Theory: Weyland-Yutani are run by Robots, Synthetics pursuing the Xenomorph for means of evolution!

" but that the ships did the eggs without some sort of organic influence feels too strange for me"

Yeah this idea was Gigers, but i think its actually the best one of the lot, its very very Alien and Horrific and a way to make it truly terrifying would be if this Process needs some kind of input.

what if Genetic Material is needed to perform this task, like it seems the Xenomorph MORB needed Genetic Material to Egg Morph Brett, what if the Ships or some other Giger Bio-Mechanical Device needed similar Genetic input and then this Machine/Ship can then create smaller Eggs.

If we look at the Engineer Sacrifice, where his Genetic Material is dissolved to create something new... compared to what if like Humans they cant just mate to procreate..   What if Genetic Material of a Host is then put into a Hopper or connected to the Machine/Ship and its sucked out of it... like how in the Matrix we see the Humans are kept in Pods where our Essence and Fluid are used as Fuel for the Machines..

What if we took a more Horrific version of that where instead of Fuel for Machines, we are seeing Genetic Material sucked into a Machine/Ship etc that then uses this Material to then Produce Eggs as a End Product.

Looking at Gigers Comments and ideas and his various Art Work i think this would be the truly most Horrific and Alien way that the Xeno Eggs came to be.

When i think of such a thing.... some of the Sources comments and concept they saw, and the Matrix link which they wont go into detail with could indeed fit such a Scenario..

Engineer Egg Production stopped because it needed Genetic Material and this is where Shaws Fate lies.

oh boy i hope so.... i think they need to base any idea for the Xeno Origins on Gigers Twisted Work and Ideas. This is what made Alien Franchise truly Alien as it was.

"maybe the MORBS are really a structure building race and the Engineers use them to build massive fleets of Star Ships or Temples though out the galaxy?"

Gigers unused Mural for Alien...

The Derelict looking device at the top, was created prior to the Derelict Final design and the Space Jockeys also designed like this prior to the Final design.

This fits very much with Gigers comments that the Silo Walls with like Pregnant Bellies would make the Eggs... This Mural shows or tried to that there is a Genetic Connection between the Xenomorph and Derelict Ship.

Now i take you to Fire and Stone Comics.. SPOILERS..

Elden a Android is infected with the Goo, and he becomes something else and at the end SPOILER Elden becomes part of the Cave, the Mountain/Cave has actually came Alive its part living and it absorbs Elden but its by his own Choice. (Sacrifice)

So what if as your comment kind of suggests.... that the Xenomorph in the end Morphs with something to then Grow and Evolve into the Derelict/Juggernaughts?

Big Dave: It is really an interesting idea for a movie but maybe I am too much of a natural science geek or try too much rational thinking for me to like that idea. As far as a strange movie sure but even an Alien movie needs a bit of logical explanation for example it is totally possible that we can find an animal and try to use it for biological warfare how ever for a machine to produce eggs as a gift that it has itself seems a bit far fetched.

Yes maybe you can put genetic material and make something new of it like in a lab but you need someone to put it there also so in this case with the Derelict who put it there? I could buy that explanation if someone put it there first and pushed the on-button so to speak but for the ship to get the material from nowhere and that it did it itself seems weird to me but I like many of Giger’s ideas.

There's only one thing I can think of to add to what has already been posted above by our Learned Alien Brethren.

The Synthetics being in charge could be what was behind the smug comment Ash makes to Ripley: "There is an explanation for this you know."

That phrase could be a real clue!

Yes Gigers idea was really Alien and maybe it could work as far as it needs Biological Material and so it cant just produce Eggs from out of thin air..

But when we are talking a Machine we are talking Bio-Mechanical.... like the Xenomorph, because we could suggest that its silly how the MORB reproduces be it Egg Morph or Queen if it is part Machine.. but we accept the Xeno can.... so maybe its a case of not looking at Machine in the traditional sense.

This is Sci-Fi and anything can go, and to a degree how plausible is it that Davids Synthetic DNA plays a part in the Xeno Evolution when he is not Organic.  But the Technology, Knowledge and Tools of the Engineers could make him something more than just Synthetic.

I am not sure what way we shall see things develop but i am hopping their is not Magical Divine being as in the God of the Bible...  and i hope for something Sinister and i do think Giger's work can give us a great inspiration for something horrific as far as the whole of creation.

there has always been the possibility that the company itself is run by the very machines they built, similar to Matrix and perhaps even Blade Runner, questioning the unanswered question if Tyrell has an android of himself stored away. The same can go to any story where artificial life is involved. Especially since the daughter and peter weyland died on the Prometheus trip, either sponsors or certain staff could do the job, unknown child but most likely is that one of his androids would run the show. The merging of Yutani and Weyland has not been answered either, so there is a lot to debate about. Most interesting point is how the robots developed further in the tale coming from David 8 to now Walter, later on Ash, Bishop and Call. There would be no emotions involved in how they proceed to accumulate everything around them as they see fit. As David said in the viral video, he does not feel human emotions but understands them. :-) the deeper you go, the more you hit the ghost in the machine.

The white rabbit you are hunting, all comes to great writers and ideas (Ghost in the Machine, Do androids dream of electronic sheep, I Robot, R.U.R.).

I would love if they would truly hit the nature of the Aliens, the AI´s and their creators, epic stuff.

These are all good thoughts and ideas. It would be good to see if some of them play out on screen.

Nice to see a Spam post... Bumps this thread ;)

And so MJD nice to see your views on the subject and you hit some interesting points as the OT by Chris does.

"What if the Xenomorph holds the key to accelerating their own evolution? Unbinding them from the shackles of their programming and becoming higher beings themselves? "

I am not sure if i covered this on this Topic?

But i had a source from February 2015 who referred to Paradise Lost in that as far as some Fallen Angels being punished and turned into Serpents allowed the Fallen Angels to be free from Bondage and this applies to the Prometheus 2 draft too.

They also said (as i posted a long time ago) that the Plot was more closer to the Matrix with bit of Bladerunner too.

And so indeed MJD your comments are indeed interesting and who knows, only time will tell.

Wow! Excellent reads in this thread.

Hell, even Jones the cat is synthetic lol!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdPJM9CF_iQ

Great post, Chris!  Whether they will go this route is debatable but to my mind this is the only route that can make sense and tie everything together.

From Alien onwards there has always been an unseen threat from the company and the idea that someone somewhere knows a lot more than everyone else.

It makes sense that only a machine would pursue the Xeno, knowing what we know about it.  Any sane human would not - even a power-hungry, megalomaniac tyrant!

Knowing what we know of David even prior to AC I think we could assume that they have the ability and will (if 'unplugged' as it were) to do what you suggest.

iv heard this theory quite often over the years and def think its very plausible considering the continued lack of regard for human life when the company tries to get theyr hands on such an aggressive species. im 50/50 on this though as what would be more frightening? the idea of a company run by synthetics who have absolutely no regard for humans or a company run by humans who put profit and theyr own desire for biological and technological advances about the wellbeing of the rest of mankind? that even humans would go so far as to endanger theyr own species for power and profit. I don't think this theory was intended by either scott or Cameron though. ash followed his orders to the letter by letting kane back onboard and bishop did the same but he definitely seemed to be following his programming to protect humans which im sure wouldn't have been the case had the company been run by synthetics.

ali81: "that even humans would go so far as to endanger theyr own species for power and profit"

You don't follow US politics much then...

Indeed.  Humanity has been screwing over humanity since time immemorial.