Hawaii. Yet the bad Engineers you suggest intended to wipe us out, from LV-223 2000 years ago. They pointed to your bad engineers weapons base.
spektacooler
MemberOvomorphJun-22-2012 1:12 PM@Snorkel
- including a visitation circa 600 ad in Hawaii.
well, that pretty much refutes my theory that the good engineers were pointing to the "monastery".
except... why is everyone assuming that the star map points to lv-223? it points to a system. lv-223 is a moon on that system. yes, it is the only moon that has earth like qualities, but may be the star map was not intended to be interpreted that way. may be the star map was actually pointing to another planet/moon in the same system that is not earth-like.
if it is true that the star map doesn't necessarily point to lv-223, then the good/bad engineer theory might still have some life.
spektacooler
MemberOvomorphJun-22-2012 3:31 PMsnorkel said "I doubt the company would spend so much money and send their dying founder and CEO to the wrong location."
i may be wrong, but not because of that doubt.
the whole project was based on a hunch (the best reason the archeologists could come up with was "because i choose to believe"). even weyland's daughter (and arguably the corporate board) did not think the project was a good idea.
weyland was dying. that's the key. weyland was desperate. this was not a corporate decision. this was not a rational decision. this was a decision that was made by one desperate, dying person. when you see it in that context, making a 3 trillion dollar mistake is entirely believable.
spektacooler
MemberOvomorphJun-22-2012 4:25 PMbtw, how do you explain the 600 ad visitation according to your theory? the engineers wanted to come to earth around 0 ad to wipe us out. however, something horrible happened in lv-223 and the engineers presumably died soon thereafter.
this raises two questions. (1) how did they manage to make it to hawaii in 600 ad? and (2) if the managed to make it to hawaii, why did they just do a show & tell and not infect us with the black goo?
Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJun-22-2012 4:35 PMI admire your persistence...
The Engineers on LV-223 created the new, viral version of the Xenomorph after what happened to the pilot on LV-426. There intention after creating the Xenomorph MKII was to deploy it on earth to harvest us for our genetic material because we were high enough in number, suitable evolved and relatively defenseless.
But the one of the Engineers inadvertantly unleashed the Xenomorph MKII on LV-223, causing the base to be quarantined...
So we have two possibilities...
Meanwhile Engineers responsible for leaving invitations, having not received word that the plan had changed (genetic material was to be taken not requested) arrived on earth and pointed the people of Hawaii to LV-223, unaware it was now a base...
or...
The message was handed down through the generations and it wasn't until 600ad that someone thought to write it on a wall...
spektacooler
MemberOvomorphJun-22-2012 4:42 PM@ snorkel
re: the long list of coincidences. i think all of these coincidences have explanations that can be found in the threads that talk about plot holes.
btw, an off topic question - about your status as "staff." i'm curious - are you guys just a bunch of enthusiasts, or are you are backed by a company? do you guys get ad revenues for this website? it seems like other staff member have their own theories about prometheus...
Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJun-22-2012 5:01 PMNah, way too many coincidences IMO, from what I've read most of these so called "plot holes" can be explained with a simple dose of logic, deduction and common sense... people see what they wanna see...
Many expected Prometheus to answer all their lingering questions regards 1979's Alien, and/or expected it to be a prequel... it isn't. It's set in the same universe, before Alien but introduces us to the Engineers. That is all.
Regards the staff question, me and the other guys/gals of the staff are members that have been upgraded to moderators and site contributors through our devotion to the site, its community of members and the discussions. Yes we each have our own theories and ideas. Regards backing and ad revenues you'd have to ask Chris (admin), but no we don't get paid, we do this because of our love for this site and its community.
spektacooler
MemberOvomorphJun-22-2012 5:09 PM@ snorkel
my guess was that your explanation to the 600 ad visitation problem would also work for the good/bad engineer theory, and i think i was right. the second possibility that you mentioned (message handed down through generations) is consistent with the good/bad engineer theory.
(and re: persistence - this is my 16th post across all threads. you, on the other hand, have more than 2000. hands down you are way more persistent than me.)
Airacuda
MemberOvomorphJun-22-2012 5:15 PMOk I'm sure none of us has the correct answers to all the questions. There are some great ideas here. However if you can't see that they wanted the Xenomorph in the Alien series as a weapon..you may as well throw all common sense out the door.
Weapons are designed and built with an intended purpose. Handle,sights,barrel,trigger,a place for bullets...etc. Xenomorphs fit this exactly. I guess they just spent billions on a secluded space base and cloned Ripley/Alien, grew them and killed people just to advance medical science,to cure cancer.
Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJun-22-2012 5:16 PMPersistence, LOL... I've been here a LONG time bud.
You right both points could support your idea of two factions, but I don't see them being at war with one another... A species beset on destroying itself will inevitably destroy itself. The Engineers being around for billions of years suggests otherwise
spektacooler
MemberOvomorphJun-22-2012 5:19 PM@ snorkel - one last question. you say "Weyland technology almost mirrors that of the Engineers, in purpose at least." what do you mean? please explain. i felt the engineer's technology was very alien (e.g., the black goo, the spongy big buttons that you need to press to turn things on, the green lighting/arcs that come out of the buttons when activated, etc.).
Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJun-22-2012 5:24 PM@ airacuda...
Alien - they (W-Y) wanted it, didn't say why
Aliens - Burke suggested it would be worth millions to the bio-weapons division, but did not state explicitly that was why he wanted it, he just wanted to make some money of 'em.
Alien 3 - only mention was in Assembly Cut, taken from what Burke had said in Aliens. Also Bishop II stated it was important, but didn't state why.
Alien Rez - they mentioned Alloys, medical cures and urban pacification, never weapon.
As a weapon it would be effective, but it's too obvious.
Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJun-22-2012 5:27 PM@ spektacooler...
Atmosphere processors
Terraforming
FTL Travel
David
Hypersleep
All developed by Weyland Corporation from 2023-2093, that's a lot of damn advanced new tech for one company in 70 years.
spektacooler
MemberOvomorphJun-22-2012 5:37 PM@ snorkel
ah, i see the similarity now. you have to consider the info from the website, not just the movie. yes, that does seem a lot of advanced tech. in the space of 70 years.
but then again, it seems weird that weyland knew all this stuff about the engineers but didn't know that humans were like "maize" in the grand scheme of things, and that going to an engineer and asking for eternal life would be certain death. may be we're just over analyzing this thing. i guess, regardless of how many good writers you hire, and how much money you throw at it, the plot will never be completely airtight.
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