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David's Answer to Vicker's "How Long?"

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Preston

MemberOvomorphSep-27-2014 9:36 PM

Vickers: How long?

David: Two years, four months, 18 days, 36 hours, 15 minutes...

Vickers: Any casualties?

 

A strange answer considerng 36 hours should become 19 days and 12 hours. 

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meshuggah

MemberOvomorphSep-28-2014 1:34 AM

I think David was just screwing with her lol

Fleshvessel

MemberOvomorphSep-28-2014 10:52 AM

This one has been talked about a lot, and I still wonder myself. 

 

Some say he flubbed the line. (Which is ridiculous, and they would have caught that.)

Some say time distortion due to travelling FTL. (Which I cannot wrap my small brain around yet.)

Perhaps it is an example of the "wiggle room" In His programming. He must provide an answer, and he does. The answer is accurate, but delivered in a very strange and specific manner of his choosing. 

This is the first time in the movie where he demonstrates this ability. 

THETRICKISNOTMINDINGITHURTS

Anunnaki50

MemberOvomorphSep-28-2014 2:24 PM

He is a British accented machine and has English customs and language look at how we say the month, day, and year. They say it day, month, and then year. To me its because hes a UK design and manners. Plus since Vickers mother was probably an American he either messed with her or hes just being David.

The Anunnaki were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, mighty men of high reno

OldGuy

MemberOvomorphSep-28-2014 3:59 PM

Pehaps time was kept differently on board Prometheus.  The 24 hour day is based on the rotation of the Earth and would have no meaning (other than custom) in space.

 

  

In Space, no one can hear you fart.

BigDave

MemberDeaconSep-28-2014 6:10 PM

True but i think they are using Earth time as in 24 hour clock...

Its simply a error in the script or maybe David saying his lines wrong, could be a tiny thing that they never noticed till after they moved onto another shot, then did not want to reshoot the scene again.

You would thought someone would pick up on David saying 36 hours if the script had 12 hours on it i,e 19 days and 12 hours.... so i would say its most likely Fassbender read the script how it was... thus a mistake on the script given that day.

They could have been rushed for time and simply let a little mistake slip by and not notice..

There are after all other errors in shooting of this movie that ideally needed scenes to be redone to fix, that was instead simply not done and hope only a few keen eyes would spot them..

And the Fight with the Trillobite is one of these scenes.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Something Real

MemberTrilobiteSep-28-2014 7:08 PM

PRESTON - What an interesting question! I've always felt that the "Two years, four months and 18 days" segment was the time in which the crew was hibernating in cryo-stasis, while the "36 hours, 15 minutes..." segment was the amount of time the crew had spent slowly waking and beginning their routines aboard the vessel. David was simply giving a concise, run-on description of the time - perhaps due to the artificial nature of his brain. Of course, that's simply my opinion; it very well could have been any number of actualities - including an error in dialogue! Regardless, thank you very much for having presented this interesting topic! :)

Major Noob

MemberOvomorphSep-29-2014 3:50 AM

I think we were getting a first glimpse of David being not too impressed with his masters. If that's correct, then it's a clever scene: Vickers being established as a troublesome micro manager, David having none of it, this going right over her head, proving her 'servant' to already be at least one step ahead.

Lone

MemberPraetorianSep-29-2014 6:40 AM

I agree with the Major.....no way is the "36 hours" a script error nor an actor error,  as both Sir Ridley and Fassbender are far too meticulous for that to happen!

 

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

BigDave

MemberDeaconSep-29-2014 8:26 AM

" Fassbender are far too meticulous for that to happen!"

 

Fassbender yes... Ridley..?

 

Well being busy on set mistakes can be made and are in his other movies, but to be fair most movies have flaws and mistakes hardly no movie is perfect as far as goofs and mistakes, these things happen.

 

Maybe yes this can be brushed aside as David meaning to do it on purpose showing signs of being sarcastic, but i just dont see how that would fit with that moment in the movie...

 

If it was part of the script maybe would been better if someone corrected him and have David make a Sarcastic Comment like "oh i see 2 years in Cryo Sleep has not affected your Human Brain..." or "i see that having your Brain Frozen for 2 years has not affected your ability to do Math"... then  "i thought maybe a bit of Sarcasm on my side would help me maybe fit in more with you Humans.. as you did design me in your image"

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Lone

MemberPraetorianSep-29-2014 8:57 AM

Lol...point taken Big D!

If any of us are ever lucky enough to get the chance, let's ask Fassbender or Sir Ridley about this!

Only way to be sure! :D

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

**Al**

Community ExecutiveMemberOvomorphSep-29-2014 9:22 PM

If I remeber good; I read  Lindelof said that (David's answer)  was not written, so he couldnt take cradit of it- butI can not recall in where.

The world will spin well past our last breath, but I will always care about you

Major Noob

MemberOvomorphSep-30-2014 3:30 PM

^ AI ^ I remember that too, I was disappointed with DL's response. I like my version better! Thank you for this thread, Preston, you brought some long unheard voices together. 

djamelameziane

MemberFacehuggerSep-30-2014 3:34 PM

I am with you dave but I must admit its been so long since I watched the film...I must give it another go and hope I can get through the whole thing :S . But yes there are so many mistakes in this film its like swiss cheese this could well be another!

 "It's almost as if they are making it up as they go along" :D

Major Noob

MemberOvomorphSep-30-2014 3:38 PM

DJ Swiss cheese is a lovely snack when paired with prosciutto.

djamelameziane

MemberFacehuggerSep-30-2014 3:57 PM

Hmmm I shall try it sounds nice.

 "It's almost as if they are making it up as they go along" :D

BigDave

MemberDeaconSep-30-2014 4:19 PM

LOL

 

We only Human.... yeah the Engineer Scale aside...

 

One of the Biggest comes from the Last Battle Scene, its a case of they shot a very long scene...

Then they decided to well after they finished redo a part of the Scene.... Engineer entering the Door and just run to attack Shaw with his Face Burn and she just slams the button to unleash cuddles....

Doing this and sticking to this scene, is why the other scene of the Engineer getting up from out of his crashed ships pilot chair and running to the Life Boat... The Engineer had no Face Burn.

Thus had be cut because well how they explain the face burn if the shot they decided to stick to was to show us he burnt it while the ship crashed...

But then look closer, you see during the Attack the now you see it now you dont, now you do Face Burn....

All shows me the Face Burn happened just prior to the point when the Engineer lost the battle... i can only assume some how Cuddles Acid burnt him maybe he bite down on Cuddles to escape, as when your on the lossing side of a battle and in a head lock you will as a last measure try and bite, all Mammals do and other creatures...

If the Engineer did this, he would get Acid Burn if Cuddles is Genetically related to the Xeno and thus thats how the Burn happend in my oppinion.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Major Noob

MemberOvomorphSep-30-2014 5:03 PM

Big Dave I agree with you, the only problem I have with that is I would think the Engineer knows better than to bite a Morb.

OldGuy

MemberOvomorphSep-30-2014 5:03 PM

Script error?  Unlikely.  Actor error?  Again, dialog is the easist part of any film to correct.  Actors routinely re-record their dialog in post production.  Marlon Brando was famous for mumbling his lines during shooting and then fixing his dialog in post production.

Just another plot hole that Lindelof expects us to fall into.  Lost My Ass.

 

 

In Space, no one can hear you fart.

Major Noob

MemberOvomorphSep-30-2014 5:57 PM

Old Guy- Lindelof was oddly both in over his head and just the right guy at the right time. This movie is a gem and one of it's strengths is just how weird it is ( no comments from you, DJ!). Personally I hope for at least a bit more of the same.  Nice to hear from you, BTW. 

oduodu

MemberXenomorphOct-01-2014 12:05 AM

vickers wanted to know if weyland was still alive but thats besides the point.

 

perhaps done on purpose ???

BigDave

MemberDeaconOct-01-2014 1:25 PM

Agreed Major Noob, we have to assume the Engineer is aware of the ACID Blood the Organisms from the Goo in Urns could have...

But again when life is under threat and you can not break free then biting is a survival instinct more than a tactical decision.

Even if that was the case of being tactical, i guess if a Person was attacked by another who they knew was infected with say Ebola or HIV, or even lets go as far as are a Zombie. And they are held down and will be bitten by the attacker, i think in that situation a person could choose maybe biting as a way of escaping... But be like if they knew someone with Ebola and HIV was not only trying to bite them but say kill them with a knife... i.e they know their life is in danger and that while there is a risk in biting, if they do not do so they would know they would die because they are being attacked by a killer and are out muscled.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Redant

MemberOvomorphOct-03-2014 10:13 PM

When David says 36 hours and 15 minutes this not a mistate. David is refering to the rotational hours of the planet Threshold and this would be proof. We know that as they 
go down the terrain is much larger than on earth hence the larger circumfrence of the 
planets surface. 

Also because there are another 12 hours of circumfentational rotaion would not add
that much more gravity to the surface of the planet. 

Redant

MemberOvomorphOct-03-2014 10:26 PM

Take these ratios for an example:

100 pounds on Neptune would give you a weight of 118.4 pounds

Neptune mass equals 

  1. Mass102.4E24 kg (17.15 Earth mass)

    Diameter of neptune: 30,599 miles (49,244 km)
    Surface area: 2.941 billion sq miles

  2. Diameter of Earth: 7,918 miles (12,742 km)
    Surface area196.9 million sq miles



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Redant

MemberOvomorphOct-03-2014 10:49 PM

There are some movie web sites that state that Spaihts said the 36 hours was an intentional mistake to show that David could be twitchy in his programming like Ash.

http://whatculture.com/film/prometheus-writer-jon-spaihts-confirms-36-hours-plot-hole-was-deliberate.php

Prometheus Writer Jon Spaihts Confirms “36 Hours” Plot-Hole Was Deliberate

A commonly cited “plot-hole” amongst Prometheus detractors is David 8’s “36 hours” moment…

When the crew reach the moon LV-223 and awake from their extended cryo-sleep, David responds to Meredith Vickers that they have been asleep for “2 years, 4 months, 18 days, 36 hours, 15 minutes.” A common complaint has been that if Michael Fassbender’s David is using established temporal units to measure time, then he should have said ”2 years, 4 months, 19 days, 12 hours and 15 minutes?”  Why 36 hours?

One of our keen Prometheus fans tweeted screenwriter Jon Spaihts to ask him and he just notified me about the response he received from Mr Spaihts. In it the screenwriter confirmed that this supposed “plot-hole” was deliberate stating “Robots have been showing off with this trick as long as there have been robots…” It’s likely that the line was included to show that David had some elements of  ‘twitchy programming’, rather like future android model Ash in Alien.

If anyone at all could confirm this it would be greatly appreciated and would give us difinitive cannon.

oduodu

MemberXenomorphOct-04-2014 5:04 AM

thanks redant

 

thanks for sharing that !!!!

**Al**

Community ExecutiveMemberOvomorphOct-16-2014 11:28 AM

So that is taking us again to the first comment

 

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meshuggah 

 

 

I think David was just screwing with her lol

 

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The world will spin well past our last breath, but I will always care about you

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