State of the canon:

Prometheus

Covenant

Alien

Alien Isolation

Defiance

Out Of The Shadows

Aliens

River of Pain

Fire & Stone (Aliens)

Alien3

Fire & Stone (Prometheus, AvP, Predator, Omega)

Life & Death

Alien Resurrection

Weyland-Yutani Report

Sea of Sorrows

The Rage War

@ S.M.

Surely if, as you state, Fire and Stone are canon to the Alien universe then by extension so too would be the three Predator movies and the two AVP movies, seeing as they too feature the Predator creature. But didn't Ridley retcon AVP's Charles Bishop Weyland out of the continuity with having Peter Weyland found Weyland Industries. Thus anything that attempts to include Predators in the same universe would not be canon, yes?

The fact that the comic books have to be retconned every time a new movie comes out would surely negate their inclusion as canon.

If the W-Y report is considered canon why not is the Colonial Marines Technical Manual.

Surely when it comes down to the bare bones of it all the only true canon is just the movies - Prometheus, Alien Covenant, Alien, Aliens, Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection?

Originally posted by genjitsu17:

...I dunno, just seems stupid to also have 2 simultaneous ancient alien stories going on. Having the Engineers and the Predators both visiting humans would have caused some trouble, i think. Just my opinion.

This. That's pretty much what I thought when I rewatched AVP a couple months ago. I think that's enough to establish AVP as non-canon.

"Surely if, as you state, Fire and Stone are canon to the Alien universe then by extension so too would be the three Predator movies and the two AVP movies, seeing as they too feature the Predator creature. But didn't Ridley retcon AVP's Charles Bishop Weyland out of the continuity with having Peter Weyland found Weyland Industries. Thus anything that attempts to include Predators in the same universe would not be canon, yes?"

Not sure of the canonicity of the AvP films (and Predator) at this point.

"The fact that the comic books have to be retconned every time a new movie comes out would surely negate their inclusion as canon."

The current comics and novels have tried as much as possible not to tread on things covered by Covenant, so as to not create a situation where they'll need to be retconned.  That said, things touted as canon can always be untouted (like Colonial Marines).

"If the W-Y report is considered canon why not is the Colonial Marines Technical Manual."

Not sure.  Possibly because a lot of the events detailed in the final chapter are apocryphal.  Most of the technical data in the CMTM remains canon however.

woody599 ere,

hmm its exciting times!

woody599

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Y_Tjohrfo&t=59s

Good video! I recommend! Top 10 Alien Movie moments!

The only films I personally consider canon are: Prometheus-Covenant-Alien-Aliens, the rest are stand-alone fanfic efforts as far as I'm concerned, especially all the garbage Predator/AvP tie in stuff (though the comics aren't bad).

In place of all that, I consider the first Dark Horse Aliens series/Steve Perry's "Earth Hive", "Nightmare Asylum" and "Female War" to be the true conclusion of the Ripley/Newt (Billie)/Hix (Wilks) story, because they are actually really good - unlike the abominations that are Alien 3 & 4.

@Long-Live-newt: Agreed. I chalk it up to closely-guarded W-Y/state secrets involving controversial experimentation involving MK-Ultra-esq technology (but on steroids).

 I wonder what Paul Anderson say about Prometheus?

since I know there is a way could play blue ray on PC, I just want to have a try.

prometheus is a important  movie .he tell us about the origins of the aliens franchise.thus engineers who become evil and threaten humanity .we have to be aware from  alien civilisations that want to make a contact with  us... they are not all a friendly..