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I'm very sceptical of where Ridley and fox are going to take this story with ALIEN: Covernant. I'm interested to know how you all feel about it.

Are you feeling positive or negative about it?

The poster was good though!

 

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Necronom: yes I too am in the disappointed camp and was shocked by Ridley saying "just got to think what the hell to do next" but only because it could of been a classic and just got ruined buy a number of factors in the end. It was still amazing in some ways and that's were the hope lies. I had such high hopes thinking he had had all those years planning away 3 or so parts of an epic. Only to realise he had thrown it together and even done a massive u turn at the last script change. Not the solid world I was expecting I guess o bannon was that world and he's gone :( . 

Anyway the hype is gone now and expectations low so it can only do better in my eyes. Writers can sometimes pull out amazing scripts as well from nowhere I have noticed and I think that may be in hand now like you say. Most of my hope is also held up by the over all sorry and the fact it can still be amazing. 

I'm not sure how much of the xeno we will see... it might be more of a new or similar type of xeno or new angles on its existence and links to alien through the back door as such. And it might be a prequel but it's a new story and it seems this part may be fairly separated from part 1 (new characters places etc) so that's good I think too...And if it's all a big mess up it's be a sad laugh to bash in the forums :p ...

 "It's almost as if they are making it up as they go along" :D

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@djamelameziane

There are really 4 sides to the Prometheus Attempt at a Prequel to Alien

1) Those who somewhat enjoyed Prometheus and the route it was trying to take despite its flaws and so fans who had high hopes that the next 1-2 movies would be put together better and gives answers to the Questions posed by Alien and new ones in Prometheus.

2) The Alien Fanboys who are only interested in the Xenomorph and the Space Jockey, who some may even had been disapointed the Engineers are the Space Jockey and the whole created Mankind Plot.  These guys want to see Xenomorphs.

3) The Casual Sci Fi fan who would not have quite been able to make a connection between Alien and Prometheus and thus more Xeno exposure would have been required... never mind the way the movie was put together that made it hard to understand.

4) Casual Cinema fans out there, who may not even had noticed the movie was a Alien movie and for these guys, well Prometheus would have been a very odd movie that made little sense.

And so while we have fans of Prometheus who was looking forwards to David and Shaw finding the Engineers and what their Agenda was, what remains of them and why did they create us and then want to destroy us... and more explanations to LV-223 and its purpose and connection to Xeno DNA... but to mainly follow the Engineers, and their HIERARCHY

But we have to remember its about Big Bucks and Fox, and if they want to invest in a Story the worst thing they can do is forfill the wishes of group 1) Prometheus fans... and have the next movie not draw much and then have them Can the Franchise with yet more half answered Questions.

They would know they have to get a interest from groups 2-4 and i think thats one reason for a more Alieny Connection....  also the Alien 5 movie was gaining more interest from the General Public.

Dont fear djamelameziane as i have said over and over... i dont see Ridley going the route of making a mainly Xeno based Flick that leads to Two more Xeno Flicks then Alien.... not when also we have a Alien 5 and no doubt there would be a 6 that would concentrate on the Xeno DNA.

I think the way they are going is what makes sense.... and after the next 3 movies to be released.... Alien: Covenant 2017, Alien 5 2018 (i would assume) and Alien: Paradise Lost 2019 (i would assume) i think after this, Fox and Ridley can bring out movies based on Prometheus and the Engineers that would steer away from ALIEN.... 

At least i hope so.

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Lets look at the Worst Fears then.....

Fox and Ridley decide that the Engineers Angle was a error.... and so they drop everyhing they had been working on and leading upto and Prometheus... and leave it as a mystery....

We will see a New Alien Preqeul.... it would carry the Alien Name and Brand... and we shall see a set of movies that would in most part connect the Xeno DNA and Origins and link to Alien and the Space Jockey........

We get a movie set 18 years before Alien, and for fans who did not follow Prometheus or see it, they would see what a movie that shows a crew of a Space Ship explore far reaches of Space and come across a World that they would find David on his own... i am sure that he and Prometheus would be mentioned in the movie in someway... and we shall see Rappace as Shaw for a short time.... and fans who never saw Prometheus would not really know the connection.

So we are going to get a movie about this Android on a World that is now a Scene of Disaster that has some Creature Related to the Xeno Evolving.... a Crew of Human Explorers.... and then we shall see the stages of the Xenomorph, that could climax in a scene with the Alien we all came to know and love from the 1979 movie... unless this creature wont appear as a cameo like the Deacon that sets up a 2nd movie?  Are they going to show us Xenos on the loose killing the Crew of the Covenant....?

What of the Aftermath....?   Another Two movies after this and so 3-4 hours more following the events of the Aftermath of the Crew of the Covenant uncovering David and a horrific beast Related to the Xeno or even the Xeno itself?    The movie would introduce the Original Monster and its a case of do we see it on screen a lot in this movie, or would the next one carry on with a more Xeno Flick.

Then 3-4 hours of futher Film to carry on with what remains after Covenant, and 18 years to link to Alien.... without mention of detail of the Engineers hands in the Xeno DNA creation, the Juggernaught ships.... LV-223 and also this Shaw who makes a Cameo?

How are they going to have to explain in 3 movies and 18 years that the Crew of a Colony Ship find a Android on a Alien World that has Alien Xeno DNA and will see the beast unleashed again... how is all this going to link to the Xeno Origins and Space Jockey on LV-426 by not covering the Engineers and their past, and LV-223...?

It makes no sense and goes against what Alien seemed to show....

So have no fear.... they will have to show us the things we wanted to know after Prometheus, i cant see how they can get around any of it.....

Here is the deal with the Xenomorph.... as the movies have so far shown us, as the Drafts to the movies in the past have shown and as Ridley had sugested in interviews..

The Xeno is some Ancient Biology, who's roots and Ancestry be that a path of Genetic Ancestry prior to the Alien Xeno that leads to that Beast... or a path of Ancestry that leads to other Organisms evolved from that beast.....  They all have a connection to LV-223, they all have a connection to the Engineers and what ever events had caused the Fall of such a Ancient Race.   Those Ships Juggernaught/Derelict are all maybe Millions of years old... certainly both the Derelict on LV-426 and the Outpost with more those ships on LV-223 all have a connection to the Xeno DNA and Bioology and use as a Weapon for some purpose.... and at a time that these things had occuried thousands of years ago.

There is a Engineer/Xeno connection, there is a LV-223/LV-426 connection and it seems that the Timeframe when things backfired and caused the death of the Engineers and the Fall of their Empire was about 2000 years ago.

Ridley confirmed both events had happened a few thousands of years ago.

Micheal Beihn's leak sugests that the Plot in Part for Covenant or at very least its sequels take place  thousands of years before Aliens....

And so i think we have to have Faith.... that all things have not been abandoned.... just they have to use XENO DNA and explanations sooner so that they can get more interest in the future of the Franchise... and also allow Alien 5 and onwards to not touch upon any ideas regarding the Xeno DNA, origins, Engineer connection and what is left of Engineer Tech and the Xeno after the events of Aliens..

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I will make a Topic that is about ALIEN COVENANT... what we know so far... and read into all the clues to see where this is taking us.... and unless they are going to downplay Prometheus and its mild links to the Xeno DNA and Engineers and Questions that movie left... and unless they are going against everything Ridley had said regarding the Xeno and Space Jockey.....  I think we can make a idea of what is going on......

And its not a case of   Covenant Crew ==>  Arrive at World that is not a Paradise ==> Find David the Android ==> See Xeno related Organism evolve ==> See the Original Monster re-introduced and the events of after 2104 lead to 2122 and the Derelict Directly.

Nope its not happening.....

The information about the movie... Proves it.... lets look at some points.. even if we ignore Prometheus that movie never happened.... ignore Ridleys comments about Engineers, Fallen Angels and Gods and Paradise Lost connections....

What does Covenant tell us.... ?

In the year 2104+ a Human Colony Ship the Covenant arrives at what it was lead to think would be a Paradise... (Earth like World with little or no need to Teraform?) what they discover is a World that is not Paradise, its a World that bares the Scars of Destruction... with its only inhabitant a Lone Android David.... (Survivor of the Prometheus mission) but he is not alone.... there is something Evolving on that World... something the Crew would no doubt come face to face with... a Horror Reborn... the Xenomorph.......

Can we expect to be shown the events of this encounter and movie lead to the Xeno Origin and Space Jockey in Alien some 18 years latter?

Lets look at some supporting Clues that seem to show the Synopsis is not all that there is... and yes i wont use any thing off screen in the past about the Xeno/Engineers and i wont even go to bring Prometheus into it directly..... (just information relating to Covenant and after the Title Change).

Start from a Blank Canvas.... lets look at clues that add more to the Synopsis than that Plot leads us to....

* Noomi Rapace returns as Shaw... in a minor role... how? and would the audience ask who is she, what led to the events of the small role she would play?

* David the Android on this Alien World, how did he get there? Does he appear in the brief scene with Shaw? is this to be a Mystrey or covered in a future movie? or in part shown?

* David has a doupleganger, the emphasis in the Synopsis is that he is SYNTHETIC, Fassbender will apear in Two Roles.... could this be that David Evolves? could it be that there is another David Android on the Covenant? Could it be that there is a likeness None Synthetic doupleganger on the Covenant? 

* They are to show how the Xeno-Biology came to be and who made it, and on that world by those who's home it was/is.. this implies Engineers must get some mention or beings related. As all clues in the comments regarding covenant and the creature evolving sugests its Origins, are not of the event of Covenant but before that crew arive and thus either something on that World that is created in part by the Engineers... or something created with the Biology they had created that David would have onboard the ship he arrived at Paradise in.

* Micheal Beihn sugested that the movie follows similar theme to Alien 5 but is set on different Worlds, and Covenant is set THOUSANDS of years before Aliens.

* We have shooting locations... of Epic Forests... Epic Mountains, and then Formidable CGI Locations.... while Paradise is described as bieng Dark and a scene of Disaster... so how can that World have Lush and Lively Forest and Mountains.... and then Dark Sinister CGI World?

We can assume the movie starts of covers the Crew of Covenant in flight like Alien did, and Prometheus did after the Sacrifical and Cave Painting Scenes.....   so is Paradise a Place of tranquility wonder Forrest and Mountain Ranges.... when the crew of Covenant arrive?  Nope as they hoped to find such a thing but they do not...

So there has to be such scenes set before the Crew Arrive... is this at a time when David arrives? or a time before that, Flash Backs like Prometheus Sacrifical Scene?

I fail to see how a incomming Ship, that arrives at a dark world, a scene of disaster where just a Android and Xeno DNA Organism awaits them.....  Fits in with Epic Locations... bare in mind Austrialia would be used for these.

And its Forrest and not Jungle.

so you see so far, we can work out that the synopsis does not cover what is going on and there must be some Flash Back Scenes from the Past.... be that prior to 2104 and after 2094 or thousands of years ago....

There must be a Reason Paradise is not Paradise... there must be a reason, for how we find out why the Xeno Bilogy was created by those who used to call Paradise Home....  either that or Paradise was Paradise before David arrived and the Xeno Boilogy was something David brought with him from LV-223.

 

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Most of the movie would be shot in New South Wales.....

Here are some Forrest and Mountain Landscapes from that area...

 

 

Do these look like a Paradise?  I would say so, and especially for a World Humans would love to find as a future Earth....

These Locations or similar could be touched up via CGI but ask yourself....

Do they look like a scene of Disaster? a Dark World?   Nope!

Would they be Scenes used to be set on Earth as far as a Base HQ and starting point for the Covenant to leave?  Nope!

How could such Scenes fit in? 

Most likely...

* Paradise when David arrives?

* Paradise set thousands of years ago?

* Some place on Earth or other World set thousands of years ago?

But why? and would showing such Locations work with not showing us Engineers?

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So i know some may not have much confidence with what seems a U-Turn but i am not sure they are throwing away the ideas they had before.... I will make note of all the Clues about the Prometheus Sequel was setting up to be starting with the oldest first... these are all from Ridley Scott himself.... not word for word but point he had mentioned.. i can find his Comments that point to these Plot Points if anyone wishes.

PROMETHEUS 2 the Evolution from End of Prometheus untill Alien: Covenant name change.

========= 1) Right after Prometheus was out on DVD =====

*The movie would logically go where Shaw and David are heading, Ridley said you cant have them going off with big Questions and not follow it up.

*They will be heading to the place David refers to as Paradise, the place the Engineer who he spoke with told them that they came from (Engineers Homeworld).

*Shaw will have to put David back together, she may have her reservations, but without David she is going no where... and David can be very Persuasive.

*They did not want to meet God in the first movie.. (Engineers are not God then).

*They was not pleased with the Elder Engineers, they never looked Godlike enough.

*They meet some biengs but this beings (Engineers?) are not Gods, and they are not Benevolent.

*David is bringing Hell with him, and what happens if the Black Goo is used on God? or a Machine?

*The movie would be heading away from Alien, the Franchise will distance itself more from the 1979 Movie.

*Ridley sugested indeed something Mankind had done around 2000 years ago may have caused the Engineers to want to destroy their wayward children so to speak.

*Ridley sugested that its possible Inteligent Life had been on Earth before Modern Man, and Mentioned Atlantis and also that maybe creation then destruction to re-start over may have happened a number of times.

============ 2) above was main information released prior to 2015 ========

*The Xenomorph had been done to death, its been cooked to death.

*There be no more Gods and Dragons.

*What Shaw and David will find will not be a Paradise but a Dark World.

*They will arrive at Paradise and they will meet God or the Devil (Rappace comment).

*Mankind is not the only Humanoid Life these Engineers have seeded in the Galaxy.

========= 3) All went Quiet  for while ==========

*Shaw will put David back together, but they have something special planned for David (in one piece) but they do not wish to give it away.

*They (David and Shaw) will be off to the place of the Engineers, but will find a place of Disaster.

*They will be trying to introduce a fresher form of the Original Monster for the 3rd act.

*They will be showing us who would create such Evil Biology (Xenomorph/Black Goo).

*They will be showing why they created such a Bio-Weapon, (as Protection but from who).

*By the time they finish the Franchise we shall know who created the Xeno, and why and when!

*These Engineers may have created us, and been the forerunners to Mankind (and other Human Life in the Galaxy).

*But then who is responsible for Worlds to even Support Life, for Planets to have the right climate, right distance from the Sun.. for Worlds to have everything needed to support life, was this accidental?  Ridley does not think so, and even Questions was the Big Bang even Accidental?

*If not then where is the Big Guy in all this? (God)

*There is more than one Earth like plannet in the Galaxy, there could be many thousands.

*The movie will follow themes from Paradise Lost (John Milton).

*They always felt the Fallen Angels from that Poem had the most Fun...

*We have one group/bieng who is handsome has all the Girls and goes to all the Clubs.. while the other is not as handsome and stays at Home.

=========== End of Plot Points =========

So it seems we have a U-Turn but i cant see them throwing all the above away!   Also the supposed source i had, had informed me of a lot of stuff at the end of March, information gained from Early March... they futher went into detail with information given in March, in May swore me not to pass any on as far as detailed versions OPPS!

This information was passed on before  2) i.e the Gods and Dragons.  And from then until even Alien: Paradise Lost, a lot of this information was quite close.

So who knows whats the Plan now, but i think they would go back to cover some of the ideas they had before the U-Turn i am sure of it.

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Wow. Like the New South Wales location.....was thinking it was typical Aussie outback...looks like Oregon or California.

Can't wait to see the Ship design! Wonder if it will be Nostromo like?

Prometheus was spacious and first class...I suspect the Covenant will be tight and cramped?

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HOPE, like a flash back to Hadleys Hope, always welcome.  Feeling very positive about the direction of this sequel.  What's not to like about a Colony/Mining ship and a whole lot of crew discovering a totally bio-mechanical hell hole of a planet.

 

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LOL Love that image Ruhaniya ...

Battlestar Galactica meets Aliens....  but to be honest we cant rule this out, not at all... not saying BSG exactly but as far as that universe was based on their being a Human Colony out there in the Galaxy that is unknown to Earth and vice versa....

Ridley had said a long time ago... and one point i forgot to add...

*Mankind is not the only Humanoid Life these Engineers have seeded in the Galaxy.

*There is more than one Earth like plannet in the Galaxy, there could be many thousands.

When we consider these which i will add to my other post.... and Ridley saying that Earth may not be the only place where Humans are.... it allows them to explore a Prometheus Franchise set the other side of the Galaxy with another colony of Humans and then introduce a different kind of Xenomorph and this Franchise would not step on the toes of Alien at all.

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As far as the Shooting Locations.....

This is not a Fact, we could see Rocky Terrain as in the Outback.

#This would be ideal for a dead planet like Mars, hence why a lot of movies feature Mars would use this location and some in the USA....  this kind of location shot at night or near dusk and then CGI over the top could be used as a Dark and Desolate place..

Australia also has some Jungles.... but these are in the Western Side....

But as Ridley said "monumental forest and monumental rock"  so i guess i was wrong?   As Rock does not mean Mountains... so who knows...

As Monumental Rock in Australia would give us locations like this...

But they did say Forrest too and as most of the shooting is within New South Wales, which is a area that is most abundant of Australias Forrest locations... and many are set around rolling hills..

This would still give the opportunity to show us a Lush and Lively Green World with Forrests and Mountains.... and then another shot of such a World After... where it is dead and baron.

Scientist have predicted Mars could have been more like Earth Billions of years ago... and Earth in a Billion years could become a dead planet much like the Outback looks today. or Mars.

So there is a chance to show a Forrest/Mountains and then Desert/Rocky Locations as a Before and After....  reading into the comments and Synopsis this is what it leads me towards and when we throw in Micheal Biehns comments about being set thousands of years ago, i think in part this is what we could be seeing.

 

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Some read the Synopsis as maybe not being Paradise, but maybe LV-223 or LV-426 and the Covenant being a ship set to explore that place.... but i would assume the company would know about Prometheus and not hearing from it, and i cant see it being a coinsidence that the Colony Ship heads to that system.....

Also some thought it must be that the Covenant picks up the signal from LV-223 and is on a intercept course with the Ship David and Shaw are on... i was always on the side that this makes little sense, as we have to assume Engineer Ships can traverse Space far greater Speeds than Earth Ships in the year 2100 or abouts.

And the whole Human Ship getting re-directed to encounter a World which harbinges Xeno Life Forms has been done in Alien.... especially if the ship has a Android on board.... who knows more than the Crew Do.....  however Star Wars Force Awakens is not to much different from A New Hope... so how knows....

Nope for me the Covenant was expecting to find Uncharted Paradise, which means a World that is very Earth Like, a Perfect Place for a Colony to set up on... without any Terraforming... And thus a mission set off to a potential Earth Like World that had been detected and surveyed as having the potential to be a Paradise... the Crew are then into Cryo-Sleep like Prometheus and set off on a Long Journey to reach this World... only when they come out of FTL Travel, they arrive in the system of that World and it is no longer a Paradise....  I assumed the movie would have to be set way after Prometheus by the time this Colony Crew Arrive so as to not step on the toes of Alien and Aliens...  or the ship would have had to had set off on its mission many years before Prometheus...  AND SO... do not have any idea about the events of Prometheus... as far as the Disaster that had happened... or if they knew the Ship was lost they would not know every detail....

As lets face it if they did, then the crew of the Covenant would be more cautious upon finding David on his own, especially if they received Shaws SOS and then wander where is she?  I mean are they going to give us a Stupid Crew again?  and so they must not be aware of the Engineers and the Evil Biological Weapons they have a hand in.

Then after this route that i interpreted as whats going on, we get information about the movie being set 10 years after Prometheus....  and so something similar to what i assumed must be the case.

We have to consider also... are they going to ignore all the points that was made prior to the Alien: Coveant name change (see my post before) i cant be sure.... but Ridley had even after this name change said..

*They are going to the planet of the Engineers.

*There is a scene of Disaster.

*They find a Dark and ominous world.

*We shall be shown who made the Beast (Xeno) and why, and its hinted that when they say.. "they're" they mean the Covenant Crew, and David?  and when they say "they" as in who created the Beast they mean the Engineers or their Biolology (David could use).

And we need to think there is going to be at least 5 hours of Movie time before we get to Alien and the Answers... there is 3 movies and are these going to follow the Covenant crew and what goes down in the 18 years prior to Alien?

I doubt it.... for them to sugest that the World is Dark and Dangerous, and yet a Paradise was expected... i think the World was more of a Paradise years ago, maybe before David arrived? as 10 years and a Engineer Ship with a Cargo (that Ridley said a long time ago was Hell he was bringing with him).  or it could have been a disaster when David arrives.

Remember... we can detect far away Stars now, and then Potential Planets by looking at how the light from a star flickers....  we could detect thus via our primative systems compared to Prometheus... we could in theory determine a Star some say 400 Light years away that appears to have multiple planets traverse the stars path between us.....  If this Star went Super Nova and thus destroyed those planets too then we would not know about it for 400 years.

So if we set off a ship to that System and the Crew was in Cryo Sleep on a 400 Light year Journey and then 50 years into that journey that Star had Super Nova, then if this ship does not wake the crew up untill they reach the co-ordinants....  then they would find Nothing... just the aftermath of a Super Nova that occuried 350 years prior... well you get the picture.

So yes there is the potential to show a World that is Lush and a Paradise in one, Scene and then Dark and Desolate in another.....

Prometheus had Flash Back of the Sacrifical Scene... we could see similar... and what if this scene shows us in part the Disaster that befell Paradise and the Xeno.... this would give us clues to the Origin set thousands of years ago and so would not contradict LV-223 or LV-426.

They are re-introducing the Xeno... so maybe David discovers the aftermath of thousands of years ago... and this is how we get the Xeno Re-introduced.....  as well Alien we first saw the Xeno..... Aliens it was Re-introduced.

I think this would be more ideal, and i would also hope that the Re-introduction allows for a Fresher and Different Organism....

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Finally.... i think there is more to the Name than just for namesakes....

Prometheus was more than a ships name.... if you look at the 2023 TED Talk, and look deep at the clues in Prometheus and then study the Myth of the Titan Prometheus.....  then you can make a connection that the Name has a bearing on what may have gone down...

i.e The Engineers or a Faction or One Bieng above the Engineers, created Mankind, but then they also taught Mankind things that the other Gods/Faction did not intend for us.  And then the Titan was punished.  I can go deeper into this but i already had in the past.... (my theory is the Fresco was not Adam and God Cistine Chapel but the Fresco of Prometheus tied to the Rock instead).

So Covenant has to play some role.....   Covenant means a Pact, a Agreement usually with regards to reframe from something in future...  In the Biblical Terms its usually a Pact made between God and Mankind....

I think this is something we shall be shown....  i would assume... it is either.

*A agreement between David and the Engineers. (or Shaw and Engineers).

*A agreement in the past between Engineers and its actions against Mankind.

*A agreement in the past between rival Engineers or Engineers and creators.

I am going to sugest that i cant see them abandon the Engineers and Shaws Answers, i cant see them going the route that the Engineers are gone... all gone... the Last Engineer in Prometheus was the Last of his Kind,  and the Space Jockey the one before him.

Ridley had hinted that the Engineers are not top of the Hierarchy are we to just go with the notion that none of those survived?  

Ridley had hinted the Engineers created life elsewhere, the Star Map on the Juggernaught shows other Galaxies... are we to assume these beings and their creators are just going to seed Life in just our Galaxy... and they are all gone..?

BUT IF THEY ARE NOT ALL GONE?

Why had they not came back to Earth, why not try to destroy us?

I think the Answer is Simple.......  they decided or had agreed it was not worth the hassle, maybe the cost to their Empire as it backfired,  or a rebelion and War between themselves. Something had happened to diminish most of their Empire...

Maybe this is the case... or not.....  and the Engineers and their creators are numerous.. but why have they not came back....

Either of the above i think the Answer is that they had made a Decision a COVENANT to leave us alone!

This is where i think Covenant will loosely connect... towards the Engineers/their Creators and the History of a Event related to them in the Past..... just as loosely Prometheus Myth also linked to a Event in their past.

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I guess at this stage we just don't know enough. but I amvery careful of trusting anything at this stage

There certainly is hope for the series but this is the one that will make or break it.

 

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Totally Agee Oduodo..

This is a make or break....

If it fails as a Alien movie... and really seeing Xenos, does not attract the big bucks... or its not done in the right way and fans are disapointed... then its pretty much hard for them to Follow up with another Alien Origins Sequel.... and also if the movie does not do well.... and fans not as interested or this movie flops a bit... then also i think it would be wave bye bye to ever discovering more about the Engineers...

So i agree it has to be done the RIGHT way, i had discused why maybe a so called U-Turn made sense... to cash in on the antisipation of Alien 5 over Prometheus 2 and give us more Xeno related movie... that gives more clues sooner rather than latter.... and then leaves latter to focus on the Engineers.

Totally Agee Oduodo..

This is a make or break....

If it fails as a Alien movie... and really seeing Xenos, does not attract the big bucks... or its not done in the right way and fans are disapointed... then its pretty much hard for them to Follow up with another Alien Origins Sequel.... and also if the movie does not do well.... and fans not as interested or this movie flops a bit... then also i think it would be wave bye bye to ever discovering more about the Engineers...

So i agree it has to be done the RIGHT way, i had discused why maybe a so called U-Turn made sense... to cash in on the antisipation of Alien 5 over Prometheus 2 and give us more Xeno related movie... that gives more clues sooner rather than latter.... and then leaves latter to focus on the Engineers.

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As a huge fan of Prometheus, I cannot feel negative about the film. I was very sceptical when I heard that Noomi Rapace won't be in the sequel and the fact that Prometheus 2 will take place 10 years later. Years ago Ridley said that it will be a direct sequel. Of course it has a more huge feeling if it takes a decade later with a new cast, but we won't know what happened on the journey to Paradise. I hope it is like the Godfather sequel. It tells a sequel-story but also a prequel-story. However, we still have two more sequels that hopefully will give us more answers. But I don't have a clue what story will be told in the two other sequels. But also the change of the title feels strange. Prometheus was a prequel-spin-off about the origin of the Aliens but also of the humans. I hope the story-element of 'how and why' the engineers wanted to destroy mankind won't be lost. That was a very important question Shaw asked herself at the end of Prometheus. After all, I'm still very excited.

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