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NineteenHundred
MemberOvomorphDecember 28, 2011Over the last week I have been reading comments in the highest viewed trailers for the film on YouTube. (Especially the one with 4 million views.)
I noticed something very ... unfortunate. Many people are claiming that Prometheus is copying other films or games like Halo, Dead Space, Event Horizon and Avatar. And on this basis they claim the film looks and will be crap. I also found people saying that it doesn't matter that Ridley Scott is directing and it will be bad regardless.
As you all should know, these people are of course wrong. If this was only a few people saying such nonsense I wouldn't care, but about every 3rd comment is very harsh and negative. I am betting that most of them are very young, maybe about 10-13 years old.
I would love to know any of your thoughts on this matter.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sftuxbvGwiU]Here is the highest viewed trailer[/url]
(I am 19 years old by the way and I mean no offence to anyone here around the age of 10-13.)
December 28, 2011
this is sad, indeed but i don't think the problem is 10-13 year olds, i am 14 and think of myself mature for my age and i am always around by people my age who are.....mostly stupid. a 10-13 year old would not say something looks like or is ripping off something else, they just like things exploding on the screen, why do you think they still bye the same army game every year? its because they are stupid and don't know/care that its the same game they had last year. and they would not claim something to be ripping off of halo, if they were then they would be saying how halo rips off aliens and star-ship troopers (a lot) so the problem is not the younger audiences, its "EVERYONE" because lets face it, people are REALLY stupid but i think we should all ignore negativity like that, (until the movie comes out) and just keep doing what we do. i am also not saying that we should think Prometheus will be the best thing ever because we have no way of knowing, i think we should look at in neutrally until it is out for us to decide what we think.
December 28, 2011
@danrald
No, I'm reading comments by MANY people on YouTube regarding the Prometheus trailer. Basically many people don't like it and that worries me.
December 28, 2011
danrald, he thinks that the negative comments left on the trailers are from 10-13 year olds.
December 28, 2011
not to sound like a bad person but whenever a movie that i am looking forward to is coming out, deep down i hope it does not do good or does not get popular. that's a bad thing to hope and i always feel selfish about thinking that but after what happened with avatar (i was talking about it three months before it came out, and then everyone saw it and loved it and it was not "my thing" anymore) i always hope that. but when that did happen like with Scott pilgrim, i was glad that nobody knew what it was so i could go and tell them about it but now movies like that will not be made that much anymore. but with Prometheus that feeling has passed and i hope this new movie brings a new audience to the original movies (or at least the first two lol)
December 28, 2011
I'm with danrald. Most of the comments are from young kids. The dead giveaway is the mentioning of Halo and Dead Space
But it shows you how little of knowledge they have. I have played Halo. It's clearly a nod to the alien films. From the magazine count on the gun to the ship's design in the first stage. Also, Bungie (makers of Halo) clearly stated that Halo was a nod to Aliens along with other favorite sci-fi films.
I wouldn't care what people say. This movie is going to do BIG numbers. Those from our generation and jumping around in our seats due to Ridley Scott's return to the franchise. We are the ones that matter because we know about a film created in the 70s that started this whole thing. Only a few of the young generation will know about this. This isn't Michael Bay on Transformers with a burning desire to get young kids to pester their parents to buy them anything Transformers. This is for us grown folks who grew up with the franchise.
December 28, 2011
i find that a little hurtful AnubisChe :( like i said i am 14 and love movies as an art and as much as most children my age are stupid you cant ignore them, just like the comic book crash and the soon to be video game crash, if you ignore the young then there will be nobody to keep the fire burning, that might sound a little preachy but its true. what happens when we all die? the alien films will just be forgotten trash? i hope not :(
December 29, 2011
I see that you have been commenting and trying to make them think otherwise, it won't work, don't waste your typing strength with those lower life forms (ironic how I go back and forth from defending them to being against them lol) but yeah don't bother :(
December 29, 2011
It's very easy for naive adolescents - and anyone for that matter - to write off as plagiarised a film that is comprised of many scenes with spacesuits, barren landscapes and malevolent aliens.
[i]Halo[/i] and its contemporaries did not invent the concepts illustrated in the trailer - and nor did [i]Alien[/i] for that matter.
Their remarks are merely an attempt to demonstrate their capability to identify congruent things - nothing more - and should be taken as just that: ignorant remarks.
IMO, their familiarity with similar concepts gives them a good grounding to immerse themselves in this other thing, and thereby perhaps extend their appreciation of the genre and the rest of of the [i]Alien[/i] cannon.
For the diehard fanboys like us, who cares what Joe Public thinks. We just want our desires to be fulfilled - even if the film is a commercial disaster.
December 29, 2011
It's very easy for naive adolescents - and anyone for that matter - to write off as plagiarised a film that is comprised of many scenes with spacesuits, barren landscapes and malevolent aliens.
[i]Halo[/i] and its contemporaries did not invent the concepts illustrated in the trailer - and nor did [i]Alien[/i] for that matter.
Their remarks are merely an attempt to demonstrate their capability to identify congruent things - nothing more - and should be taken as just ignorant remarks.
IMO, their familiarity with similar concepts gives them a good grounding to immerse themselves in this other thing, and thereby perhaps extend their appreciation of the genre and the rest of of the [i]Alien[/i] cannon.
For the diehard fanboys like us, who cares what Joe Public thinks. We just want our desires to be fulfilled - even if the film is a commercial disaster.
December 29, 2011
NineteenHundred, tell them to read this site if they think the movie is going to be bad.. lol.
and Invaderzim42.. well what can you say.. the 14 year old have it made with all of the special effects of today. You look at movies like Dune, or even go back further to the original "The Thing from Another World" or "The Day the Earth Stood Still" from the 50s, they have nothing to compare to todays movie making techinques. But the great sci-fis are about ideas, which makes them timeless.
December 29, 2011
think of it this way,
when ALIEN was released in 1979,
it got far more negative reviews than it did positive ones
ALIEN seemed to get better with age,
i wouldn't surprise me if some of the um " film critics " look back
on ALIEN, and how they trashed it, and realized (too late) that they
misjudged this great film
as far are the haters on Youtube,
let them hate all they like. if it irritates them, then so be it
i'd rather see PROMETHEUS in a theater full of adults,
then view it with a theater full of A.D.D. texting "Twi-hards"
who would be better suited to see a stupid Michael Bay production
i'm hoping that Scott goes against the grain here,
makes a film that is pensive as it is thrilling / horrific,
which would bore the tears out of most (not all) the "tweens"
while keeping an older audience on the edges of our seats
which is why an NC-17 would be the PERFECT rating,
in regards to securing the perfect target audience,
not gonna happen that way, but at least i can dream
December 29, 2011
[i]Terminator Salvation[/i] should be a lesson for all studios not to try and sell dark science-fiction under a 12A or PG13 rating. It suppresses the tone and underlying story to its own detriment. The irony is that every 12 year-old would have somehow watched the R-rated version anyway! OK maybe not at the theatre but certainly on DVD at their friend's house or with big brother.
I read somewhere (probably on this site) there will be a PG13 and an R version. Coming from the UK, I can't exactly quantify the gulf between those two ratings but I'm pretty sure the same film would have completely different complexions, hence you'd leave the viewing with completely different experiences.
Look forward to learning more about how the dual rated versions will work in practice with respect to distribution and showing - perhaps the R version will be reserved for the DVD offering.
December 29, 2011
I'll reserve judgement of the film until i've seen it. As far as I'm concerned there are no guarantees at all that this film will be anywhere near as good as good as Alien. But with Scott at the helm you expect it to have half a chance of working very well. It's got a lot to live up to and people are clearly expecting a lot from this film. I hope they don't try to hard on this and try to be too clever for their own good. I'm quite concerned about lindelof as Lost turned out to be complete tripe in the end. I fear an over complicated and contrived plot line with the story trying to be too clever.
December 29, 2011
i don't see most of the comments being negative actually.....the majority are looking forward....just a few idiots who have no clue what the plot is about....I think Prometheus is gonna be very critically acclaimed....i don't think it's gonna break any records at the box office....but it won't flop either....but I do also slightly fear a contrived over complicated plot....well' see?....it will take a lot to ruin this movie for me!
December 29, 2011
All those "hate" commentaries about Prometheus and STUPID comparisons to Halo, Avatar (what?) make me really worry about the rating of movie. I mean, if it's PG-13, we all will have to sit near those little idiots with their popcorns and complaining about how bad this is going to be. It's a torture.
December 29, 2011
Think positively about this. All this negative stuff might convince FOX to concentrate on a higher viewer rating (say 18s) which is what Scott would like therefore giving it a much more Alien type feel to it and allow Scott allow his imagination to flow onto the screen
December 29, 2011
Nah, I don't think that 18 rating would be good. 16 is fine. I'm 16myself & I love Alien and such stuff since my childhood and I'd like to see it on cinema.
December 29, 2011
"Petty Juvenile Jealousy From people With No Understanding Or Appreciation For The Art Of Film Making And All Of The Many Different Associated Art Forms that Go into making an exciting film, Film Making is massive collaborative method."
That's all I can think of to say about the thread title!
LOL