Alpha egg

I agree that the engineers seed multiple planets with life and then dump their goo and let the xenomorph evolve and then collect the eggs. What's your theory in regard to how the engineers are able to collect the eggs? It's not something I really thought was important, since I thought Prometheus answered practically everything about the mystery of the Jockey and his cargo (i.e. the Jockey was part of a race of engineers that created the xeno and also seed multiple worlds with life).

But I was thinking, remember their suits are always ruptured outwards, which implies they must have been impregnated before they donned their suits. As such I surmised that their suits that they wear also block the huggers from reacting somehow and when they are not wearing one they're vulnerable, as if they're made from the same material as the eggs. I remember in Prometheus when the engineer goes in the seat that his helmet had a material similar to the stomach-line interior of the eggs, so I think they're made of the same bio-material just as their pressure suit must have some xeno-dna. So in regards to the outbreak, the Engineers must have been caught with their pants down, quite literally, and were infected before they donned their critical suits. Also I think the suit would only protect them from activating the facehuggers but not a xeno, for obvious reasons lol

In fact, I'm convinced that their bio-suits are made from the same material as the eggs, as if they collect empty eggs and recycle them, here's why -  designer Neil Scanlan said that the engineer's helmet was sculpted from castings of organic textures, including cabbages, cauliflower and lichen.  And Ridley wanted the interior to be "soft like the lining of a stomach", just like the eggs! So, when they're wearing these suits, they can handle the eggs effectively.   

I think their Bio suits are definitely Morb biology adapted to that specific use. A living suit of armor, probably integrated into their own flesh, making them stronger, and easily interfaced with similar tech, like the Juggernaut.

So, inasmuch as we don't see the original SJ that was literally growing from the ship, we still get an astronaut that is biologically united with the ship. Does this mean the Alien SJ is no longer canon? No, although that could be put to rest in a forthcoming chapter.

I'm inclined to think the SJ exist, and the one seen in Alien is an example of their experiments, the Engineers being a more refined and mobile iteration. I also think it could work that the Goo, or some form of it, is made by the Morb itself, and that's what they use to transform their prey into eggs. The Morb's head is a Goo factory.

I think there is a connection between the Engineers Bio-Tech and the Xeno Biology, we may also have to ask how come we do not see any such Bio-Tech at the start of the movie the sacrificial scene?

Did they acquire this technology latter? did the Xeno then come from this Technology or did the Technology come from the Xeno or related Organism.

Yes it is a good idea in how the Organism borrows DNA of its host and how using the Egg Morph it could be a way to build up collection after collection of DNA... Always discarding the less useful traits and keeping the best.

This is a idea that we see the Goo in the Movie do.

If we exclude the Egg Morph and go the route of the Queen and Aliens onwards, then again we do not seem to see any advancing or evolving of the Xeno.

All we see is a means to procreate the same Organism, but there are differences to the Xeno in Aliens and those say of Alien and Alien Resurrection.

Drones and Warriors.

Maybe a Drone is what builds and sets up a Nest and it needs Organic DNA to be able to build a hive, i.e a Host... once a Hive is established and a Queen to Lay Eggs, then Warriors are born instead to protect the Hive and collect more Hosts.

Its my interpretation of Alien that the Egg Morph was the way to produce a Queen, that would explain why the Egg was Larger and why the Xeno only captured 2 Hosts one for a Egg and one for a Host, instead of capture another 2 Hosts to produce another Xeno thus 3 in total... so why did it need only one? Unless this one could then reproduce in Mass.

As far as the Engineers attempts to produce something perfect well the Alpha Egg, i think what they was doing was trying to create instead the prefect off spring... maybe they came across some organism related to the Xeno, they saw maybe by accident one of their own kind Face Hugged to produce a Organism, they then experiments on these Organisms until the Deacon was produced.

Once they had got to create the Deacon seen in the Mural, they then proceeded to try and use its DNA as the basis of seeding life instead of the Engineers DNA, they saw the results of Xeno Experiments on Engineers produce a Organism (Deacon) that they saw as being more Perfectly DNA wise than pure Engineer DNA

So they then attempted to re-weaponize the DNA of the Deacon so that it could be spread to evolve a Worlds Life to take on Deacon Traits as opposed to Engineers.

So they Sacrificed Deacons with the Sacrificial Goo, stored the resulting material within those Urns maybe with some other active chemical accelerant?

Thats how i read it.

However that does not mean that is correct, right now nearly everything is open as to a explanation but maybe the Comic Book if its plot and how it explores the Goo/Engineer/Xeno links have been green lighted by Fox and Ridley could give us our greatest clues?

As far as the Eggs and how they are transported...

We all know Eggs are very hostile... but indeed the Human Scientist aboard the Auriga in Alien Resurrection managed to move some into those labs in front of the Hosts they had brought in aboard the Betty

So if they managed to do it then the Engineers surely could also....

When i saw Alien the impression was they was all laid there in neat rows and not as if they was laid, Gigers idea was the Ship actually produced the Eggs... off course things have changed since that idea.

But maybe the Engineers have some Bio-Mechanical Machinery that could do that...

We also have to look at why do they have Space Jockey Suits? They dont need them to breath... well not on LV 223 they never, so maybe they operate like some kind of Hazmat Suit so the Engineers do not affect the Environment.

We see that the Xeno Eggs are activated to motion so its not quite a case of respiratory i.e release of CO2 that is for instance how a Mosquito tracks down a Host to take Blood from...

Also another puzzle would be that well while these Suits could prevent contamination with the Black Goo, as it would appear it needs to make direct contact with Organic Material, it cant see the Space Jockey masks being any use against Face Huger because well they got into Kanes Helmet and also the Cryo Pods onboard the Sulaco's that a Ripley, Hicks and Newt was sleeping inside.

The only actual clue or part of any movie in Alien Franchise, where we see the Eggs being handled by any Race at all, is the Fresco....

This creature is able to pick up a Egg, we cannot say if its opening the Egg to become a Host but that would take the assumption that Xeno related Organism will infect another of its kind.

This is not to say its a Xeno holding the Egg as well the other frescos Organism also has the same Xeno hands...

Sorry if this is going a bit off Topic... but if we go the Egg Morph Route it has to have Origins and by using this post about the Egg Morph is really a way of asking, why and what end does this process take place as far as the Xeno and its DNA and ability to take on traits of a Hosts DNA and then connection to what we saw in Prometheus...

These images above could be the Smoking Gun and Missing Link to how this all either Started.. or Ended.

As far as the Engineers dead on LV 223 well chest busted Engineers the only evidence i see is the Space Jockey, the Last Engineer and the other 3 in Cryo Sleep... The other Engineers as covered in another post seem to been infected with the Goo and going through a similar process to the Sacrificial Engineer IMO.

Then again, given how similar the organic tech is between the suits and the eggs I think the engineers first take facehugger larvae from human females and put them in the eggs - which they manufacture along with all their other organic tech - so they can keep incubating. Obviously this is a very dangerous process given how quickly the damn things grow. Shaw had a trilobite facehugger grown in her - a very primordial facehugger - and remember there were urns of various different sizes which seems to suggest that they contain different versions of the facehugger. So I think what the engineers did is first infect human hosts, extract facehuggers at early stages from females and placed them in eggs. 

I think the reason for the engineers interest in the xeno is its fast growth rate. If you remember  the sacrifice scene at the start of prometheus  the DNA from the engineer developed very fast. Maybe that is the link between engineer and alien. Maybe that is what they get from the alpha egg. An evolutionary refinement of sorts. The purest black goo for development of the deacon.

I think the reason for the engineers interest in the xeno is its fast growth rate. If you remember  the sacrifice scene at the start of prometheus  the DNA from the engineer developed very fast. Maybe that is the link between engineer and alien. Maybe that is what they get from the alpha egg. An evolutionary refinement of sorts. The purest black goo for development of the deacon.

The Answers will depend ultimately upon the evolution and origins of the Xeno and its relation to the Engineers...

Is the Xeno or related Ancestor the God of the Engineers?

Is it (or its ancestor) something the Engineers created either by mistake or on purpose?

Is it (or its ancestor) something the Engineers found and then tried to re-engineer?

Did the Goo come from it (or its ancestor) or vice versa?

Once we know that the rest falls into place quite easy.. But the movie has clues that support each of the above...

If we exclude all other movies but Alien and then we throw in Star Beast Script then indeed we can see the Egg Morph scene shows us a few things...

1) The Organism needs Organic Host to mutate its DNA to Produce a Egg and also that it needs another to be Host for the eventual Organism that comes from that Egg,  the Egg looks large but maybe over time it shrinks down in size?

2) That maybe the Organism needs Genetic Material from a Host to produce Material it builds its Hives out of? But then the production staff on Alien did suggest it secreted a resin from those tupes on its back to perform that.

Now we see throughout the franchise the Xeno Organism implants a Embryo that then takes on traits from its host and thus contains some of its DNA.

Some suggested that these Eggs then contain DNA that can be harvested by the Engineers, but i dont agree with this for a few reasons now Prometheus came out.

1) The movie franchise seemed to point to that the one style of Face Huger we see in the Franchise is what starts the process of the Xeno Life Cycle... coming from a Egg First off course... we do not know for sure if the Alien Eggs on LV 426 came from a Organism that came from the Space Jockey thus passed on his DNA.

We can safely assume that those on Hadleys Hope, came from Human Hosts i.e the Eggs.. as the Queen laid them and there was no Queen in Alien so one must have been birthed from a Human and thus started a chain of passing Human DNA.

But these Eggs and all the others in the Franchise all produce the same Vanilla Face Huger, and seems this Default Organism takes on traits of its Host but then ultimately as far as a Queen goes it just produces more Vanilla Eggs/Face Hugers.

2) Collecting the Xeno Eggs is a very dangerous Task, if we accept the Egg Morph as a option then this may lend weight to being able to obtain DNA from them...

But alas we do not know what happens to a Adult Xeno once there is no more Hosts around, do they die? do they Morph into Eggs or live on we just dont know.

3) The Engineers possessed the Goo at the start of the movie, this scene has to be set Millions of years ago at least... maybe a Billion.

The LV 426 crash Ridley has said occurred between 200 BC and 200 AD so they had the means to break down a Organisms DNA a long time before the Xeno or so it seems?

Not if the Goo maybe came from the Xeno or related? But we have to assume once they obtained the Goo at the Start of the movie, then they do not really need any other means to collect DNA.

The Goo will break down a target Organisms DNA into a substance that can be harvested i.e maybe as it was in the Urns and this makes more logical way to obtain DNA.