Why Prometheus was an Epic Fail-My thoughts on where Prometheus went wrong

Some More Food for Thought to Chew On.

Vanya, sorry I wasn't actually sure from your reply that you were aware of Moebius work on Alien, "the Spacesuits were inspired by drawings Moebius made for Heavy Metal magazine". But I missed the fact you then state "His designs were used for the suits in the first film". My bad. But one thing I have to say is really annoying me about posting on this site is: 

WARNING: OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE AHEAD. KIDS COVER YER EYES

All the bloody advertising! As I hadn't checked this site out in over 12 months, due to being too fuckin' exhausted at night after doing the hard slog 10 - 12 hours a day (if you're ever thinking about a career change and your're the type of person who doesn't react well to stress, don't go into catering) but as I am between jobs and actually have the time to get online again I thought why not, I'll join up and add my two cents worth into the mix, give me something to keep my brain occupied and stimulated. I wasn't prepared for the increase in fucking advertising on the site, I don't recall it being this obtrusive before and I gotta say: it's driving me BATSHIT FUCKING CRAZY! 

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Right, now I've got that out of my system, I just want to ask does anyone else experience the difficulties with posting that I am experiencing? The pop up ads that constantly bombard you when you are trying to read a reply, If you try and close them that just takes you to their page, the page is constantly jumpiong up and down randomly, and doing a simple thing like trying to post becomes a real chore, you miss bits of information ijn the replies, miss seeing some replies, and trying to read a post or reply can be a nightmare and a headache and a major stress, I really don't know if I can keep posting as this was meant to be a way to shut out the bullshit and stress of modern living, and here it is right in your face yet again. 

I choose not to deal with advertising in my life as best as I can. I try and avoid commercial TV or channel surf when ads come on if there is a show or documentary on I wanta see. Advertising is aimed at brain dead idiots who need to be told what to think and what they need to make their lives better, and what really piisses me off about it the most is: advertising is ruining some very good music. For the sake of selling you headache meds or botox enemas or mega caffeine bloody energy drinks! (Fry: "I used to drink 20 cans a day right up until my third heart attack"). I have heard some classic Rock and Roll, Folk and Hip Hop songs used to sell all sorts of rubbish, for fucks sake they even once used a Dead Kennedys song (Holiday in Cambodia) to sell Levi's jeans (still scratching my head over that one), I've also heard them rape Creedence, Bob Dylan, and many, many others, I used to despise some of these artists for selling out their art for such trash when I was younger, but have come to realise that most of 'em don't actually own their music or have any control over how it is used, record companies in the 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's were all FASCIST BASTARDS  What is tragic about this is a whole generation of kids (some of whom might actually like some of this music, not all young people have shite taste) are only going to know this music and associate it with some product or other and that might not inspire that small percentage of kids that would have gone on to: picking up a microphone, or a guitar or a pair of drumsticks, and that is just a damn shame. One Direction, Miley frickin' Virus and Justin Bieber will inherit the Earth, pass the vomit bag please. New idea for Crossover Franchise: Alien Vs Cyrus. 

Anyway I'm starting to rant again so Back On Mission.

On The Plot Holes in Alien.

Why didn't they just X-Ray Kane?

Ash does actually X-Ray Kane. In the scene where Ripley goes to the Med Bay to confront Ash about letting them back in the ship, Ash is actually studying the embryo inside Kane, when Ripley comes in he switches off the monitor. She isn't aware of what she's seen, as she asks Ash "What is it?"

Why do they let Kane out of the Med Bay and have a meal with them when he has just had an alien parasite on his face? 

Well I figure these people are truckers not scientists, so they probably wouldn't think about it that much, and Ash knows vaguely what will transpire, but I figured that the company were only peripherally aware of the Alien and he is probably not sure exactly what will happen or when. He is surprised at how quickly it all happens, check out how he reacts when he realises what's happening ("oh shit, it's happeneing now") he even mutters "shit" under his breath, definately a surprised reaction.

Why don't they freeze him until they get back to Earth?

I believe that this would have been Ash's intention all along, they were going back into Hypersleep after dinner. As a robot programmed by the company surely they wouldn't have just let him use the Nostromo as a weapons testing lab, they are after all towing a refinery processing millions of tons of ore that represents multi billions of dollars worth of profit to the company and I can't believe that Weyland Yutani would throw that away unnecesarily, especially if they are not 100 percent certain exactly what will happen to Kane. As above I think Ash is caught unprepared by the speed of the embryo's birth. The crew are expendable to the corporation, but the cargo sure as hell wouldn't be.

Why did they split up when searching for the Alien?

Well from the crew's perspective all they think they are looking for is a creature the size of a snake, it's obvious they expect nothing like the full grown adult, they even mistake the cat for the Alien. On seeing Brett taken by the mature creature, Parker says in a state of shock "The son of a bitch was huge, it was the size of a man" again I don't think that even Ash was aware of how the creature could grow so large so rapidly, and from this point on has to handle the situation as best as possible, and he wouldn't have told the crew even if he knew or suspected.

On why the Egg Chamber appears to be much larger than the Derelict.

To tell the truth I was so caught up in the visual spectacle when you see the Egg Chamber revelead in all it's Gigeresque glory, in the wide shot, that I never really noticed or gave it any thought. On quick inspection of the scene, I agree it does look much larger than the Derelict, but if you look closely the chamber does sorta curve off in the distance, seeming to follow the contours of the ship. Doctor Who? maybe the Space jockeys have some sort of Spatial Dimension buggering technology and use this on their cargo holds to increase the load capacity of their ships. Or it could well be that the ship is docked on a storage facility (though I'm going to discount this for reasons I will explain shortly). I don't consider this a plot hole as such, but more a part of the mystery behind the Sapce Jockey race, Ridley Scott has always maintained that it was a weapons carrier carrying the eggs, he seems to think it was in the ship. Thanks for pointing it out as it is something I never really noticed. So in my opinion, none of these really count as plot holes, and I feel all of them are adressed in the film (except the Egg Chamber size thing). I feel insulted when films blatantly spell out these things for you, It's much better when they infer bits of info with little hints in actor's performances (watch Ian Holm closely in the Chestburster scene) or lines, little subtle hints from the director etc Just my opinion I know, not everyone will agree and thank the Great Spaghetti Monster in the sky for that.

On The issue of Human Space Jockeys.

Yeah I know Giger depicted humanoids in his mural for the pyramid in Alien, but his humanoids were clearly not human.  The Promethean engineers were just tall, white, Schwarzenegger clones with black eyes. If they had stuck more closely to Giger's original design they wouild have been a lot more suited to the Alien univerese, instead I could only think "where's the Gym located on the Juggernaut? do engineers have body building competions? maybe their demise was due to rampant steroid abuse" to me they were laughable. Also if it's not used in the film, it's not part of the canon. Ridley Scott had the Idea to end the 1st film thus: The Alien tears off Ripley's head, and sends a message back to Earth imitating her voice??? Sure glad cooler heads prevailed over that one, or the Idea they had that: The Alien only kills whilst immature and once it reaches full maturity it settles down to a life of learning, art and literature??? these Ideas would have robbed the creature of it's power as an almost indestructible force of nature, and goes to illustrate that 1. Don't let Ridley Scott try and come up with story Ideas coz they suck and will ruin the movie, and  2. If it aint on the screen, it aint necessarily so. On my first viewing of Alien and subsequently I never thought of The Space Jockey as anything but an "Alien life form, looks like it's been dead a long time". Every Alien fan I know hates Prometheus for this.

On Dodgy Science/Plot Holes/Logic Malfunctions in Science Fiction Films.

Yes Gravity didn't spend much thought on scientific accuracy, and Interstellar definately had some plot malfunctions concerning science and logic e.g. Planets Orbitng Black Holes : I thought that a Black Hole's gravity was so strong that nothing, including light, can escape it (they destroy stars), so by rights those planets should have been torn to shreds and sucked in. In Sunshine, the Crispy Critter bad guy ending: if a human is that badly burnt and survives that long without medical assistance (impossible), he probably aint gonna be up to running around trying to kill the protagonists (I thought that this just went too far and wrecked the movie totally). So for the sake of dramatic licence you have to accept the odd bit of dodgy science here or there, no SF film is ever 100 percent scientifically accurate, but as long as they try to get as much of it right as they can, you just gotta suspend your disbelief.

 Even Alien/Aliens had some plot holes in places e.g. In Alien: what happened to the xenomorph that hatched from the Space Jockey? The computer seems to decypher the signal very quickly? an Alien language/code that has no antecendents in any known human language? The franchise doesnt seem to acknowledge relativity (if they're traveling for years at light speed, wouldn't Ripleys daughter already be long dead before the events in Alien?) In Aliens Ripley: (I think) asks "how long once we're declared overdue can we expect a rescue?" Hicks: "17 days" Since it was established in Alien that LV 426 was 13 months travel time to Earth, and allowing for tecnological innovations in FTL space travel and Colonial expansion over 57 years, he didn't mean it would take a team 17 days to arrive from Earth, but obviously from a colony much closer to LV 426 (they wouldn't have been in Hypersleep if it was only 17 days to Earth). So, if they had people who could get there in 17 days at the start, would they not have sent them out to check on the colony when communications were lost, rather than waiting for a team from Earth to get there many months later? Yes, but dramatically they had to get Ripley back there (one way of adressing this in the script would have been for them to find an abandoned dropship when they land, no clues to what happened but establishes that the company DID send a team out as soon as they could. It's really not that hard to spot these problems in a script and come up with solutions to them). Also, how long is it before they are actually delared overdue? 17 days? 17 days + mission completion time + 17 days = 34 + for rescue, Hudson doesn't factor this in to the equation "17 days? we're not gonna last 17 hours..." but I suppose he's slightly stressed out so you can forgive him. Another small point about Aliens is, why do they deduce there is a Queen laying the eggs? In her interrogation in the boardroom at the beginning, Ripley states "Kane, the crewmember who went into the ship said he saw thousands of eggs" now the military would have been briefed on all Ripley's disclosures before the mission, so by rights they shouldn't even be wondering about the source of the eggs. They know that there is a bloody big ship out there with "thousands of eggs in it", why signpost the Queen's appearance? Why does it take Bishop 50 minutes to pilot the 2nd dropship from the Sulaco? "30 minutes to prep the ship and about 50 minutes flight time", on the 1st flight they got to the colony from orbit in about 5 minutes, Is Bishop a slow driver? These small points have always bugged me a bit, but it doesn't jar me that badly that it takes you out of the film, you just accept it and enjoy the movie. It's just when the science/plot is so dodgy as in Prometheus and other films, it makes you stop and go W.T.F.?  Even a film based on historical fact such as Apollo 13 has to take some liberties with scientific accuracy for the sake of drama.

 Lastly, the major offender against any remotely accurate science has to be Star Trek: Aliens are just lumpy headed people who conveniently all speak English and all seem to have very similar societies based on ancient human cultures (Romulans = Romans, Klingons = Mongols, etc). The human race matures in the future and everybody is nice to each other (bullshit, greed and lust for power aint gonna go away in 200 years), Space travel in Star Trek is ludicrous: even when they are thousands of light years from Earth, as soon as the Borg or whoever turn up to assimilate it, it seems to take 'em about 10 minutes to get back to our solar system and join the fight and even though I am not a Physicist, it seems to me that a ship dropping out of warp speed suddenly would be a catastrophic event and the ship and crew would be toast, but they pull off this maneuver regularly. Beam Me up Scotty: would you really want to disassemble your body and transmit it's component atoms through Space? what about Cosmic Radiation? you would reassemble hideously mutated if you survived at all. The approach to Interstellar communication varies greatly in response to the needs of furthering the plot, it sometimes takes weeks to communicate with base and sometimes they can talk to Earh in real time. Humanoids are the dominant species in the Universe. So despite being a huge fan of the Original series re-runs when I was a kid, the later movies and shows didn't impress me at all, I suppose because by the age of 12 my interest in SF films and shows was maturing and I was Into stuff like Alien, Soylent Green, Aliens, Planet of the Apes, Logan's Run, The Omega Man, 1984, Mad Max, The Road Warrior, Blade Runner, The Thing, Rollerball, Silent Running, etc. and my interest in the kids stuff like Star Trek and Star Wars just dropped away, I have a slight nostalgic fondness for them but that's it.

On Gravity and Interstellar.

I didn't think Gravity was a Great movie, but it was OK, and when you keep seeing films that consistently let down your expectations I suppose you lower 'em a bit. After being totally unimpressed by: Alien 3, Alien 4, Avatar, The Matrix sequels, Lord of the Rings: Return of the King, Tron: Legacy, Judge Dredd (the Stallone piece of crap, not the new Karl Urban one which I was pleasantly surprised to find I liked, that's Dredd done right, new, more realistic version of Mega City One, which bothered me a bit before I saw the film, but now think was a good design choice. The Stallone one certainly looked the part and had all the right elements in place, Rico Dredd, Chief Judge Magruder, The Angel Gang, ABC Warrior, Judge Hershey, A good cast, well, apart from Sly and Rob Bloody Schneider, it had Ian Dury which was a brilliant bit of casting. But they got the character totally wrong and the story sucked). The Hobbit, Elysium, Oblivion (not A Tom Cruise fan but can stomach him in small doses, thought he was good in A Few Good Men and I liked The Last Samurai)  SPOILER ALERT If you liked Moon, haven't seen Oblivion and are thinking of watching it, DON"T BOTHER It's just a Mega budget rip-off of Moon, thousandses of Tom Cruises my precious. Sam Rockwell can act the arse off the Cruiser. Shit, sidetracked again.

 So Gravity not too bad, Sandra Bullock and all, I was entertained. Interstellar, a much better movie. A good attempt at making a 2001 for the 21st century. Far from perfect but entertaining as hell. Loved Matt Damon as the bad guy, cowardly scientist who fills the HAL role (I figured he was driven insane by his ordeal),  Hands up who else thought it  was gonna be one of the robots who sabotaged the mission, I think that was a good bit of misdirection on the part of the Nolan Brothers. I thought that's more like what a spacesuit should look like too, extrapolated from contemporary suit design.

The bonus features documentary was the Furious Gods, I didn't remember the title is all. this was better than the actual movie and did give an insight into Prometheus and what went wrong. I realise studio interference had a big part in it, you would think that a with a director of Scott's stature, that a studio would just leave him alone to get on with the job, yet no, according to Scott they still bug him mercilessly over evey little creative decision. I wish Hollywood studios would just leave the film making to the creative teams, and stick to what they do which is financing the bloody things. I suppose they feel they have a right to protect their investments, but most of the disappointing movies I mentioned earlier probably would have been much better without studio interference, and they end up screwing themselves over anyway when these movies don't do well financially. But Mr. Scott did make some rather poor creative choices with creature design (compared with the much better ones he chucked out) and script, so isn't entirely blameless. I understand why Guy Pearce was in Old man make up, I just didn't think it looked very convincing. You can see all sorts of horrific true life surgery on TV these days (maybe not self inflicted C- sections) on the hospital reality shows.

Finally, I am getting a bit Prometheused out. If I can overcome my difficulties with the site (I do need to upgrade my PC when I can afford to, and hopefully this will rectify the issues with the page jumping around on me, especially if there is some way to block the fucking advertising as this seems to be causing the issues, I need some technical assistance and a mate has said he will check it out for me) I am wondering about the rules for publishing fan fiction on the site?, as I decided to put my money where my mouth is and write a story that I would have liked Prometheus to be. I have had some ideas kicking around in my head for years, after being disappointed in the later Alien films, but could never get 'em down as I struggle with narrative prose. Recently I thought: Do it as a screenplay and It's been pouring out, much easier to write. I decided to meld my ideas with Prometheus and thought about a few questions:

1. How does the company know about the Alien?

2. How much do they know about the Alien?

3. How was the Nostromo re-routed to LV 426?

So, from there I have written the ending (A conversation between two Weyland - Yutani executives: Melkonis and Roby), and have written 50 pages, the first act. Would anyone be interested in reading this? This is why I have discounted the theory of the derelict being docked on a storage facility, as my take on it is, the derelict crashed there, and my story is set on LV 427 (that's about 1 LV away from LV 426 Mr. Lindelof) the Sapce Jockey's weapons facility a moon also orbiting the giant ringed planet.

Re: the pic at the bottom of the page (spacesuted figure, Shaw? standing in front of the Juggernaut). I assume this is photoshopped as I don't recall any scene in Prometheus looking that dark and foreboding, might not have been quite so disappointed if there had been, the movie was too bright and sunny. With the Furious Gods doco and info from your replies I at least now have an insight on Prometheus many problems, but the one question still remains: Ridley Scott, why did you announce you were making an ALIEN PREQUEL then not do it? Lack of confidence in his own abilities? I don't buy the excuse that Alien Vs Predator ruined the Alien, that's just a cop out, and he would have been aware of this before he made the announcement. That should have been a challenge. Maybe he's getting too old and is well past it and should retire before he buggers up Blade Runner as well. (Everyone's a replicant. The human race died off after the war mentioned in P.K. Dick's original story and the replicants recreated society in their creators image, then erased their memories and replaced them with artificial ones) actually, thinking about that it could make sense and would be a hell of a twist ending. Replicants build replicant slaves and then build replicant bounty hunters to exterminate them when they come to Earth, thinking they themselves are human. Ridley, call me and we'll do lunch. 

Also interested in discourse on Sci Fi and realated movies and literature in general, but I realise that this is not the focus of this site. I apologise again for my long, rambling discourses and tendency to go off mission, but I writes it as it comes out and if people don't wanta read it they won't. If you do cheers for your time and feedback, muchly appreciated. I hope I can overcome site difficulties as this has been mentally stimulating, and would like to continue with the fan fiction angle etc.

The Dead Kennedys/Giger connection.

Back in the late 80's, The Dead Kennedys released an album with a print of Giger's Penis Landscape as the insert poster. They were subsequently sued for distribution of pornography, but won the case when they proved that Giger's work is art not pornography. To me Giger's Art was definately "Punk Rock" compared with the mainstream art establishment, and I'm glad he was vindicated in the eyes of the law as being an artist not a pornographer. 

Hope I aint bored ya to death, Cheers.

LOL Ill get my Coat......... i bow to the New King ;)   Who can do even bigger posts than me lol, yours are easier to read because your grammar is better ;)

FIRST..

Pain in backside Adds and stuff, i never get any.... however this could because i use FIREFOX Browser and i have Add Block and No Script Add ons added to it, give them a try and a lot of anoyances would go away...  PS my PC is old too like 7 years odd Old..

Hope that helps ;)

SECOND...

Some very good points, i would have to try watch Gravity Again and be more open.. i only watched bits of it and lost interest but on that night i was not 100% in mood to sit down and concentrate on a movie...

As far as your explanations for Alien Plot holes, i think you are spot on with every one... Yes Ash would not have known that simply having a quick last meal would have led to the Chest Buster, i dont think Ash knew how long the Embryo would take to grow.

On The issue of Human Space Jockeys.

I am not sugesting the Space Jockeys was designed by Giger, just his Concept work showed Humanoids who was Bald, and whos Space Suits did not look like those from Earth.... 

By the time he did the Space Jockey it looked more Alien and at the time of Alien, regardless of if they saw it as a Space Suit or not by then, i dont think they thought it would be Human looking in a Suit...

I would say that when they was working on Prometheus such as Spaights draft they may have gone back through some of Gigers Concept work and thought... maybe we can base the Engineers on those drawings etc.

Each movie has a habit of borrowing stuff from Earlier movies unused concept work, or ideas and plot points.... Prometheus did kind of cover the Star Beast ideas that they had to drop in Alien  i.e Seperate Egg Chamber in a Temple, compared to Ship and a Ancient Race that was all but wiped out etc.

The also seem to borrow some of Gigers ideas as far as other works...... Gigers Dune Harkonnen Temple that was unused, the Engineers LV 223 Temple is surely based of this.

ALIEN PREQUEL...

When news was first leaked on them doing and working on such a movie, indeed the ideas back then was a Alien Prequel... (Spaights Draft) and Ridley then did say the movie started as a more traditional Prequel but Fox wanted to change the direction a bit and so this is when Lindeloff came in and things got changed some what..

And a lot for the better as far as ideas.... i.e LV 223 and not LV 426, and how the movie does not lead to the Space Jockey which in Alien looked like it had been there for hundreds if not thousands of years and not just decades...

Sadly the way some of his ideas was executed and also left to a well Ambigious as he calls it nature....

Yes I too am with you terrible plot holes messy muddled film but for me it did look amazing in parts some of the creatures were very good and over all the look of the film was perfect fine for me if it had been made well. This over all idea as well was a " bloody about time ! " I thought when it first got announced and I do still feel the other two parts could save it by explaining why they were acting all so dumb as educated scientists ok well maybe apart from millhouse and fifield they were at least portrayed as dumb from the start although they took the word dumb to a new level. I vote for mind control from a god like being possibly held prisoner or locked in a never ending battle with the elders and needing assistance :O . And so they were all being pushed into getting infected except for david and shaw the only two it needs blah blah... Ok well its a bit of a punt I know but that sort of shizzle...and yes the viral campaign was almost as messy as the film and is still incomplete today so much like the films plot its scary. Oh yer just remembered one bit that never got finished : http://www.projectprometheus.com/careers/ check david post - coming soon since before the film came out hmmm lol! And that site for the blu ray with the wrong videos on the wrong buttons....loved that happy birthday david though I think that single handedly boosted my expectations too far...sorry if I missed something u n dave do fill up the screen a bit and I only have a few minutes :P ... 

Who says Fifield was a scientist? I doubt VERY much he created the 'pups'....probably stole the tech or killed his smarter partner......or he was the janitor in the firm that created the PUP tech. and the bosses didn't want to spend 4 years of their life in cryo. so they taught him how to use the PUP's and sent him on his way. 

A 'Lost' style flashback of Fifield sticking a knife in his partners back and taking the tech, or a flashblack to Fifield hacking the pup tech from his firm( and blowing the building up to cover his tracks).

Not everyone wants lose 4 years of their life traveling in space....probably hard to get the right people. Millburn might have been the bottom of the barrel.

I always figured Fifield was a Yutani spy.

Yeah, I could see Fifield taking a little extra cash for keeping Yutani in the loop. Not so much an agent, but more a consultant.

*flashback* Yutani represenative slipping Fifield a envelope filled with cash and a special secure sub space radio.

Firstly thanks for the replies, I'll try and keep posts a bit more precise and focused.

First up a quick word on the issues with advertising, did a scan on PC and found some suspicious programs had been installed whilst online, removed these and the issues seemed to be resolved for about ten minutes. Then it all starts again, the Prometheus site is hijacked and clicking on the scroll bar, next page tab, discussuions and posts, trying to sign in etc. will keep taking me to advertising sites and crashing the page. I have to get some sorta add blocking software.

Naming the guilty. I know exactly where this sus software came from and it makes me sick. These people are maggots and I just think sometimes " Where's Rorschach when you need him?" he'd sort 'em out. Looking up a guitar tab site for a few songs, I was bombarded with pop up ads for hardcore pornography sites and made the mistake of trying to close them, taking me to their pages and getting hijacked with their software. What really pisses me off about it is, one of the songs I was looking up was the Inspector Gadget theme, what if some young kid who is learning guitar was looking at the site for a song and copped this? (do internet filters catch this sort of thing?)  I'm thinking that a guitar tab page would probably not be blocked by parents as it is innocent enough in theory and this might be missed. But maybe the site name should have set off the alarm bells  guitartabsexpert. I didn't put 2 & 2 together and just saw guitartabs expert when I should have seen guitartab sex pert. This is fucking disgusting and these low lifes will (Eric Cartman Southern Preacher Voice) "Burn in the fires of everlasting hell-uh", or better yet send 'em all to live in heaven with the mormons.

After looking around a bit (well as much as I can before the page freezes) I've noticed Prometheus sequel stories and fan art, so assume posting fan fiction/art is acceptable and will post my ideas and concept art, screenplay pages etc. Hope ya like it, let me know (positive or negative, never hurts to take on constructive criticism when you are working on any creative project) all comments will be appreciated.

Cool. I Love screen plays. Bring it on!

I would do a few online scans like Pandascan for viruses..

I would download and run Malewarebytes, Spybot Search and Destroy and Trend Micro HijackThis  there are a few other things you can do by altering your start up sequence by downloading CCcleaner and search and suspicious file names you find for how to remove them... you can also stop most of the Start Up Programs with that CCCleaner..

Once you have done that i would reconmend Fire Fox Browser with No Script and Ad Block and these two programs on a clean system prevent so much viruses.

Cheers BigDave, I got Pandascan and that has fixed the major problems. The norton scan I ran detected 3 threats and removed them, which did fix the problem briefly, but the pandascan detected 4 and removed them. obviously some sort of virus that hijacked the Prometheus pages was still active, posting is a lot easier now, thanx dude.

I've started posting my story ideas and also my ending for my Alien Prequel/Prometheus rewrite: Alien: Evolution's Nightmare. Check it out if you are looking for a story that fits in more directly with Alien whilst also trying to come up with some new ideas that fit thematically.

Would be interested to know what you think. 

Cheers BigDave, I got Pandascan and that has fixed the major problems. The norton scan I ran detected 3 threats and removed them, which did fix the problem briefly, but the pandascan detected 4 and removed them. obviously some sort of virus that hijacked the Prometheus pages was still active, posting is a lot easier now, thanx dude.

I've started posting my story ideas and also my ending for my Alien Prequel/Prometheus rewrite: Alien: Evolution's Nightmare. Check it out if you are looking for a story that fits in more directly with Alien whilst also trying to come up with some new ideas that fit thematically.

Would be interested to know what you think. 

Yes well any sort of flash backs to help patch up part 1 could be very useful. possibly time travel may come in this story as well I have seen an interesting idea involving the engeneers being us from the future :O ...

Yer I must admit I use ad block in chrome as well but my mobile I click the adverts a bit for the sites sake...

Install No Script and Ad Block they can help reduce the chances of Viruses and Hijacks because they stop any back ground scripts running that launch these.

Be sure to scan with Adwcleaner too, there is the safe link on Bleepingcomputer.com. it targets and destoys any malware and adware that has installed itself in your computer. It's a tiny download, don't be suspicious, it's saved my computer many times, good program. PM admins or staff if you need help please.

Telling Chris right now so he can check. No one else has ever mentioned getting a virus from here though and Google monitors the site for us. Still, it's best he take a look just in case. 

^

Thanks for the info about your PC filled with viruses, be sure to clean all and do not trust in cleaning software, some of the bugs that you got just god knows WHERE,  LOL, will stay in your computer and you will keep having troubles with any random site that you try to use from your computer.

For future reports, and to keep some order in the threads, we do appreciate the members to use the regular channel using the PM system ( this is not a cleaning PC viruses's forum, it is a PROMETHEUS's forum); is the way we have to keep the threads free of spam and not off the topic. 

I will put here to you a list of the staff:

http://www.scified.com/members/staff/

Do no hesitate in PM us.

Thanks for the warning!, Tech deparment will check, Google monitors our site for any adware and viruses. And please any new information (screen recorder, screenshots) send us a PM, we will reply with any help we can provide to make your stay as pleasant as possible.

As a personal advice and knowing that pop up's viruses, the most accurate and effective way to get rid of them is to format your pc, cause it seems it is very infected,and you might keep having troubles each time you try to surf in the web. 

Every site across Scified is constantly monitored and scanned to prevent malware from getting in. Also, we deal with reputable ad companies and don't support invasive advertising. It's likely you could've picked up something elsewhere, viruses can piggy-back on many different file types, even images. There's been a lot of good suggestions already for ways to keep your PC clean, so I'll let you give them a try and hopefully it clears things up.

As for using AdBlocker, I understand its use, I even use it for YouTube videos myself, but for sites like this one who don't show video-preroll or video overlay ads, it really isn't necessary. Not to mention, ads are the only way that these sites are going to remain online. I make great efforts to keep ads out of the way for our viewers and work to make them as subtle as possible. The more people who use AdBlock or who use it and don't whitelist their favorite sites, are really negatviely affecting our ability to maintain and develop the community. Just thought I'd throw that out there, since many people install it but don't really understand the hefty negative impact it has on us publishers / site owners. Especially for a sites like these, which don't require a subscription service. Just something to consider.

Yes Chris thats correct and sorry if my advise has had a detremental effect....  I must inform people that you can add exceptions to certain sites and fans can do this with this site, maybe even click on some adverts to help.

Just so sad that some sites throw up Pornographic Pop Pops and Viruses that cause people to seek out such protection that then can effect other sites that have honest and less invasive adds that generate income for the Sites to exist....

The user who needed advise has most likely got a Hijack and so they would get a lot of Spam and intrusive adds and pop ups regardless what site they go to... and so their problem is not with this site... as even when i use this site from a computer that does not have my protection the adverts are not a problem at all.

Anyway thanks for such a wonderful job the Scified Community does.... and i think its time i make another donation ;) for all the hard work

Yeah it was a virus that was hijacking many sites I visited (not Facebook though) including the Prometheus site. It would hijack the scroll bar, the next page tab, the log in box, and clicking on any of these would take you to advertising sites, the page would jump up and down and trying to post was a nightmare. On BigDave's advice I downloaded Pandascan and that fixed up the problem totally. I still occasionaly have problems with posts sometimes as sometimes when I click add reply the site logs me out and the post disappears entirely, or as the other day I added a reply which posted 3 times and no AI I didn't click ADD REPLY 3 times, I may be a musician and not very technically minded when it comes to computers, but I'm not a Moron.

I will keep my posts more concise and on topic from now on and curb my tendencies to go off into vitrioloic rants.

Cheers to all for the feedback and advice.

@jamiethebastard - it has been speculated that the reason Ridley got "cold feet" was due to the FOX studio view that Spaihts original script was too dark and perhaps too difficult to realize on the screen so they brought in Lindelof, a proven (!) TV writer who specializes in blind alleys, poorly drawn characters and other literary diversions in an effort to "punch" up the script.  The resulting movie is visually stunning however as a back story to one of the most original horror movies of all time it falls woefully short.

Yes it appears that Fox felt that the movie was going to be too much of a Direct Prequel and give Answers to the Space Jockey and Xeno in a way that was too much Spoon Fed...

They wanted to take the attention from the Xeno and Space Jockey and his Cargo of Eggs and evolve into more about the Engineers and what about their culture....

Spaights draft basically read like a

1) Here is how the Space Jockey happened.... job done...

2) Here we go to find out about these Engineers and their culture and Agenda. In a Sequel.

This left holes because well the Space Jockey had been dead for what looked thousands of years.... Also the aftermath of Spaights draft on LV 426 would surely had left us with the Questions, why could the company not get their hands on the Xeno or other Engineer Experiments apart from the Derelict  when LV 426 is a Engineer Bio-Weapon and Creation Outpost...

The same kind of problems occur in Prometheus  aswell as far as Lv 223, but this could be more easier to explain away by some event to yet happen on LV 223,  that would fit better than some event to happen on LV 426..

Anyway Lindeloff came in to make some changes, and they wanted to steer away from showing us too much information on the Xeno or related Organisms, but still have LV 223 as a place that we are shown their is a connection as far as experiements go.

They wanted to showcase us more of the other things from Spaights draft as opposed to showing us a all manner of different Xeno -related Organisms that these Engineers was working on....

Spaights Focus was mainly this Order....  Engineer Experiments = Xeno Related Creations = Event that led to Space Jockey = Engineers Agenda and Culture and finally Human Crew and Android Story...

Linedloffs came in and changed the Order to...  Engineer Outpost = Engineer Culture = Android David and Weyland.= Xeno Related goings on and finally other Crew Member Strories.