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Are xenomorphs the oldest species in the universe?

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Gimm-e

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I ask this because: * In Alien Ash said the atmosphere was almost 'primordial'. * The engineers ( an über-ancient species) have a xenomorph-wallpaper. * The eggs in Alien were still 'alive' (remember that the SJ was fossilized?) What if the xenomorphs were the first multi-cellurar organism in the universe? That they are older than planet Earth itself( this seems logical)? I would be so proud of my favourite fictional critter! What do you people think? To me it makes sense: acid for blood, a tough exoskeleton, no eyes ( because they would be damaged by cosmic radiation if there wasn't any atmosphere), enough claws and teeth to defend itself against the most vicious predators, hypersensitive senses and instinct... the ultimate killing machine...destroyer of civilisations.
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I would hope so! I see them as being a lot more than just big alien insects! More like the perfect personification of pure life, from the dna of some ancient evil. Something that is VERY difficult to kill.

The poster was good though!

 

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^^ right on dude. When Ridley said: 'What's the Alien doing in Disneyland'? I also thought: g*dd*amn, it's all about this f***ing money, and no longer about the notion behind it all. Within 5 years from now they could have made the ultimate alien movie ( with all the progress that's being made in Movie Land), but noooooo, we had to swallow this 'theory' first. [b]Shame on you, Fox![/b] After all they did to my all-time-favourite franchise, I'm seriously considering to alter my 'religion'. But who am I right?
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Gimmefacehug LMFAO !!!! "...but noooooo....!!!!!" That was and still is a brilliant post !!!!! Then everything else including the engineers must have evolved from them . Maybe they did seed worlds ( the xenos did ) and then man evolve from them ???
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Sorry off topic Gimmefacehug The ultimate alien movie was written. It is spaihts alien engineer script and it is brilliant imho. BUT P1 was both a solution and curse at the same time BECAUSE Without the whole alien franchose would have died. In the long run p1 is a blessing because then we can discuss it . As you can see from below the point is not to solve it but to discuss it ...... On topic So maybe man evolved from the xeno and it was a primordial dark world where dolphin shaped head was heccary for echo location as there is no light - tubes at back where the water exited that was filtered for oxygen and / or co2 - elongated movable jaw that effective make you able to kill and eat at the same time - no ones going to eat you because you have acid for blood - you can live from the heat of geysers and volcanic flows and you can literally photosynthysize your own food as you have chrolofil inside your skin and just heat and oxygen and co2 water to produce your own food - maybe that wht they are called the perfect oranism ??? You can sense danger hours before at happens and your collective hive mind can tell all of tour kind 1km exactly what's going to happen - shared memories - Perhaps.........
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Gimmefacehug Yes an alien movie that touches upon the true horror of alien - that human brain/being trapped inside that monster !!!
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Wow Oduodu, really thinking out of the box there, aren't you. And thank you for liking my topic, I still can't get over it apparently.... Great thoughts from a clear mind if you ask me! But to me the ultimate Alien script was the ALIEN movie. No pun intended. If they didn't film it, it doesn't exist IMO.
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Point taken !!!!
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The xenomorph does look somewhat like a dolphin/ whale/ beluga. Point taken :) And the spikes on the xenomorph's back really makes me wonder: was it used to breathe under/ above water? To secrete some sort of resin? Who knows?
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[i]"In Alien Ash said the atmosphere was almost 'primordial'."-Gimmeafacehu[/i] That's just the planet, we still don't know where the Xeno's originate from. [i]And the spikes on the xenomorph's back really makes me wonder: was it used to breathe under/ above water? To secrete some sort of resin?-Gimmeafacehug[/i] Yes, the tubes on the Xeno's back were supposed to secrete a resin. They wanted to make scenes in "Alien" where the Xeno is hanging upside-down cocooning someone with material out of its tubes but they were unable to film it because the special effects were too costly and difficult to do at the time. I can't find the video on the subject anymore on YouTube, if I do I will post it. Also you guys, Ridley is the one who initially described the Xeno as an insect. Like an ant.

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@Svanya, hello darling! :) How are the kids? I know, I know, that's why I want to know what the 'xenomorph's background' is . There are so many interpretations for this story since Prometheus so... I'm an enemy of (deliberate, non-sensical) ambiguity. haha Greetings to your children, just say there was a really weird guyt online ;) Again, if they didn't film i, I don't care, so I don't know about xenos secreting resin from the tubes on their back. Love y'all!
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'Also you guys, Ridley is the one who initially described the Xeno as an insect. Like an ant' wow wow wow wow wow, Where did he say that? I have the Alien Quadrilogy and the Blu-ray Anthology. I never heard him say that in anywhere. But then again, I'm deaf on one side( really)
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@Gimmeafacehug; This was Ridley and Giger talking, so it was something they did intend on having in the movie, the special effects just could not do it at the time. I'll get the ant video for ya, Ridley is describing it. Also, I don't have any children. Unless you mean my extensive video game collection. :P

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*epic facepalm* I thought you had....like 2... Videogames? I'm all ears! :p Name some of your favourite titles if you please, Miss Svanya.
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Hmm, well off the top of my head, Bioshock series, Deus-Ex, Dishonored, Portal 1&2, Half-Life2, Elder Scrolls, The Witcher, Tomb Raider,Left4dead, Fallout, MMORPG's like Wow and Rift.

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Svanya Another revelation from svanya !!!! Thank you because now I know what ithey do !! Svanya you were also the noticed the embryo passing from the facehugger to kane in the ambiguity questions thread. You posted a photo of it at the time and no one commented at the time ? Where do get all this ?? From the documentaries ?? I would especiall like to know where you read about the tubes at the back . I always thought they were used in aliens to hook up with the nest like ambilical pipes used to transfer heat from the cooling pipe water that tr ansfered heat away from the radiators in the cooling towers of the atmosphere processors. That s how they sustained themselves. Might the differences between the alien in alien ans aliens be explained because the stasis filed he went into had eggs slightly different to the ones kane encountered (as they went to a different stasis field and spaihts alien engineer draft said there were 8 different kind of alien eggs each one slightly different and that came from ridley) and that maybe the stasis field the jordan father went in to had a more weaponised facehugger that might actually produce a queen ?? Not all the eggs were created equal !!! Or something like it
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I'm going to assemble my own pc (for the Witcher 3) here's the list: case: Prodigy Bitfenix from Caseking. processor: Intel I 4570k Ram: 16 Gb ( don't know what brand yet) graphics card: Nvidia Geforce 760 4 GB FTW Power supply: Seasonic650 Watts Cooler: Scythe Mugen 4 etc.
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@oduodu; Yes I remember that, that was a screenshot from the movie "Alien", when Ash is talking to Dallas. I get my info from all media. I just really am interested in the subject and have seen a lot of documentries. Here is one quote; I still have to find the video of Ridley discussing it, sadly a lot of the videos get deleted from YouTube. [i]"I wanted him [the Alien] to be insect-like. Like an ant. Because if you examine an ant under a microscope they’re kind of elegant, and I wanted him to be very elegant and dangerous.”- Ridley Scott, The Alien Saga, 2002 (archival interview from 1991)[/i] Here is an article someone else wrote on the subject, and he also used Ridley's quotes.[url=http://alienseries.wordpress.com/2012/10/18/the-insect-influence/]The Insect Influence[/url]

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Thank you svanya !!!
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Oh you got to be kidding me. Why Ridley, why ?? :(
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Gimmeafacehug Have you seen the ridleygrams 1 and 2 ??

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