1 year later : what is your opinion of prometheus now. has it changed or remain?

This about sums up my feelings towards Prometheus: Watched it the other day and had always assumed after Janek flirts with Vickers the two escaped away for some "relief" but I finally confirmed it. Janek is doing Vickers. It is confirmed in the most subtle way in the next scene.....Milburn and Fifield contact the hammerpede and radio back to the ship, they keep trying to reach the Prometheus but can't because Janek isn't keeping watch like he should be. awesome

@BigDave, regarding the 'pedes and trilobite, true, we don't see the trilobite be cut open but that is precisely the point, Lindelof stated in the commentary that there are two tracks in regard to Alien; the worms and Holloway's infection. Now, it's sensible to assume that the mutagen will utilize the host's sexual reproduction that is available to it; the mutagen utilized Holloway's sperm, that sperm mutated into a giant facehugger creature and the end result was a deacon. Now, the Deacon is surely no where near as evolved as the classic xeno; it features no tail, has human teeth and is overall far more humanoid. It is born with a human placenta; placentals don't lay eggs. Again, placentals don't lay eggs! "Is it an egg layer?" - Lindelof So what came first? The Queen or the Egg? Recall the hammerpede; a mutated worm and an obvious hermaphrodite with acid for blood, it's behaviour is akin to a classic facehugger; it constricted tighter around Milburn's arm when touched and went down his throat like a Facehugger's proboscis. Now, I don't think the 'pede laid anything inside Milburn; given how bloodied it was when it exited his mouth it simply made a snack of his innards. But since the 'pede is essentially a larger and nastier worm it follows that its lifecycle would be that of an egg layer and the next generation would be the classic facehugger. Why not? The pede has always been known as a precursor to the facehugger, the film misdirects us with the Trilobite and Deacon. This makes sense given the fact that classic huggers replace their cells with silicone and silica storms were prevalent on '223 and the only native creatures we see in the film are the worms. GOO>WORM>HAMMERPEDE>EGG>FACEHUGGER>ENGINEER>XENOMORPH/QUEEN How do you think the queen got its egg laying capabilities? It follows that since the xenos are hermaphrodites, skin shedders and appear as worms when they're born that they are descendants of the worms native to LV-223 where these worms thrived in adverse environmental conditions of frequent silica storms.

I recently saw the movie on blu-ray 3D on my friend's new TV. Pretty awesome as well as the first time at the theatre. Yes, lots of questions to be answered! Am looking forward to it.

I like it less now than on first viewing and her is why. There were not many characters to like in Prometheus. If there isn't anyone I care about or can relate to, I don't care what happens in the movie: It becomes boring. The ship's crew seemed to be drawn from from low-level criminal idiots, while the price-tag for such a mission would have been huge. This is such an error, I can no longer suspend disbelief for the rest of the movie. Guess the future with its population of 12 billion plus people has very few qualified people to hire for such a mission? The visual shots of the gas-giant are pure gold. Wow. Like pearls before swine. This disparity between the tools of great movie-making (A-list actors and first-rate special effects) and the incompetent, idiotic writing, makes me angry at those who squandered the chance to make a great movie and instead delivered the audience inconsistent, boring garbage. Can no one tell a good story? Can no one hire a competent sci-fi writer like John Varley, Larry Niven, or Harlen Ellison? Please give us smart, competent characters to care about and don't patronize us with "big-picture god mystery crap". Allow us to draw the big picture from the smaller pieces. this gives us "buy -in", we are onboard, we are invested.

Yer soo true wily trout they all seem to be 'low level idiots' when Ridley him self says they are 'cutting edge scientists' . And it is things like this that are the biggest plot holes of all - and many of the fans of the movie just don't get. People don't just hate the movie because its ambiguous / unclear they hate the parts that plain don't make sense and that is the very definition of a plot hole. Dont get me wrong I think most people like a bit of ambiguity and some of it works in this film but too much is also a bad thing and like I say this is actually a separate thing in parts from the 'plot holes' or if you want call them 'mistakes' or just plain illogical film making decisions instead if your hung up on the idea of a plot hole. I too have not changed I thought it was almost a 6/10 when I left the movie the first time and im still about at that level : [url=http://www.prometheus2-movie.com/community/forums/topic/24846&page=2]http://www.prometheus2-movie.com/community/forums/topic/24846&page=2[/url] I think the only thing that would change my opinion would be if the second one or viral stuff somehow fed back into this first film making it look better - it could still happen I guess but after what I have seen so far I doubt it! And yes the greatest thing about it all is the overall idea encompassing this theme which has had us all talking so much - pity it never got executed properly.

Wily trout Hi there If there isn't anyone I care about or can relate to, I don't care what happens in the movie: It becomes boring. I understand your opinion but how do you like a movie only based on how you relate to the characters ? What about the story ? What about how it related to alien ? Its in the same universe is only a jump of point for other movies that will follow. The ship's crew seemed to be drawn from from low-level criminal idiots. There was a thread about the plotholes but it is unstickied now. Search for it ans read it if you want to .I personaly don't see the "idiot" crew as a plothole. BECAUSE Anyone who goes on a mission for more than 2 years of hypersleep and not know what they will end up doing is probably idiots OR They are in serious need of money AS Fifield indicated to milburn when he said he was only there to make money. he price-tag for such a mission would have been huge. This is such an error I agree remember that weyland was dying and he had days to live . There was a pauling medpod that was calibrated for a male (I believe it was weyland) as it was in vickers room (why not calibrated fir her who is a woman ? ). BECAUSE Weyland wanted bypass surgery done if they were able to find something that couild genetically regenerate him whoch why david told weyland that it was still to early to say if they have discovered anything that coild do that .thetefore money was irellivant and he woild have any amouint ti get people there to helop him stay alive .it seems he was looking for a way way to make a copy of his organs. SO Money no issue as loing as people are there to help him. That was there only purpose He didn't care for There personalities or criminal tendencies. He jad very short time. Money talks bulshit walks Prometheus was intended start not to be a full answer but rather a ridley remake of what things should have been , a possible hint at what he would have done had he been given the chance to do the second alien. Svanya quite clearly indicated the other day that prometheus is very much the original starbeast script and ridleye is using ideas he wasn't able to in the original alien. It came from his heart. May I ask you ? 1 do you know the starbeast connection to alien ? 2 do you uinderstand that there was a human skull in front of the original alien in alien ?(Where did this creature come from ?) What is relevance to black goo. 3 who is the space jockey and where did he come from and what happened to him and where did those eggs come from ? 4 are prometheus and alien in thye same universe ? If these questions aren't apparent/relevant to your fraime of reference then I can understand prometheus might not be that important as a movie standalone (by itself) Anyways I respect your opinion but lease read ip on the issues I have mentioned . It may show you something you didn't previouisly know. Live long prosper !!! Peace !!!!

Hmmm dont have time to go in to everything you said but : "The ship's crew seemed to be drawn from from low-level criminal idiots. There was a thread about the plotholes but it is unstickied now. Search for it ans read it if you want to .I personaly don't see the "idiot" crew as a plothole. BECAUSE Anyone who goes on a mission for more than 2 years of hypersleep and not know what they will end up doing is probably idiots OR They are in serious need of money" Ridley scott said they were 'cutting edge scientists' - how many cutting edge scientists are stupid? Simple as that it doesn't make sense plain and simple that is what a plot hole is. I mean as well just look at Weyland himself - supposedly one of the most intelligent men in history up to that point - did he look feel or do anything remotely intelligent?! Nope. Hey I am Weyland I have unlimited money resources or power Im off to meet some god like beings - shall I take any big weapons with me - naaa Ill take some little guns and a flame thrower then Ill walk up and stand next to a 8ft giant that might hate me even though Im almost dead and can barely walk im the most intelligent man in the universe :P :D ! Shall I try to work out some of the technology and use it with davids help - naaa! Shall I bring some serious back up - naa! Really bad film making (not that I hated everything about Prometheus don't get me wrong).

I watched it again in April. It became my all-time favorite film. Why? Because it offers me a universe both awe-inspiring and menacing. I don't care for harmless, juvenile fantasies. Its most evident qualities descend from its originator, the masterpiece "Alien". There is mystery, there is horror, there are strong and relatable characters, there is convincing scientific speculation and serious underlying themes. Of course it could be more [i]perfect[/i]... But if it were, would it really be as maddeningly fascinating?

Still love it and I continue to look for clues to the bigger picture. Found one just now. As the crew exit their vehicles the first time, the camera pans up from the base of the pyramid, with entrances, to the top. Shaw says "Prometheus do you see this?". HALF WAY UP I freeze the pan and there are 4 horizontal windows side by side. There are upper floors in the pyramid. Interesting.

Great Sic Fi. Beautiful effects and visuals. I've said before that I wished that Giger had designed more however over all I loved it. Still don't like the silly morphed zombie man, could have been so much more inspired by canon. 8/10 for me.

I was greatly disappointed in the film when I first saw it and not because I thought was bad....Quite the contrary. I thought it was a good film that could have and most certainly should have been great, but it fell far short of that. At first I was very confused by this mixed reaction. I saw it in the theater twice more and felt much the same. I detailed that initial reaction on this very site [url=http://www.prometheus2-movie.com/community/forums/topic/20200]here...[/url]. At that time, I felt the film was incomplete. My instincts told me the film was lost in the cut and my suspicions were confirmed when I was able to see the deleted scenes last October. I believe there is a much better story there given the context of these deleted scenes. For me, that's the tragedy of this film. There's a good story there and they mucked it up in the editing process. What it comes down to is that this film's theatrical cut has many things wrong with it, but a few in particular that really handicap its potential. - Inconsistency in character. The way this film was originally cut forced a number of characters to behave not only implausibly, but in ways that contradict themselves. Holloway, for one, is an archaeologist with a P.h.D. and yet he behaves like a six year old who's been at Disney World for merely six hours or so and throws a tantrum because he hasn't spoken to Mickey Mouse YET. I emphasize 'yet' because he would have had he been patient. My issue with that is that it's not believable. This team has made the greatest scientific discovery in history and he behaves like a child because he couldn't talk to them. Oh boohoo. You're an archaeologist for crying out loud. You're entire career revolves around unearthing and studying dead cultures. Deal with it. The deleted scenes play up the fact that he drinks himself stupid. Now this does not justify or excuse his behavior, but it makes it plausible, believable and yet they down played the drinking and the more extreme version of his conversation with Shaw to make him more 'sympathetic'. All that succeeded in doing was make him come off as pathetic. Ultimately, we don't care about him because we don't respect him. And that's just one example. I could go on, but I feel I'd just be rambling. At the end of the day, what I really want to express to my fellow fans is a notion that this film, as it was theatrically released, fell far short of the movie it ought to have been. I have never seen an example of a film with as much potential as [i]Prometheus[/i] only to learn that it was lost to us in the post production stage. One year later, [i]Prometheus[/i] is not a lost cause by any means, but in no way should we consider it a masterpiece.

I hear ya craige - I got pretty much the same view - good film infact amazing idea originally but poorly executed. But still much potential for the second one (fingers tightly crossed). And it wasn't just the film it was many parts of the viral stuff as well some of which is still out there messed up and unfinished like this : [url=http://www.projectprometheus.com/careers/]http://www.projectprometheus.com/careers/[/url] ( david post video still locked ) . All the guys preaching 'its like blade runner you'll moan now then love it in a few years' type stuff - it isn't getting any better yet! It would take a master piece of a second part to patch up what has happened and make it look solid! I just hope its not more of the same and it dies out before the third part :D . Ill stick by my review : [url=http://www.prometheus2-movie.com/community/forums/topic/24846]http://www.prometheus2-movie.com/community/forums/topic/24846[/url]

My opinion has changed, I'm somewhat more critical of the film as I've had longer to ruminate over the contrivances and plot holes in the story. I still appreciate the interesting themes illustrated, but as far as following fundamentals of good story telling this film fails rather abysmally.