David Securely Reported to Weyland-Yutani in the Novel

Kethol
MemberChestbursterJune 16, 2017I don't think this has been mentioned here yet, but there is another difference at the end of the novelization vs the movie.
In the film David sends a message to Weyland-Yutani as Walter, reporting the accidental deaths of the entire crew and stating the mission is continuing on to Origae 6. He would have already studied information in the ships computer by this point and know every detail about the mission, details about the company, et cetera.
In the novel it is different. David asks Mother to open a secure channel to Weyland-Yutani headquarters on Earth using secure hailing code David 31822-B. Mother says it will take some time to establish a link so what he reports is not in the book.
It's an interesting twist that hints one of Weyland's research divisions, one that actually knew what Weyland was really going there for, may still be active on Earth. Prometheus implied David had authority over the real mission, and was the only one who knew what was really going on, other than Weyland himself, so it makes sense that secure channels would have been set up for reports.
Had they left that in the movie, it would have been a more direct link to Ash's mission to get the Nostromo crew to LV-426 and bring a xeno back to the secret research division.
It's not in real time. The signal will take years to get to the destination. There are all kinds of theoretical ways signals can be sent light years away that are used in sci-fi - gravitational waves, modulated neutrino signals, laser pulses, et cetera. We can do it with radio or laser signals right now.
Mother replied to David that she will have to wait to 'establish a link through numerous sub relays and wait for advantageous stellar conditions'... implying they had communications stations spaced out across the region so signal could be received and amplified from one to another. It will still take many years to get there.
It does seem indeed they are going the route that will show how the company knows about the Xenomorph from the next movie... it also appears they could be going the route that AI will play a large role in the Franchise and Company.
"I cant understand how they able to communicate to world which is light years away. No cable no signal no drones nothing able to do that."
Good point but this is Sci-Fi and so by the same Token, we have to Question how the Ships even got that far out and break the Speed of Light anyway.
So if a Ship can do it, so can a Signal and we can transmit Data/Signals on Earth and Local Space faster than we can send any current Probes or Ships/Satellites etc.
When i click post on this topic it will appear within like a second, yet the Server is maybe 2000 miles or so from where i am, its the same as NASA and talk Live to those on the Space Station or TWO people on Opposite sides of the World, who will talk Live with literally Milli Seconds apart from when one person talks and the other hears it... so this Travels faster than the Speed of Sound....
Someone from the USA can Cell Phone Call someone from the Middle East and so over 7'000 miles or over 9X Speed of Sound and yet be speaking to them as clear as if they was in the same room.
So its not beyond the realms of Sci Fi that communications can travel faster than the actual Ships Can. Even though yes Sending a Message Many Lights years would take a very very long time... but then even the fastest Probe/Space Mission launched would take vastly longer to cover the same distance.
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I think you may not understand. There was no "real time" communication. David sent a one-way message to Weyland-Yutani. It will take several years to reach them.
Radio waves, laser pulses, or gravitational waves travel at the speed of light in space. If we sent a message using any of those forms of communication to our nearest star it would take about 4 years to get there. If a reply was sent from their back to Earth it would take another 4 years to get here. Understand?
Intriguing, I wonder who is on the other side of the line and in charge on Weyland Co.?, it is plain that that the ghoulish Weyland is dead. So?
The Weyland company is massive, with many divisions. The Prometheus expedition was a secret, so only a classified division would have known about it. In an earlier version of the Prometheus script, Weyland agreed to fund the expedition, but he wanted all rights to any technology they would find for his company. He was specifically interested in terraforming technology.
In the movie, Weyland was dying and was more focused on extending his life, so I think he would have definitely had a biotechnology team waiting to get that tech to exploit and market. They did not know what they were going to find though. It could have been any type of technology, including weaponry, so they would have been prepared for anything.
Just speculation, but David, as Weyland's second in command so to speak, would have had authority to direct that secret division on Weyland's behalf. I expect David was probably sending secure status reports of the experiments he was doing on Shaw and Holloway back to the secret division as well.
@Kethol
Kethol I see on your topic another hole, David hates the human being and the Engineers, what a mess this is?, a big contradiction in the story-line.
Is there another conspiratorial "Replicant" infiltrated in Weyland Co?, this is the only thing that could make sense. Do you understand what I mean?
It's not a contradiction or plot hole if it was not even in the movie. In Covenant, he sent a transmission to Weyland as Walter.
Even had they used that in the movie, it would have worked perfectly in the overall story, since it was already set up that a division of the company already knew about the Alien and wanted it. Ash was the conspiratorial android carrying out their (or possibly David's) orders in Alien.
Also, David keeping communication to that division of the company open could be a huge advantage for him in the future, considering his ultimate goal. He can tell them as much or as little as he wants them to know. In the time of Alien, WT may not have understood there was a risk of the Alien completely wiping out all humanity on Earth. That's not exactly something David would have a problem with :)
Indeed having David only giving so much information... to wet the Greedy Company Execs Appetite where in actual Fact what he keeps away from them is the True Nature of his Creation.
So the Company in effect discover a Pandoras Box
I think this is the way to go... so David lures the company in knowing that with this limited knowledge Davids creation would unleash Hell on them and be a Trojan Horse of Sorts.
But i do think RS is going for a AI involvement as far as underhanded tactics and using Mankind as Pawns.
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If I remember well is under security code David 73694-B on the movie. In the novel is code David 31822-B, but anyway, David's code is still active for some reason.
It was Walter's security code David gave in the movie. David was impersonating him.
"…hopefully this transmission will reach you in the (network of relays?) in 1.36 years. This is Walter signing off, security code 31564-M."
@Kethol: No the other one: David to MOTHER: Use security code David 73694-B.
MOTHER: Welcome. How may I help you?
I see, you are talking about the code David used to access the passenger hold. I'm talking about the security codes David used when the transmission report was sent back to Weyland-Yutani in the book vs the movie. That transmission is what this thread is about.
No, Everything is related, MOTHER recognizes the special order from David (first one): then Weyland is behind it. do You understand me?
Yes, I get it, but I don't think you understand me :)
I was simply pointing out the difference in the MESSAGE SENT at the end of the novelization vs the movie. That's all. Carry on.
I haven't finished the novel yet, but it seems like the novel is heading in the direction that David could have interfered with the Covenant mission as a whole. I am not going into detail on this idea that I think, but I did talk about it in another recent thread.
I totally think David is in control of Weyland Co. He may not be in the office, but he is making the big decisions. Well, at least the big decisions which affect him. Everything else he could care less about. Basically, this transmission would show that David has some mighty power at Weyland Co. I do think, but don't know, that David actually altered the Covenant mission with Mother so that it would intercept the planet he is on. I mean, what are the chances that a perfectly habitable planet would pass by the planet David is on, which apparently was home to some "Engineers", which would also be even more perfectly habitable than the planet the Covenant crew is on the way to. And another thing, the Covenant is FULL OF HYPERSLEEPING COLONISTS! We all know from the movie that David likes to do experiments, so now he has a whole ship of people to play with however he chooses. I have no doubt that the Covenant ship with David in control will go to Origae 6, but I think the planet is not what the colonists thought it would be because of David's influence on the Covenant mission.
@BigDave
BigDave said "Good point but this is Sci-Fi and so by the same Token, we have to Question how the Ships even got that far out and break the Speed of Light anyway."
We do have technological which is being argued among scientists and is constantly being experimented on today which some say from testing can go 1.2 times the speed of light. This was done in a test that wasn't trying to see how fast it could go either. NASA recently ran a test on that "engine" and found out it does produce thrust. The problem with it is that apparently nobody understands how it produces thrust. It just does. The creator of the engine seems like he understands it, but many other people can't seem to figure it out. I guess this is why it is still being testing. Let's say it doesn't go faster than lightspeed as some tests have shown and instead we go by what the inventor says on how fast it can go. With current technology, it would take about 6 months to get to Mars if taken the shortest route. With this new engine, it would cut that time into about half the time (according to the inventor). I hope NASA starts investing in this "engine" called Em-Drive for short.
If Mother had awoken the Covenant crew because of a discovery of an unknown transmission, that theory (that David caused the Covenant diversion) would make sense. But the Covenant only came across the message because a random stellar event forced the crew to be awakened to make repairs. Then they then accidentally came across the message.
If those two random events had never happened, they would not have known about the mystery planet. I can't see any way David orchestrated the stellar energy blast that hit the Covenant.
They did leave the open question as to why, after all their scans looking for a prime planet to colonize, WU completely missed this paradise planet. That part seems odd. That almost seems like someone at WU did not want them anywhere near this system.