Oh boy, I sure Scott tries to keep the canon consistent with his prequels

Great news. At least, a battle between neomorphs and a protomorph should had been in Alien Covenant. The neomorph is a magnificent creature and i hope we can see it again. I doubt it but we never know.

Great topic, @BigDave as usual.

Great news. At least, a battle between neomorphs and a protomorph should had been in Alien Covenant. The neomorph is a magnificent creature and i hope we can see it again. I doubt it, but we never know.

Great topic, @BigDave as usual.

Here's a good link with the interview of the FX Chairman John Landgraf.

https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/noah-hawley-alien-series-is-a-beast-more-tv-and-streaming-news/

“I think Noah’s very conscious of the fact that there’s a cinematic universe, if you will, and that while it has some flexibility that the aesthetic that was established by Ridley Scott and I think continued by James Cameron is a part of that universe. By the way, Scott Free and Ridley are involved in this, very involved in this as producers,” Landgraf said. “So while I think you’ll see some inventiveness and some originality that is uniquely Noah, I also think that this show will feel like a part of the cinematic universe that you’re familiar with in terms of Alien.”

“What I can say is that — maybe pun intended — it’s a beast, Alien. It’s a really big world-building exercise,” Landgraf said.

“We’re well into it. We’re actually moving apace. I have optimism, for example, that that show may well roll out in 2023; probably will roll out in 2023,” he continued. “But we want to get it right … you’re being given access to a really precious resource when you’re granted access to such an important piece of IP. And it’s not something FX does a lot of. So … there’s not another really key piece of Fox or Disney IP that we’re working on right now. There are other things like Shogun, which might be familiar to you. But all I can tell you is that, Noah feels this way, I feel this way, Ridley and his people feel this way: We’ve got to get this one right, and we’re going to take whatever time it takes to do that.”

Well we know that Ridley Scott is VERY PROUD of his Prequels (seems he was NOT that Pleased with Alien Covenant as far as the Xenomorph) as just Prior to its Release he was like "they want Aliens, ill give them F£*£$ Aliens" but then after the Disappointment of Alien Covenant he had said that he FELT he was ahead of the Game with Prometheus.

This tells me he was Proud of the A.I Elements and Creation Elements, and it seemed he saw those and the Engineers and other things as more IMPORTANT than the Beast (Xenomorph) if you would.... but he had said about the Xenomorph that the Franchise was about HIM but you have to Evolve HIM and offer Different ways to Procreate.

The TV Series will likely touch upon other Aspects of ALIEN but it will Eventually come down to the Xenomorph, and so with Ridley Scott being VERY Involved you would have to think he would WANT to Protect some of the Ideas he had.

And so we have to WONDER if the TV Show would in NO-WAY go and Contradict his Prequels.....

We did here Noah say about the TV Show is based in the NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE!

That was always a Puzzle.... and Concern..... because well 2120 is NOT what i Call in the Not Too Distant Future, for me that Suggests like 25 Years, it would be SILLY to be LESS... as well HOW MUCH kind of Space Exploration is there going to be in 2030, 2040 etc.... so i assumed we would be set in 50 Years Time in the Year say 2072 maybe?  And so thats 50 Years before ALIEN.

But then its seems its going to have Xenomorphs getting LOOSE/OUT OF CONTROL and Right Here on Earth..... and so 50 Years before ALIEN?  Hey any Time before 2180 would Conflict the Franchise....

However like i said.... I am sure Ridley Scott would want to PROTECT his Prequels and ALIEN.

Maybe the SHOW goes on to Begin in the NOT TO DISTANT FUTURE.... they had said it would Deal with Future Threat in A.I but then also a Ancient Threat would arise.

We will NOT be thrown into the Deep End with Xenomorphs it seems they will Gradually come into Play, and so we are on a Slower Build Up.... and so... MAYBE we have some Back Ground a Few Episodes that are SET in the NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE... then we Flash Forwards to a more Future Time?

And with Ridley Scott as Producer and likely would NOT want this to Conflict his Prequels then is the Scheduled 2023 Release Date a Coincidence?

Maybe we will get the TED TALK 2023 as the Opening Prologue?

Then we arrive at 20 or 25 Years Latter?

Guy Pearce in the ALIEN Time Line would be able to Play a Peter Weyland with no trying to make him LOOK any Younger or Older... and so he could Play Mr Weyland say like 2040-2050, this would be the Great Dawn of World Building and A.I within the Context to the Franchise.

Guy Pearce would likely NOT have a Busy Schedule, and he would NOT cost a KINGS RANSOM... and so he could make Various Cameo Appearances.

A Fassbender would be a Different Story but you could use UNUSED Footage, or Create a Look-a-like Doll so you Show a David being worked on.... but then we are taken to other Androids...

As well what are the Chances the David Technology only comes in David Likeness?

Thats NOT to say that any of this will Happen though....just with RS being Involved i would NOT go and RULE it out.

I pretty much enjoy anything with the Alien name slapped onto it so I'm sure I will love the TV series. Besides any Alien movie (good or bad) is better than no Alien movie.

This is great news!

I'm now actually looking forward to this. Hope the music is good.

I think, besides the important return of the Xenomorph to a screen, they could respond to some questions of the prequel Alien Covenant, like, for instance, what happened to David and the 2000 colonists aboard the Covenant Ship? They can make a puzzling timeline, with flasbacks and...flashforwards. That would be great. If they want to make a traditional timeline, why not make time travel possible with engineer technology, but a time travel limited to a few decades or so. That would be insane. 

My story would be simple. The engineers kill David and all his colonist horror experiments, the company retrieves all the eggs left by David on Planet 4 and brings them back to earth (maybe we can watch again on screen the neomorphs). They start doing experiments on the eggs and something goes horribly wrong (they unleash the Xenomorphs, firstly in an Alien Resurrection style and then in the outside world). The company stablishes contact with the engineers and they make the company aware of the existence of a lost eggs cargo on LV-426 planet (and this is the connection to the ALIEN 1979 film). Yes, Engineers have in the past already created Xenomorphs, that are not creations from the get-go, because the black goo is the result of a process of re-engineered micro-organisms existent on innumerous planets visited by the gardeners of the Universe (it's like  improve or change something that already exists). The  company has a second shot to harness the BEAST.

Weyland-Yutani: Corporate Timeline:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLeF6EqulUI

May 14th, 2039 - Discovery of the planet Acheron LV-426 (Peter Weyland has 48 years old).

"what happened to David and the 2000 colonists aboard the Covenant Ship? They can make a puzzling timeline"

I think it depends on WHEN the TV Series is SET, it was Indicated it would be SET on Earth and in the Near Future and to me this means before ALIEN in the Year 2122 and when they say the Not Too Distant Future to me that seems more like 25-50 Years.

I was Very Concerned with that Detail (if it is as such) because it would CONFLICT with the Franchise and Prequels.  Even as far as World Building, i dont think we would be TOO ADVANCED as far as Near the Technology we see in Alien Covenant in say the Year 2050, i would ASSUME that Weyland Industries would begin World Building and Mining mainly around say 2070 Mark (i just cant see before say 2050 that Humans would be Traveling like 10+ Light Years away).

so the Closer to Present Time Line (2021) then the likely-hood that the Adventure/Exploration and Discovery of a Xenomorph Threat would be CLOSER to Home than LV-426.... it even seems the THREAT would actually come down to seeing Xenomorphs get LOOSE on Earth.

And so it would NOT go and Connect to the Prequels if its SET before them, UNLESS we do introduce TIME-TRAVEL but i dont think that would be a Good Idea as well it can lead to MESS as Disney can then have a LAZY PLOT DEVICE to give us Constant Changes.

This is UNLESS the TV Series is Based on a Series of Time-Jumps...

EP1-2 Set in say 2025, EP 3-4 Set in say 2050, then EP5+ Jumps us to say 2125 but then having Xenomorphs known and on Earth before 2179 would Contradict the Movie ALIENS...

So for me any TV Show that will touch on the Xenomorph and on Earth before 2180 does not make SENSE and could be a RISK.

"May 14th, 2039 - Discovery of the planet Acheron LV-426 (Peter Weyland has 48 years old)"

Indeed however, i think with Alien Covenant they had Retconned some the History of Weyland Industries hence WHY that site was taken down.  But the ALIEN Franchise has more to it than Xenomorphs.... and so with Guy Pearce being 53 he could Play in Cameo a Peter Weyland aged between say 48-58 and so Indeed be SET say between 2040-2050, it depends on HOW MUCH the Series will be about the Xenomorph it seems the IDEA is the Xenomorph will return at a LATTER POINT and then WHEN does it appear in the Time-Line.

As long as he won't be able to affect the story, we'll be fine, but I worry that he's in it to save the David-wanking in the prequels. Sometimes it can be good if someone oversees it but if Scott will do it as an ego-thing to save the David-story it will be bad, it depends on why he's involved in it.

“or maybe it will IMPLY the Xenomorph as Ancient?"

I hope so, connected to something that could be evil, necessary to keep some balance in the universe, depending on how you look at it. At least try to keep the origins of it as something that started many (thousands? Millions?) years ago.

“Ridley Scott seemed to be more a FAN of the Engineers and their Creation Plot and about A.I in which David was a IMPORTANT Part of his Prequels.”

That's difficult to say, he changes his mind so often. First he seems interested in the Engineers, then it's David but has he shown more interest towards the Engineers again? He's flip-flopping a lot, so I'm not sure if I trust him when it comes to the alien-franchise.

There are so many possibilities of what could be, so they should let Scott talk a bit about it. Unfortunately, he isn't very good at explaining what he means. What I'm afraid of is that if he would be involved in another Alien-movie it would be the same kind of disappointment as the prequels have been this far with Scott throwing out crappy ideas. Disney can screw things up, just look at how Star Wars 7, 8, and 9 were. What I'm saying is that it's not only Scott that's making a mess at times. I'm more worried than happy about his involvement in this.

Disney admitted they didn't have a plan when they acquired Star Wars, their lack of respect of the property only worries me about the alien and predator series

"Unfortunately, he isn't very good at explaining what he means"

I think a LOT of people can Influence the Story, it seems RS would be more a YES MAN to a Degree just be Part of it.... I get the Impression that the Direction of Alien Covenant is something that HE was NOT a Fan of.  The Flip Side of that is he seems to think the Importance is NOT the Xenomorph, and so having him Involved could mean we see the Weyland Company and A.I being involved a LOT more than the Xenomorph, also be a Question of would there be any kind of Engineer Connection?

To me i am Concerned about the TIME-LINE as anything before 2120 could Mess with the Prequels, having Xenomorphs on Earth before say 2180 would Mess with ALIENS too.

It seems the Writers etc are going to Re-Invent the Alien Story to a Degree and RS is there to make sure that THIS does-not either Conflict his Movies or that it does-not go and STEER to FAR from what the Xenomorph of the Franchise was/is.

The Main Emphasis seems it will Cover the Major Corporations like maybe Weyland and go on to SHOW that they would DO whatever they NEED to Gain whatever they Want and will TAKE ADVANTAGE of People and Exploit those who are NOT WELL OFF who are looking for Opportunity but will be GETTING themselves into something they have NO IDEA about.

But the CORP will know Exactly what they are getting the Expendable People into.

It also seems that the Threat that A.I Poses will be a Part of the TV Show, as FAR as a Future Threat... but then Towards the END we will Uncover a more Dangerous and Ancient Threat.

We know and see SO LITTLE about the TV Series all we can make out is that we will see the Traditional Face Hugger, but the Xenomorph seems similar to Alien Covenant as in the Gestation Stage of it. (more like AC than Alien).  And that we will also come ACROSS a Engineer Ship/Complex that is somewhat Submerged.

This could be a Sunken Engineer Ship............... but then HOW is the Xenomorph similar to AC?    I HOPE we wont go the Route of..... TIME TRAVEL!

"Disney admitted they didn't have a plan when they acquired Star Wars"

To be Fair.... i dont think it was that BAD... the Prequels were NOT that Great Either i do think that The Last Jedi was BAD... but then Phantom Menace was BAD too.... Rogue One was Good and the The Mandalorian too.

The Problem is the Pickle that the Prequels got us into Especially with Alien Covenant, do you IGNORE it, do you Reboot what it showed? (by doing something that could Contradict them).  The Biggest Concern for me is the TIME-LINE and HOW do they NOT have this Conflict or Contradict the WHOLE FRANCHISE?

BD

"The Flip Side of that is he seems to think the Importance is NOT the Xenomorph, and so having him Involved could mean we see the Weyland Company and A.I being involved a LOT more than the Xenomorph"

Not sure if I trust that, he mostly seems to be into androids (Covenant and Raised By Wolves) and I don't like any of them that much. If he would be involved we would see more of AI/androids, and I don't want that, at least not as the main-focus, they could be used by corporations but not be what it's about. Does he care about the Engineers? The Engineers should be brought back because I think they are needed to expand it.

"Conflict his Movies"

So it's an ego-thing? I don't trust Scott that much by now after the prequels. They should give someone else a try. Unfortunately it seems to me that he is more of a burden at this point but everything that is bad about the prequels isn't his fault.

"And that we will also come ACROSS a Engineer Ship/Complex that is somewhat Submerged."

What about a pyramid or a strange building in general? We have already seen derelicts/ empty space-ships. I would like them to try new things as long as it has a good design and makes sense to the story then why not? Don't do a lot of re-makes even if it's just parts in the story. Do new things tweak them and see how they can fit into the alien-universe, even O'Bannon and Giger started somewhere.

Time-travel is too obvious, they should do something new. There are other things that they can do to explain it, they just got to figure out smart and interesting things and not just run with what ever their first idea is that pops up in their heads.

"The Biggest Concern for me is the TIME-LINE and HOW do they NOT have this Conflict or Contradict the WHOLE FRANCHISE?"

Throw the prequels away and pretend that they never happened? I would rather see that than to continue what Covenant started.

"Does he care about the Engineers?"

I think he does..... the Question is would they be LINKED or make a Appearance in the TV Series?  This could be a RISK but so the same can be said about THE PLOT in General if we are going to have it SET on Earth in a Time-Line prior to say 2090

"What about a pyramid or a strange building in general? We have already seen derelicts/ empty space-ships"

With a NOT TO DISTANT FUTURE setting they its UNLIKELY it will be the Same kind of Plot of say ALIEN it could be the Xenomorph Threat could be Unearthed on Earth.... YEAH AVP again ;)

The Above is LIKELY were our Xenomorph Threat will come from..... It has that Engineer Aesthetic to it.... so its either the Inside of a Ship or a Complex... maybe it could be a Pyramid etc?

It could be Likely this is on EARTH and so its a Question of WHEN/HOW?

It looks Submerged to a Degree so i think its a Sunken Ship or Sunken Outpost.

There really is NOT a LOT that we know at the Moment.... just it seems the TV Series will touch upon the Tech Giants and Corps and how they USE others to GET what they Want...... and so we will see People from more Common or Poor Backgrounds think they are getting a OPPORTUNITY but they are going to be Merely Pawns..... so it will show Cases of the Worst of Humanity but then we will see maybe the Best of Humanity too.

It does seem it will Address A.I as a Threat.... but the we will see a Ancient Threat come into PLAY (Xenomorph?  maybe Engineers?).   But depending on the Time-Line i think this either will REBOOT or NOT be Canon (Alternative Canon) or i CANT THINK of HOW it WONT go and Conflict the Franchise.

At the Moment i am a Little Concerned.