Alien: Earth and Alien: Romulus sequel news

Alien Franchise Rule Book: for Members by Members

dk

MemberTrilobiteMarch 31, 201721373 Views187 Replies
Alien Franchise Rule Book: for Members by Members

“The Scified Alien Covenant Unified Rule Book for Future Movies in the Alien Franchise”

I ran this thread from 23-30 March. I may have edited to maintain flow so I hope it somewhat orderly.

I would first like to thank contributors alphabetically: Apex_Predator, BigDave,, Blackwinter-witchchadsbrothermatt, Dk, Grinning & Dropping Linen, IRaptus, LV226, ninXeno426, and Parkerparrot

 

Here is the original link: http://www.alien-covenant.com/topic/43788

Rules in no particular order:

  1. to have characters written and developed well with no wishy washy whimsical religious zealots.
  2. Do not put too much emphasis on technology like holograms and such.
  3. No romance whatsoever in any alien movie.
  4. No stupid characters such as fifield and milburn (posted X 2)
  5. No time travel (mentioned X 4)
  6. Put Chris and BigDave on the pay roll as consultants/writers with possible cameos. (Dave chose a mutated Jabba)
  7. No more than 3 rewrites of the script. Pick an idea, flesh it out, and make the best version of that idea possible rather than trying to incorporate old versions into some new vision by some new writer. (mentioned X 2)
  8. there is no place for corny over the top cheesy/corny dialog and sequences in this film universe (aka anything similar to Resurrection would be banned)
  9. No predators in the alien film universe, they are both cool but tonally too different to share a film and it be worthy of either,,save that stuff for the comic books (mentioned X 2)
  10. not everything has to be explained ,keep some mystery in this universe so we have something our minds can run wild with (mentioned X 2)
  11. NEVER turn it into an Avengers where our protaginists are just taking our hordes after hordes, it would be silly....even though Aliens went with the action/war vibe it still kept some of the bleak tone and impending doom and terror
  12. Ripley is done, done done never again shoehorn her into a sequel or prequel 
  13. Keep the main focus on morphing and mutating as the genesis of the species but still allow an occasional queen ...there is just more ghastly horror to play with when it comes to mutation, but the queen IMO is limited, she looks good our hero fights her thats it, having her on the screen dosnt really open up any storytelling doors for us other than a cool action scene
  14. Im fine with tech but make it look used or serviceable, if its too "bright and shiny" it takes away the tone and feel of the movie
  15. I do not ever want to see Weyland Yutani weaponize the xenomorph.If you want to know why,just play Colonial Marines.Enough said 
  16. R rating only (mentioned X 2)
  17. No main character kids
  18. Defined chest-burster gestation period(s). To paraphrase, consistent time lines yet allow some wiggle room for hosts with mentioned physical conditions that may explain gestation time variations.
  19. Xenos not used as cannon-fodder that run around in open spaces, or broad daylight; Ambush/stalking predator only.
  20. No quotes from Ripley as a fanboy nod to her like 'that's not exactly out of the manual' or 'get away from her, you bitch'.
  21. Stay true to H.R Giger and his nightmareish world and design.
  22. No comedy. (Dark humor is OK here and there but not to the extent of Resurrection)
  23. Never, ever again a newborn or anything that resembles that abomination. (I am fine with neomorphs though..) (mentioned X 2)
  24. No "up in the blue, infantile dopehead" ideas in scripts or drafts like wooden planets ur sutch. Alien worlds yes, but please not stupid.
  25. No fan boy service other then set pieces and or details about the alien universe that serves to expand the world
  26. Never 100% CGI, always a mix of practical effects
  27. Dont rely on Ripley storyline
  28. Don’t have more than 2 years between movies.
  29. I just hope they have it all planned out A-Z even if we dont see every part of A-Z as long as they know what a A-Z would be and stick to things that wont contradict it, and so also to tidy up the mess that has been left before.
  30. Projectile weapons preferred, yet allow for Laser-based weapons as they are making steady progress with them in the real world
  31. NO stupid-looking weapons like the blue and orange (present-day Target-match pistols) weapons seen in PROMETHEUS. They looked like kid's toys.
  32. NO MORE FLAMETHROWERS!! At least not pre-assembled ones in the armory/ready-for-use ones like we saw in PROMETHEUS. It is the absolute height of mindless and suicidal stupidity to fire one aboard a starship, they're cliche`, have no real practical use aside from menacing an Alien, and the last thing you want is an alien running amok, on fire, acid bleeding from multiple and increasing places where it's skin has burned through/sloughed off, and setting even more of the ship on fire and burning holes in the ship all along its path.
  33. Do NOT even TRY to 'Star Trek It Up'...this is the ALIENverse, it has its own distinct feel, flavor and mien. There is NO Central Monolithic Unchallengeable Federation of Planets as The Prime Authority...and there NEVER will be. There are NO Government starships out 'patrolling the sector', and when you're between star systems, you're on your own.
  34. Characters should act and inter-relate like people do in reality, not by way of artificial/idealized 'Niceness'. Watch ALIEN for some great scenes between Ripley and Parker and their friction-points in personality
  35. People drink beer, some likely carry whisky/liquor flasks, they smoke, and have pin-ups all over the place. These are people, not Idealized Human Federation Citizens
User Avatar
ninXeno426
Legacy Member
Group: Member
Rank: Praetorian
View Profile

Parkerparrakeet and I uh....Had a "disagreement"Over the newborn alien*Looks around wearily for Parkerparrot*And the Vulcan,no idea,he hasn't said a damn thing that pointy eared green blooded bastard.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

User Avatar
ninXeno426
Legacy Member
Group: Member
Rank: Praetorian
View Profile

LOL I can only see pages one two and five of this forum now,i think I may have missed a comment or two back their lol

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

User Avatar
Tiwaz
Group: Member
Rank: Chestburster
View Profile

Oh, you mean that entity trapped in Sha Ka Re or what it was called... Aren't the most of the sentient races in your universe supposed to be "created" too, by the... what was their name... Ah the Precursors.

Eine Theorie die nicht auf Etwas solidem basiert ist für gewöhnlich nur Geschwätz.

User Avatar
dk
Group: Member
Rank: Trilobite
View Profile

Sir, I sense deflection. I merely stated facts but I did not write the story nor did I claim to have. I am ultimately a creation of Gene Roddenberry. I will leave now and leave you humans to carry on in your barbaric manner as evidenced in this room.

User Avatar
Tiwaz
Group: Member
Rank: Chestburster
View Profile

As you wish *raises his hand for a vulcan salute* Dif-tor heh smusma.

Eine Theorie die nicht auf Etwas solidem basiert ist für gewöhnlich nur Geschwätz.

User Avatar
dk
Group: Member
Rank: Trilobite
View Profile

*The Vulcan returns the salute* Th'i-oxalra ; Sochya eh dif.

User Avatar
Blackwinter-witch
Group: Member
Rank: Praetorian
View Profile

dk

Will do and Thank-you!! I'll do a thorough back-track to ensure I have all the information RE; my suggestions and collate then post them here in the thread.

ALIEN: Manticore is going to be Digital with a print-on-demand option also. Then folks can have a real book, but there will be no wasted paper or trees regarding unsold copies. IF FOX Licenses it/Canonizes it, I'll do what I can to keep the price as reasonable as possible.

If they don't, then I'll publish it as 'Fan Fiction' and it'll be available without cost/price.

Just to say, in my works, Humanity will NEVER succeed in taming/harnessing/weaponizing the Alien. Some folks will TRY, but no way will I ever degrade the Alien to the status of one of Humanity's playthings.

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

User Avatar
Blackwinter-witch
Group: Member
Rank: Praetorian
View Profile

dk

Here's the original post of my suggestions. I decided to keep them full length so you can properly decide how best to edit/distill them down.

**************************************

1; Projectile weapons preferred, yet allow for Laser-based weapons as they are making steady progress with them in the real world.

1a; NO stupid-looking weapons like the blue and orange (present-day Target-match pistols) weapons seen in PROMETHEUS. They looked like kid's toys.

2; NO MORE FLAMETHROWERS!! At least not pre-assembled ones in the armory/ready-for-use ones like we saw in PROMETHEUS. It is the absolute height of mindless and suicidal stupidity to fire one aboard a starship, they're cliche`, have no real practical use aside from menacing an Alien, and the last thing you want is an alien running amok, on fire, acid bleeding from multiple and increasing places where it's skin has burned through/sloughed off, and setting even more of the ship on fire and burning holes in the ship all along it's path.

3; Do NOT even TRY to 'Star Trek It Up'...this is the ALIENverse, it has it's own distinct feel, flavour and mien. There is NO Central Monolithic Unchallengeable Federation of Planets as The Prime Authority...and there NEVER will be. There are NO Government starships out 'patrolling the sector', and when you're between star systems, you're on your own.

4; Characters should act and inter-relate like people do in reality, not by way of artificial/idealized 'Niceness'. Watch ALIEN for some great scenes between Ripley and Parker and their friction-points in personality.

5; People drink beer, some likely carry whisky/liquor flasks, they smoke, and have pin-ups all over the place. These are people, not Idealized Human Federation Citizens.

********************************

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

User Avatar
dk
Group: Member
Rank: Trilobite
View Profile

BWW- done. OP updated.

User Avatar
dk
Group: Member
Rank: Trilobite
View Profile

Oh yeah- now it is the Trilobite 10 or T10.

User Avatar
ninXeno426
Legacy Member
Group: Member
Rank: Praetorian
View Profile

Do I need the repost my rule?

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

User Avatar
dk
Group: Member
Rank: Trilobite
View Profile

nin- this is new territory. The original post ran for a week and those became automatic rules- it rewarded participation. After the fact, additional rules had to go through a vetting process to be approved to amend the list. I suppose the question becomes 'can a contributor add rules at will or should they be vetted by the T10'? Personally I like the idea of vetting even though it is a tedious process. I would like to hear from the T10 before continuing. I also think care should be taken that as the list grows, it may be more difficult to add rules that don't conflict with established rules.

User Avatar
ninXeno426
Legacy Member
Group: Member
Rank: Praetorian
View Profile

I second the vetting 

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

User Avatar
dk
Group: Member
Rank: Trilobite
View Profile

All right T10- we have a new issue to address. BigDave is on medical leave so that leaves the other 9. So far, the votes are 2/9 in favor of having contributors go through the vetting process to add rules.

NinXeno426- what should be the suspense day and time?

User Avatar
Blackwinter-witch
Group: Member
Rank: Praetorian
View Profile

dk

Just saw the amended Rules, and again TY!! :)

I also support the Vetting process, it might be tedious, but it will keep things from getting cluttered.

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

User Avatar
ninXeno426
Legacy Member
Group: Member
Rank: Praetorian
View Profile

I'd say April 7,time about 11:59 A.M. Pacific standard daylight time.What say you?

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

User Avatar
dk
Group: Member
Rank: Trilobite
View Profile

BWW- welcome aboard- you actually had to work for it!

OK, 07 April no later than 11:59 AM. As stated in the past, T10 input after the suspense will be ignored and considered in favor of the proposal.

We are at 3/9 in favor of vetting rules, be it contributors or members.

We are 5 pages into this and that may seem daunting to some members. We may have to consider making a new thread at some point to encourage participation. I thought about a sticky, but I ignore those and wonder if others might- just a thought.

User Avatar
Blackwinter-witch
Group: Member
Rank: Praetorian
View Profile

dk

TY! and I have never had any trouble working/earning my way along. Also, it was quite enjoyable discussing points and such while making my case and backing up my points. :)

Sticky...yes, people do tend to ignore them, but they are useful even despite that. I think the trick is not to have too many stickies, and one sticky isn't going to intimidate/daunt people.

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

User Avatar
dk
Group: Member
Rank: Trilobite
View Profile

The flame thrower rule- that was the closest call. Looking back at the thread and who did/did not participate, that could have been a tie requiring Chris to intervene.

User Avatar
ninXeno426
Legacy Member
Group: Member
Rank: Praetorian
View Profile

Black Winter Witch:After carefully reading reading your posts regarding the flamethrower,I am now officially in favor of the rule.While I think they will probably always be there,you raise some fine points regarding safety issues on board a star ship 

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

Join the discussion!



New Forum Topics
Recently Active Forums
Alien Fan Art
Alien Fan ArtArtwork from Alien fans! Share yours here!
Alien: Covenant
Alien: CovenantDiscuss the Prometheus Sequel, Alien: Covenant
Alien
AlienDiscuss all things Alien here
Alien: Earth
Alien: EarthDiscuss the Alien FX TV series here!
Hot Forum Topics
Highest Forum Ranks Unlocked
Thoughts_Dreams
Thoughts_Dreams » Neomorph
89% To Next Rank
Neomorph
Neomorph » Chestburster
96% To Next Rank
cuponator3000
cuponator3000 » Chestburster
84% To Next Rank
VivisectedEngineer
VivisectedEngineer » Chestburster
73% To Next Rank
Jonesy
Jonesy » Chestburster
54% To Next Rank
Latest Media
Scified Community Stats

Scified hosts a network of online communities containing 406,722 posts by 48,482 members (16 are online now). The Alien Fan Art Forum is the most recently active forum. The latest Forum topic added was: Share your favorite Alien Fan Art / Artists!

904 people are currently online

Join the discussion!
Please sign in to access your profile features!
(Signing in also removes ads!)



Forgot Password?
Scified Website LogoYour sci-fi community, old-school & modern
Hosted Fansites
AlienFansite
GodzillaFansite
PredatorFansite
Main Menu
Community
Sci-Fi Movies
Help & Info
+

Sign In to contribute!