What Happened to the Engineers on LV_223?

I love this film; but I see a recut in the making. Perhaps I merely filled in the blanks; but when David is described by his holographic creator that he has no soul - that is the true quest, Every character is searching.

ok but that doesn't expalin one of the dead engineers having had his stomach blown out..Here's my theory, it's pretty close to Antonio77's except that the prot-xenomorph somehow got out of control due to the goo in addition to it having an effect on the SJ'S....judging from the last SJ who keels over and gets decapitated, they were obviously running from something...this "something" is what happened 2000 years ago and interrupted the plans for the military humanoids to destroy earth..

there was another door behind the pile of bodies that fifield and millburn found. anyone knows whats behind that door? and why the bodies were piled infront of it?

OK....can some please fill me in: 1. what scared the engineers 2000 years ago? 2. how could there be paintings or sculptures of 'Aliens" before they where made? 3.what was that green egg shaped crystal thing they where looking at? 4. who makes the alien eggs on the ship in Alien? 5. the engineer....died away from the ship out of the seat...then who is the engineer in the seat on the ship in alien? thanks

I tend to agree that all have been killed at this installation. We also are told there are four or so more temples for lack of a better word. We do not know what is in them as we never made it that far. After reading the posts above and having my own thoughts about the holograms and pile of bodies I now wonder why at the end of the film we see a new alien emerge. Is this a setup for potential return to this location in a future movie? Maybe to see what happened to the crew of Prometheus?

Prenihility... David seems to be key to this plot in so many ways. From the start we see him eating with no other humans around so he clearly has a Pinocchio or Data the android complex. He seriously wants to emulate if not become human. Further, we see David watching and mimicking Lawrence of Arabia, the most empathetic British officer in history. In spite of these efforts though, David has no trouble experimenting with the super goo and giving a taste to one of his ship-mates. David has a singular loyalty to his 'father' and any means justifies the ends here. The really curious bit for me was when the group wakes up the Engineer. He (the Engineer) seemed surprised to have company but it was only when he [b]hears David speaking his language[/b], or something close to it that he really bugs out and starts cleaning house.

The goo isn't always a deadly weapon of mass destruction. . . I'm assuming it acted that way as Humans came into contact with the Ampule Room and not Engineers. When those Engineers running from something would've gone in there, I doubt they would of died by means of the death goo.

The goo that the Engineer drinks at the beginning is not just goo. It looks like goo and something crystalline. I'm guessing that green crystal that Holloway saw also goes into the cup to do what it did to the first sacrificial Engineer. I also read somewhere that this Chamber is a monument to the Engineer's work on humanity, and all the vases on the ground are samples of updates over time to human genome. In that context, one reasonable assumption is that one of the old vases broke containment (being thousands or millions of years old) and caused the outbreak.

1. what scared the engineers 2000 years ago? They where flying from the infested Engeener. The one who fell. He was probably, like Milburn, very powerfull etc. 2. how could there be paintings or sculptures of 'Aliens" before they where made? They where already existing millions years ago in a very prooch shape. 3.what was that green egg shaped crystal thing they where looking at? I think the Engeeners found a first Xenos trace one day, and exploited it to refine it into a more deadly weapon. The cristal is this first Xenos, found in a cristalin prison... Like mosquitoes containing dinosaurus DNA in our world, inprisoned in old amber. 4. who makes the alien eggs on the ship in Alien? An old Xenos shape ? Looks more ancient than the one in the jarres of the Prometheus big room. 5. the engineer....died away from the ship out of the seat...then who is the engineer in the seat on the ship in alien? Alien 1 and Promehteus do not take place in the same planet...

You know what I have noticed on these forums? People who like the movie are in general better spellers than those who bash it. In other words, the fans are smarter :P

Yes, it is perfectly plausible that what happened was simply an accident that got out of control.

Why, having seen the movie,is anyone asking this question ?

i just want to know if the deacon is seen the first alien and if not if there is any trace of its body

>>What Happened to the Engineers on LV_223? They were visited by Predators.

Ebola virus with teeth. 'Nuf said.

After reading all the posts, i agree the most with Master Jo. I believe that the Xenomorphs already existed a long time before and they were found and experiment on by the Engineers. That crystal in front of the Xeno mural may just have some kind of fossilized pre-historic Xeno inside. The Engineers found them to be creatures with remarkable and unique carachteristics and started engeneering on them. Through their experiences and combinations they were able to come up with a couple of extraordinary substances, both in form of a black goo. One of the goo, more concentrated on the creatures acid blood, would cause the desintegration of an individual if he ingested it. the other, more consistent on the creatures agression and adaptability to anything, would interact with any life form that got in contact with it, causing this life form to act as an host for it to grow and adapt/evolve/change into something diffrent, more agressive and with unique carachteristics. The first goo, after more research started to be used by Engineers to dissolve themselves molecularly, in order to create life from thei own DNA. The second goo, was used to create species/weapons of mass destruction. With its unique composition, the Xeno became sort of Idolized and worshipede by some, because it would allow the creation of live and hated by others because of leading to the creation of very dangerous Bio-Weapons. I think what happened later was that something went wrong and it was decided to stop the experiments with the species and exterminate what was left of them, as it was too dangerous and many lives had been lost in the process. But a group of Engineeres didn't accept that too well, they were sort of "Satanic", they worshiped the Xeno as a "devil" for its capability of both life and mainly death! So, this group, retired to a close by moon, established a base, and continued experimenting, trying to recreate the original Xeno, inspired by murals they made of it. After many attempts they managed to replicate it, and started gathering large amount of liquified Xeno goo, stocked in urns. Their goal would be to unleash the Xenos in Earth to exterminate humans, as a revenge on their Elders who created life on Earth from the creature and then ordered its execution. For a Satanic group this would be like unleashing the Devil. Meanwhile, they were too confident on their experiments and somehow one of the creatures broke free and started to kill them all, they didn't even defend themselves, some just ran in fear as they wouldn't confront their "God/Idol". The two Engineers that went in the safe room, probably ingested the goo and dissolved, that's why no remains ere found. the others with head explosions must have had some direct contact with the changing Dna goo.

My guess is that maybe a couple of the other engineers fell prey to the goo and may have turned into Xenos, or they could have ended up like Fifield and killed their comrades.

I wanted to add to this discussion, On page 6 a couple people pointed out that the awoken engineer was not hostile till david said something to him. During the movies openning scene david was told what to say by somebody else and practiced it while everyone was still sleeping. There is someone linked with david that knew exactly what was going to happen. This also explains why david was on such a mission to open rooms without thinking about the other safety first. Somebody deffinitily knew about what was going to happen. I want to go see the movie again because I remember there being a video of the guy speaking to David about the rehearsal.

So essentially the last Engineer that was alive in LV223 was left for dead, we have so far not yet seen any weaponry used by these Engineers except the bio weapon / mysterious liquid, humans have guns, fire, blades, why not such an advanced race? And if they were doing such dangerous work why would there not be precautions like armed security to protect researchers from any mistake life that happen to be generated, obviously the life forms they generate is no joke, they are extremely dangerous, so why no security? Their technology seem to be very organic, from the suits they wear to their ships and buildings, so they don't believe is weapons like guns? Like space hippies?? So back to the question, if you invest any amount of resources into building those structures on LV223, why are they not protected. The only precaution there seems to be the killer doors, hologram records, and a sign outside - the skull. Maybe more signs, David didn't translate those that bugger! He said "Oops" He knew what was inside didn't he. I love the movie, but the more I think about it, some of it makes sense in a profound way but some of it just doesn't.

Could it possibly be that the engineers are basically our equivalent to ancient Egyptians but because they live on a different planet they simply developed differently. You will not be or look the same if you grew up in Asia in that climate with the resources in Asia as you would in Africa in its climate with its resources. The goo was not active unless it was exposed to light so it may have been sterile and under control. It wasn't until the scientist put their flashlights on to it did it react. Similarly to how the original Engineer we saw drank the black goo on "earth" and seemed surprised it was bubbling but because it had never done that before and my belief is he wasn't planning on dieing he simply drank it anyway and ended up disintegrating. In the science where the memory or hologram of past events was shown it did seem as though they were simply running, not frantically at all, but doing a military run to a new location. They did close the door and the one Engineer and of course the pile of Engineers at another entrance didn't quite make it, but that isn't to say that because he was the only one who was infected, it appears in that section they all were exposed just some made it to a more sterile area I am assuming and others didn't. Also none of the disintegrated or exploded they simply died. This proves that light is really reactive with the black goo and that is what causes the monster like crazed reaction in the person it infects. But the goo infection isn't consistent. When one is exposed outright to it by ingesting it they in the case of humans they turn into a monster, but when a thing or person carrying the black goo carries it on to the next person they simply die without having transforming into a monster. This isn't the case with he Engineers when they are exposed they die in an explosive manner. But, but the Engineer who died at the end and was exposed to the goo by the squid did not explode and light, as well as, the goo was everywhere and that was weird to me. It was almost like his blood was the black goo which made no sense as if he was impregnated with the alien like creature he would still bleed his own blood wouldn't he? Another thing that bothered me was that the Engineers probably didn't know death or understand it. They seemed to be very cocky and felt nothing could hurt them, that didn't fear death. Even when the squid had started to wrap his tentacles around the Engineer in the end he didn't have fear in his face and even dead he didn't appear to be defeated. My thoughts are they were testing the black goo and made the atmosphere earth like because they may have thought it was simply the atmosphere that made the goo reactive and not light. They were testing out what happened to their friend. Another point was that the mural and carving looked like what the squid, Engineer, Shaw and Holloway created through subsequent impregnation of host that generally would not bear children. It seemed to be a foreshadowing on their part of what was to come or maybe what they wanted to create. It didn't seem as though they were unaware that this thing could be created and literally had it carved into metal so it was significant, more significant than any of them and their own children. Whether or not they wanted to destroy Earth is unknown. Obviously the mission was abandoned and he was the one who was left possible for a different purpose inside the mission similar to the first engineer. But there were many ships that did not launch which is even more frustrating that they were so giddy to get information and all of that when there was so much more to explore.....much much more and they died over nothing. They captain even knew that the ship was multilayered had many avenues they were just in one area so it was weird that they were so short sided. But it did seem as though Weyland was desperate and just wanted to get there and felt though these people were irresponsible fools they would at least find something and if nothing else David was there and new what his mission was and would carry out that mission. The last point is that David obviously had a hidden agenda to prove he was human, that he had emotions even when it was unnecessary to do so. He kept a lot from the other crew even the green goo which happened to be digital in nature allowing him to quickly figure out how to open the doors using the goo. Why when he opened the door or type in the code it showed a flashback sequence is unknown. Why would that even be a function? One last thing was when they went to speak to the Engineer he was obviously going to knock them out or kill them and leave. He is by all means a soldier and to be surrounded by a group he isn't very familiar with, think of our military and what their response would be. It would probably be very similar. The arrogance of this team to think they deserved the answers of the universe and that their hope was that any one Engineer they found would have it which was ludicrous and above that they could just approach them in that ambush way on their property in a place that was obviously top secret was just mind boggling. Shaw is now on a quest to find answers, it does show that humans are resilient because we believe in or own ingenuity to solve problems but what they forget is that we are a small player in a big world. Why do you think you won't just simply be killed and experimented on or discarded. Your life is not as important to everyone else as it is to you. And I understand they saw these people as Gods and creators and looked for benevolence and was disappointed when one attacked them. It is just frustration at how unrealistically frail yet unrealistically strong this group's beliefs are. So Shaw is going to go and find answers and I hope in the sequel for movie sake she does but in real life there is no possible way of deciphering why she gives up on Earth, its like they are so blinded by the God concept they forget that these Engineers are man on a different plant and I don't care what military man you meet here on Earth he does not have the answers of life for you. That doesn't mean give up it just means that the answer wasn't there.