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Custodian

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what I'm saying is, "If xenos are the gods, why is there a statue of a humanoid head in the ampule room?" In fact, didn't Lindelof INSERT this into the Spaiht rewrite? Has Lindelof ever been cross-examined about the head? Man, I gotta let this lie - but I love the discussion too much. I love it.
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claudius
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in alien resurection you see the eggs are put at the head of humans to bring xenomorph to life, the head is offering to xenomorph!!!like in ancient culture from earth
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@claudius: Well spotted. :)

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it's confusing but I still can't bring myself to think the xenos are the true gods. there is nothing wrong with that or anything but I just don't think it's the case

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@Claudius: As much as I hate "Resurrection" so I normally won't even bother commenting, but in this case I'd say this was done for pure efficiency, as the facehuggers attach themselfes to anything that's close to a face, wherever they find the easiest way into their host's bodies. Other than that I'd say it was done for a more horrifying visual impact, with no big ideas behind it. @Custodian: Why do you have to keep going on about this? Indeed, it's been discussed many times over. The statue is an exact depiction of an Engineer's head, as much or as little human-like as you want it to be. Humans have built statues to celebrate their own kind and indeed, there's also a mural in the ampule room that looks like they are in fact worshipping whatever that creature is. Maybe after all they just think they're greater than them, or it's like what I still believe, they have created the xenomorphs in one way or another...
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I hate to state the obvious, but the xenomorphs are simply not gods!!! I feel like I'm in the Emperor's New Clothes! What artificial thinking ever came up with this preposterous idea. Take one look at them. To be Gods, they would have to be superingtellegent or creative enough to make up for the lack of intelligence and these xenomorphs are neither intelligent or creative, they are only lethal and destructive. The only major god that is destructive is Shiva, and Shiva is intelligent. The xenomorphs are more like insects than Gods! Lets not waste one more moment's time with this left-base notion. It just doesn't possess the ring of truth to it.
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I couldn't agree more. IMO there's nothing god-like about the xenomorphs as we know them, although in Dan O'Bannon's original script they were meant to be portrayed as far more sophisticated creatures with a vast cultural background and ceremonial murals, etc... But that's not what made it onto the silver screen. I wouldn't want to say whether that's a good or a bad thing.
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Ok forget that last paragraph in my last comment, and since I'm not so much into editing, I'll leave it as it is. What I'd like to add is that I do very much prefer the xenomorphs to always be what they are, keeping their very attributes and appearance we all love so much. Does anyone of you guys seriously want to see them as gods? What are gods to you? Is it not the total lack of 'personality' and the fact that we know so very little about them, that made them such mysterious and horrifying creatures in the first place? Do you want to see them now go about their every-day lifes, worshipping their creations... discussing leadership in bars over a pint of black goo? The more we'd learn about them, the more we'd sympathise with them and as a result I'd see the [i]entire franchise[/i] fall apart!!
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Is it me or does Custodian ponder wayyyy too much about a movie. If he takes it too seriously we'll have to build a movie set for him with a tire swing and a couch. To me there's nothing "god-like" about them either. Just because they use these horrific creatures doesnt mean they worship them common pull your head out of the sand. The Engineers probably worship a being that looks like them. The "HUMAN LOOK" could just be the so called intelligent design. Ridley could make it different though b/c he loves to trick us and get our blood pumping.

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Well in a sense their are intelligent. I guess you could call them tactical instead but you know, but yeah, they shouldn't ever be considered as Gods

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claudius
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hey guys why i consider xenomorph as gods;my example on earth we have bacteria (exist for 4 5 bilion years ),but we have using bacteria on war (chimical war or biological)or modificate bacteria to be nocive in laborat,they are for ever with us they are our gods. why necesary engineers make xenomorph ,what they are evoluted from xenomorph and use like us bacteria???he have evolution from bacteria
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It's called instinct. If anything beyond that, they're 'streetwise' but that's as far as it goes for me. They're at the bottom of the hierarchy and that goes for all stages of their lifecycle. Mere tools, that's what they are, far from gods by any definition...
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. "Not god, like the one that people believe in and pray to, but a creator. The being who created the engineers. Don't expect him to be a merciful god."
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humans exist ten milions on earth but bacteria are for bilions ,you don t kill bacteria from your body because you will die, they are gods and gods never die
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and one thing this universe survive because xenomoph have a perfect design, like a tribute you must to introduce xenomoph in paradise but something we have been not seen in the 5 movie,something fresh and how you can make this ,like introduce xenomoph as gods
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Oh, I kinda forgot I'd posted this thread. To those of you who 'are allowed to think' well done. To the rest, "Poo poo!" is not the way of intelligent debate. :)
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^^ Now that's what I'd call a truly intelligent contribution.^^ ...glad you're setting yourself a certain standard here.
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I think the Xenos are like God's crumbs, not random but still particles of a much higher thinking, partially if not outright fabricated by something with way too much influence over life and how it functions. I think this is where things are going, an amplification of our own tendency to arrogance and over reaching, on an incomprehensible scale. The symbolism in the ampule room is baffling, I think custodian is just wondering about it here.
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I partially agree with Major Noob, apart from seeing it as an [i]amplification[/i] of a tendency. In [b]Prometheus[/b] I haven't seen anything that I wouldn't have seen in today's society, to even larger extends and expressed through far more arrogant behaviour. However, if that's what Custodian really wanted to say, then I don't think it came across very well. But one thing I'd like to add: Considering it [i]was[/i] Lindelof inserting that part into Spaiths' script and if that meant taking away a god-like quality from the xenomorphs (which I'm not sure Spaiths ever intended to do) then I'd say that's a good change. I'd hate to see anything sophisticated being planted into the original xenomorph's raw, simplistic, instinctive character. Like I said before, it would kill all the fascination and admiration I had for those beings in all these years. Therefore, I'm glad that Spaiths, Lindelof and Scott introduced a different thread and new symbolism to achieve that. Needless to say that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and have the freedom to choose what to believe in. So this is just my opinion on this.
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Claudius, bacterial and not creative and are certainly not intelligent. It is not logical to think of them as gods in any sense of the word. Cusodian, I am willing to have an intelligent discussion with anyone here but there are some arguments that are outside the realm of common sense or logic that are very hard to take seriously. Let us not waste this forum in the illogical when there are plenty of rational ideas worth discussing, yes?
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if you are so smart nostromo001 why you don t make a plot for paradise an what its happen there i want to see how do you want to make this movie and wat to containt . if you do this you will not waste this forum in the illogical you will do rational ideas worth discussing!!!

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