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Alien Franchise Rule Book: for Members by Members

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Alien Franchise Rule Book: for Members by Members

“The Scified Alien Covenant Unified Rule Book for Future Movies in the Alien Franchise”

I ran this thread from 23-30 March. I may have edited to maintain flow so I hope it somewhat orderly.

I would first like to thank contributors alphabetically: Apex_Predator, BigDave,, Blackwinter-witchchadsbrothermatt, Dk, Grinning & Dropping Linen, IRaptus, LV226, ninXeno426, and Parkerparrot

 

Here is the original link: http://www.alien-covenant.com/topic/43788

Rules in no particular order:

  1. to have characters written and developed well with no wishy washy whimsical religious zealots.
  2. Do not put too much emphasis on technology like holograms and such.
  3. No romance whatsoever in any alien movie.
  4. No stupid characters such as fifield and milburn (posted X 2)
  5. No time travel (mentioned X 4)
  6. Put Chris and BigDave on the pay roll as consultants/writers with possible cameos. (Dave chose a mutated Jabba)
  7. No more than 3 rewrites of the script. Pick an idea, flesh it out, and make the best version of that idea possible rather than trying to incorporate old versions into some new vision by some new writer. (mentioned X 2)
  8. there is no place for corny over the top cheesy/corny dialog and sequences in this film universe (aka anything similar to Resurrection would be banned)
  9. No predators in the alien film universe, they are both cool but tonally too different to share a film and it be worthy of either,,save that stuff for the comic books (mentioned X 2)
  10. not everything has to be explained ,keep some mystery in this universe so we have something our minds can run wild with (mentioned X 2)
  11. NEVER turn it into an Avengers where our protaginists are just taking our hordes after hordes, it would be silly....even though Aliens went with the action/war vibe it still kept some of the bleak tone and impending doom and terror
  12. Ripley is done, done done never again shoehorn her into a sequel or prequel 
  13. Keep the main focus on morphing and mutating as the genesis of the species but still allow an occasional queen ...there is just more ghastly horror to play with when it comes to mutation, but the queen IMO is limited, she looks good our hero fights her thats it, having her on the screen dosnt really open up any storytelling doors for us other than a cool action scene
  14. Im fine with tech but make it look used or serviceable, if its too "bright and shiny" it takes away the tone and feel of the movie
  15. I do not ever want to see Weyland Yutani weaponize the xenomorph.If you want to know why,just play Colonial Marines.Enough said 
  16. R rating only (mentioned X 2)
  17. No main character kids
  18. Defined chest-burster gestation period(s). To paraphrase, consistent time lines yet allow some wiggle room for hosts with mentioned physical conditions that may explain gestation time variations.
  19. Xenos not used as cannon-fodder that run around in open spaces, or broad daylight; Ambush/stalking predator only.
  20. No quotes from Ripley as a fanboy nod to her like 'that's not exactly out of the manual' or 'get away from her, you bitch'.
  21. Stay true to H.R Giger and his nightmareish world and design.
  22. No comedy. (Dark humor is OK here and there but not to the extent of Resurrection)
  23. Never, ever again a newborn or anything that resembles that abomination. (I am fine with neomorphs though..) (mentioned X 2)
  24. No "up in the blue, infantile dopehead" ideas in scripts or drafts like wooden planets ur sutch. Alien worlds yes, but please not stupid.
  25. No fan boy service other then set pieces and or details about the alien universe that serves to expand the world
  26. Never 100% CGI, always a mix of practical effects
  27. Dont rely on Ripley storyline
  28. Don’t have more than 2 years between movies.
  29. I just hope they have it all planned out A-Z even if we dont see every part of A-Z as long as they know what a A-Z would be and stick to things that wont contradict it, and so also to tidy up the mess that has been left before.
  30. Projectile weapons preferred, yet allow for Laser-based weapons as they are making steady progress with them in the real world
  31. NO stupid-looking weapons like the blue and orange (present-day Target-match pistols) weapons seen in PROMETHEUS. They looked like kid's toys.
  32. NO MORE FLAMETHROWERS!! At least not pre-assembled ones in the armory/ready-for-use ones like we saw in PROMETHEUS. It is the absolute height of mindless and suicidal stupidity to fire one aboard a starship, they're cliche`, have no real practical use aside from menacing an Alien, and the last thing you want is an alien running amok, on fire, acid bleeding from multiple and increasing places where it's skin has burned through/sloughed off, and setting even more of the ship on fire and burning holes in the ship all along its path.
  33. Do NOT even TRY to 'Star Trek It Up'...this is the ALIENverse, it has its own distinct feel, flavor and mien. There is NO Central Monolithic Unchallengeable Federation of Planets as The Prime Authority...and there NEVER will be. There are NO Government starships out 'patrolling the sector', and when you're between star systems, you're on your own.
  34. Characters should act and inter-relate like people do in reality, not by way of artificial/idealized 'Niceness'. Watch ALIEN for some great scenes between Ripley and Parker and their friction-points in personality
  35. People drink beer, some likely carry whisky/liquor flasks, they smoke, and have pin-ups all over the place. These are people, not Idealized Human Federation Citizens
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The flame thrower was good for Isolation, but they were a stretch for the movies. The torch in the Aliens final battle was believable since it was a tool but a flame thrower is akin to the exploding barrels carelessly lying about in games for players to shoot. I am so glad that rule passed- and fair and square. Haters can scrub the thread for proof! 

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Yeah the flamethrower was (excuse the pun) a hotly-contested issue. :D I think it all comes down to Cobbled-together/field-expedient units vs the Factory-fresh one we saw in PROMETHEUS. That clean,crisp and shining-new flamethrower just really struck the wrong chord.

Flamethrowers aboard a ship or any sealed environment pose some nasty problems. I picked hubby's brain for alternates, and he came up with a Liquid Nitrogen thrower/sprayer. He did point out that in it's own way it's actually MORE dangerous than a flamethrower but imposes no smoke/toxic fumes from burning upholstery and assorted other interior fittings, and the Nitrogen can be tapped from the atmo tanks. It also has the advantage of super-cooling/freezing any acid spill, which would be helpful in minimizing coincidental/collateral damages.

In any manner, trying to kill an Alien aboard a ship is going to be extremely problematic no matter what one tries as a weapon. Which is part of the beast's charm, after all. :D

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That's why Gordon Carrol suggested acid for blood,so they couldn't kill it onboard the Nostromo

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That one suggestion, yeah, a genius-moment and gave us such a uniquely problematic enemy :)

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BWW-

Two  part comment

1. I am a fan of Myth Busters and have a short excerpt about flame throwers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHB3JuID-rs

2. I read the article about pigs having human DNA added to them regarding organ transplants etc. That seems to bring up a question IDK that has been discussed: If a pig has human DNA, would it not grant "human" rights to said creatures? This might even be a BigDave question. In any case, it could make for an interesting story or movie. If you feel like it, you might consider posting a thread about it?

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Cool vid, ty for showing it to us! Point I just realized, the ones seen in ALIEN and PROMETHEUS (unsure about ALIENS) seem to be short-range, compressed-gas 'Flamers', instead of the flame-thrower using a liquid fuel. Either way, they're a weapon of last resort aboard a starship I think can be said.

The backstory about the non-Human crewmember does address the points about Human Rights. I'll be happy to post a thread about it!! TY for asking!!

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Blackwinter-witch

Thanks!

I always thought that part of good scifi wasn't necessarily tech but ultimately about the human condition. Give us a heads up when your book is close to completion. I would purchase with or without FOX anointing.

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Thank-You very much for your words!! They mean a lot, more than I can say, to be honest!I'm very glad to hear your desire to read my works!

I agree about the examination of the 'Human Condition' in sci-fi, especially when in the context of such a universe as ALIEN, where it is full of all manner of Darkness and Terrible Truths.

IF Fox annoints it, great. BUT if not, well this is mainly for the Fanbase, people like myself, yourself, and our fellow forum members here. So, one way or another, it will be published.

The Rough-raw is done, now it's time for me to do first-round Editing/continuity-checking and finish hammering the Epilogue into a better shape. It's coming along pretty well I'd say, it'd be quicker if I could devote full-time to it, but we cannot have everything we wish for in life :)

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Don't sweat it being rough and raw BlackWinter Witch.I've been donating a story here since January and it's far from perfect,but I'm happy to share it.Which reminds me I haven't updated it in a while,I oughta get back to it sooner rather than later.Just been so busy 

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Blackwinter-witch- I still watch Twilight Zone which is considered scifi and tons of those episodes are about the human condition- space age or present and sometimes have no amount of visions of the future and such. At the end of the day, it grabs the viewer/watcher and makes him/her think if that makes sense. It hopefully shakes one out of his/her comfort zone.

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Well, I still need to fix some errors caused by Dyslexia, and Feline Involvement, also it needs some work so as to not leave splinters in people's eyeballs. But TY for saying, and I can totally relate on trying to find time to Write!! I'll look up your works, or could I pester you for a link?

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Agreed, also Outer Limits is quite good for such storylines as well!

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I'm going to look for a link!Thanks BlackWater Witch!Agree on the Twilight Zone and the human condition dk.Yesterday I was Watching "The monsters are due on Maple Street"and it shows just how horrible and paranoid mankind can get when you turn off a few lights 

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Indeed. Outer Limits is cool. I also like the newer versions of both shows from the 80s-90s.

On an unrelated note-

T10-

Spoilers for AC are creeping in. I hope that the Trilobite Ten would be respectful not to drop any spoilers on this thread.

We all like to have fun and shoot the shit and get deep about some things, but anything spoilery would seem like a breech of conduct. If contributors have an inside track or juicy facts, please do not post it on this thread.

Staff is already tracking spoil sports- let us not be among those individuals.

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Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

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I certainly won't,you can count on that.Blackwinter witch,that above is the link(I hope)my story is in amongst many others.It can be pretty messy in there,i'm thinking about copy/pasting it all and giving it it's own thread 

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Gavin responded to my spoiler question. Pretty clear cut. Thank you.

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You're welcome and Ty for the Link :) Unfortunately it came up 404.

dk

I LOVE spoilers, BUT I know the majority do not. I won't post anything spoilery to be sure, I do not wish to harm my fellow fans with such inconsiderate releases of info.

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Damn!Lemme try again 

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404 for me too nin.

 

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