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1 year later : what is your opinion of prometheus now. has it changed or remain?

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oduodu

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I am asking members to state after viewing prometheus many times after its release has your opinion on the movie changed after it the first time . Do you like it more or less and why that its the case . I like it more now then I did at first because Ridley did answer a few questions. What the space jockey is and the xenos is bio weapon . It also adds to the horror of alien as you realize that this xenomorph / alien / morb whatever you would like to call it is not an accident but engineered but what for ? Finally : the true beauty of prometheus for me by itself is the realisation that there is something very powerful out that engineered us /the engineers / the xenomorph ? Who and wHat is this being ? I shudder to think ......
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I'm still just as confused. Are we suppose to be asking this many questions and coming up with this many different opinions, or is this movie just badly laid out?
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I prefer movies that make me think about the ending....not the beginning, middle AND ending. Sigh.
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I am officially in love with it!! I always thought it was good from the beginning, but over the year I have learned to appreciate it even more. and it's such a big part of my life too hahaa. that's pretty weak, but its the truth :) Prometheus has definitely improved during this past year

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Dawning Hi there I can only smile when I read your posts. I felt the same way a year ago when prometheus Came out. Ambiguity is not a bad thing. But There are limits. Yes The questions I believe were made not to be aNswered out right. That leaves open a lot of speculation. Which I believe was the intended purpose. I implore you to read the secrets of the dark liquid revealed and read every post very carefully . I would also implore you to read all the stickies and aquint yourself with. That is the only way you can form a decent opinion for yourself. Live long and prosper !! Peace !!!!
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:) I just happened on this website like yesterday, so there's a lot to read! But I'm getting through it. I know there's a lot that I'm missing, maybe just not linking things in my head properly, idk. But given the choice of a movie that has everything completely laid out for you or a movie that sparks real conversation, I'll take the latter!
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Hello Dawning! Oduodu- I love Prometheus but then I love a lot of things that don't make sense. That sort of surreal reality bending is I think especially appropriate to Sci Fi, though of course only a rarified little segment of it. I was ever so delighted in the theatre, and while I have the BluRay, I'm so protective of my memories of the film that I've only watched it once, I don't want to become jaded! Dorky, I know. I like it more, now, and that's at least in part down to this site and the wonderful mods and posters that make it what it is. There's a great spectrum of personalities here, and a healthy spectrum of opinion as well. It totally adds to the horror of Alien, this sort of re telling of the story in a different format, the new threats ( Goo, Engineers, and whatever made them) and the relative absence of the Morb, so we know now there's much, much more to fear, genetic madness and fertility run amok. The ambiguity is important to this, how could we ever truly understand something so foreign? I was much more disturbed than if I had seen another jack in the box monster movie. Actually I think Prometheus makes perfect sense, if you're invested enough in it. Lots of people simply don't want this type of film, and its understandable, its usually independent films that indulge in such arty mischief. But that's what makes it a true treasure ( IMO), such an expensive, high profile movie being so singularly weird, and so well crafted, a totally immersive experience. To the extent we're still immersed. Really, a celebration of science fiction itself. Prometheus is one thing, and this site is another, and the two together is just too fantastic. I hope you like it here, and get some satisfaction from your time with us!
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To all So there are people out there that can say that prometheus has grown on them . That is enough for me to know that people's liking continue to grow. That's wonderful to know. Thanks For your replies.
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Well i dont want to get into a long post lol.... Basically i enjoyed the movie, i do think some of the deleted scenes explain more and should have been kept in. Overall the movie has its disappointments, this is not because its a bad movie, just that the potential was not explored as well as could, but then this is where sequels can come in. I dont mind the Ambiguity, i dont mind how some Characters kind of acted a bit out of character and well did some silly things. I think the only major faults are inconsistencies and contradictions. Visually it was a masterpeice it has some flaws and the main one being the Engineer size as they was trying to give the impression of him being 10ft tall, but while some seems he looks tall in other you can clearly see he is 7.5ft tall... Maybe with more of a budget and in hindsight they could have gone the Lord of the Rings and Hobbit Special Effects route where say 5ft6" actors appear to be 3ft6" Hobbits next to 6ft actors who play Humans or what ever. But this same kind of thing happened with Alien where the idea was to portray the Space Jockey as 25ft tall........ they use Child Actors as they was walking to the chair, then used the proper actors up close and these basically showed the Space Jockey to be 20ft plus in one scene but then 15ft tops in the next. The only other gripes being that maybe the story could have been used better and also less contradiction in the clues. Still a Good Movie, and i do like the changes made to Spaights script as his was more of just another Alien movie, if you read Lindloffs drafts they are actually more detailed than the final movie, i do think the Ambiguity could have been toned down a bit but then i did prefer Lindeloffs creative ideas of how to change Spaights Script. Overall i give the movie 3.5* out of 5, or more likely 7.5/10 For reference here is the other in franchise. Alien 9/10, Aliens 8.5/10, Alien 3 7/10 Alien Resurrection 6/10 Oh lets rate for comparison the Predators.... Predator 9/10 Predator II 7.5/10, Predators 7.5/10 AVP 6.5/10 AVPR 5/10

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Dawning But given the choice of a movie that has everything completely laid out for you or a movie that sparks real conversation, I'll take the latter! You're at the right place then !!!!! The ambiguity isn't bad because people will still be talking about alien and prometheus 10 years from now . What other movie franchise can say that ?? Enjoy !!!!
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Bigdave Hi there Has the movie remained the same ? If you watch it now has it grown on you or does it still leave you with the same impression as when you watched it the first time ? Does it have staying power ? Will it become a classic ?
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I will second that, if we was spoon fed the plot and secrets it would lead to a lot less debate lol... Some of the Ambiguity is great like the Mural, the Dead Engineers etc i really like how we dont get to know exactly what the deal was. Just inconsistencies mainly in how the Goo at the start of the movie worked and the one in the Urns and how they kind of try and hint its one and the same..... When well how does one pass Engineer DNA and the other Xeno DNA if its one and the same. Yeah Fox released a file but as said in other thread this just confused things more as it never added up with what we saw in the movie. The Ambiguity for the most part does lead to a intriguing possibilities for the franchise. With any of the areas we dont have clear answers for being explained more in future movies, while maybe also then creating more questions.. Like the Space Jockey, we got some answers but not every one about him, while leaving us now with more questions regarding Alien and the Space Jockey and leaving us with more about the Engineers. If the movie ended as it did and no sequels then yes it would be a bummer.... but as there is a part 2 and maybe part 3 i am sure we will get some more answers to the questions we got, but then these answers will create yet more questions. Its all very clever.

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I actually think its improved a bit, i guess by that after we watched it a few times we accept its flaws, we accept that yes the movie did not answer our questions not in a spoon fed way. And yes maybe getting over the Engineer height issue... The movie did not live up to what it could have been, but then once that has been accepted and then you go back and watch the movie for what it is. Then its more enjoyable. I think its just maybe the plot exeuction was not as good as could been, Alien was a good plot that was well executed, Aliens was a basic action movie bug fest like Star Ship Troopers, it added some character to the Xeno and Queen and it was well executed. The back bone of Prometheus Plot was better than Aliens and i would say even Alien, but with so much potential in such a plot i feel the movie did not execute it as well as could. More of a connection to the Xeno and Engineers and Goo, more depth look at the Engineers etc... These are all things the plot has that are not fully explored..... But these are potential, you see with bigger budget and time and these potential plots in Paradise and a 3rd in the Franchise they can then clearly commit a movie that will explore in depth all these things. Thats why i think Paradise has such a huge potential to not only surpass Prometheus but maybe also Aliens and dare i say Alien if done well.

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Loved it then.... Am obsessed now. 45 Times watched trough (no joke- i keep a count on my iPhone) and it just keeps getting better.
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Big Dave, what's Paradise? Is this the name of the part II?
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Yeah I loved it then and have been hopelessly obsessed ever since. There is truly nothing else like it. Watching it over and obsessing over subtle details has helped shaped some things out a lot such as the origins of the xenomorph. Like the fact that the Deacon is born attached to a human placenta, which suggests strongly that it wouldn't be an egg layer since its birth is a mammalian birth and egg laying is more typical of invertebrates. There is a creature in the film that is an invertebrate and an hermaphrodite to boot, and it's also the only creature in the film shown to have acid for blood; the hammerpede. Since the hammerpede is simply a mutated worm it follows that it would be an egg-layer and what lends more credence to this is the fact that Lindelof states in the commentary that the worms are 'track one' in terms of the film's relationship with Alien. The hammerpede has always been touted as a precursor of the facehugger and the fact that it evolved from worms that are native to LV-223, a place where silica storms are quite frequent, it is more than sensible to assume it is the ancestor of the xenomorph. Every xeno in its larval stage are worm-like and shed their skin like worms. I mention the silica storms since this recalls what Ash says about the facehugger's prolonged resistance to adverse environmental conditions; 'shedding its cells and replacing them with polarised silicon.' As the 8th most common element in the universe by mass, silicon is widely distributed in dusts, sands, planetoids, and planets as various forms of silicon dioxide, otherwise known as silica or silicates. The worms are the beginning of the classic xenomorph; they thrived in a place where silica storms were frequent and they provide context to what happened on the derelict and the species life-cycle itself.
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When I first saw it I wasn't to sure. I mean the space jockey being a human, at first I didn't really like it. Well but since then I have come to understand Prometheus alot more and I love the Idea of the spacejockey being human, it adds so many more possibilities. I think Prometheus has opened up the whole alien story and expanded it dramatically. The film is such an enigma. There are so many elements to it, symbolism, analogies, a totaly puzzle of a movie, which I think is probably a cinematic first. I cant wait to see number 2, I want to know for certain what the black goo is and what the green stone is for.
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For me it has improved. Through discussions here I gained a better understanding what was going on. The sad thing is that outside of this site there is not much buzz about the movie or a future release. That is a shame because there could be some excellent storyline to explore.
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After seeing the franchise pan (or peter!) out, I was excited to know what Ridley was going to do with the story. Prometheus looked beautiful. The story was not what I expected at all & came as a total surprise! I found some elements frustrating, yet enigmatic.

Not being a direct prequel bugged me at first. Now I think it was definitely the only way to go. I was also a little disappointed that there wasn't that doom laden claustrophobia, nor shock-ridden, scary moments a la Alien. But this was a different type of story, expanded in concept & landscape.

The shocks came more from the misconceptions the human race has about it's creation, rather than any visceral moments. On the one hand Ridley tried to give us something new & different, yet you can see the roots of Alien & Giger intertwined & extrapolated throughout, taking us down a parallel path. A symbiosis, which leaves Alien intact.

A year down the line, I can't wait for a sequel. There will be some answers, but a whole new set of frustrating questions will arise! That ultimately is what makes it a success. I've always been totally obsessed with Alien & I'm now the same about Prometheus & where it could lead us!

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@Dawning Yes it seems Prometheus 2 could be called Paradise, well i think it may be called... Prometheus : Paradise. As at the end of Prometheus and the deleted scene, David informs to Shaw that the Engineers did not come from LV223 but a place that we call Paradise and this is their home world and its where Shaw wants David to take her. As far as the debate about the Hammerpedes and Face Hugger, we never saw the Trilobite get cut open so we cant rule out it would also have Acid for Blood. To me the Trilobite was the closest to a Face Hugger as it indeed performed the same task.... However the Mural shows Face Huggers, and Ridley had stated that the Xenomorph had been around way before the events of Prometheus so nothing in Prometheus becomes the Proto Xeno but they are all merely Evolution of the Organism.

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I liked it last year & all the build up to it's release was great! I love this site & understand more because I came here. I do wish there could be an uncut version released in the near future? I love this movie even more than I did a year ago!

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