What's behind the door

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@Mr Ruhaniya

Glad your Maths is working ;)

Yeah i can make out 16 or 17 in this shot, but in the movie i could only make out 15 due to angles etc...

But its hard to count them as they are all twisted and in a heap, so could be 18, definately at least 15.

You could if there is 18 have a point about that 2 are missing, one our last Engineer!

Other Space Jockey?

But nope Ridley said the Space Jockey had crash landed on LV 426 within few hundred years of what happened to those Engineers in that image above, is that 200 or so before or after? We just dont know.

Also the Last Engineers Jugernaught has 3 other dead chest busted Engineers in their Cryo Pods.

As far as what lies behind that door..

Wll on the Map they seem to be positioned at this point in a Corridor that goes around the centre most room, then later when they encounter the Hammerpede it is on other side of this room.

so i would assume just as the other Engineers we saw Ran into the Head/Mural Room via one of the doors before it shut (cutting off the fallen Engineers head) it looks to me that the others who are pilled up was heading for the same room but the doors had all shut by then.

Could be wrong maybe need a second oppinion from someone else who has a better eye for detail.

Wow what a great question. When I look at the sceen of all the dead Engineers I do not see that a fight took place rather that these are the bodies of already dead engineers that have been put onto a pile like this against the door.

I do not know what to make of it as well. 

I think there could be another type of ceremonial tomb on the other side of the door. There is a lot of writing on the door. The writing could give us a better idea of whats behind it if we could translate some more of the characters.

Its a great question. I still want to know how all the engineers came to be in a pile like that as well.

Field and Milburn speak to Janek for the last time while discovering that pile of Engineers. 

The next morning Janek tells Shaw " the last time they radioed in was just outside where you found your head." 

So I think that confirms it's another entrance to the Mural room. 

As for why/ how they came to be piled up, I have no idea.

Don't play with fire or you get burned. 

I also believe that this is another entrance to the Big head room, probably the last door that shut trying to stop the containment. It also looks to me that these have been some sort of Deacons victims ( Hear the scream when Shaw watches the video archive. And its their reaction to the goo that looks like whats got them, just explode, whilst while its in humans it thrives. Something to do with reproductive organs? Which maybe Engineers do not have.

How mad that the goo is semi-based on ebola and thats back around now in africa! 

Well this is for most part what happens when the movie seems to follow Lindeloffs Script there is a lot of stuff that does not add up... it was a mess of sorts sorry to offend those who like the movie..... well based off his draft.

A lot of Concept work and Production work seems based on Spaights draft, take the Chest Busted Dead Cryo Pod Engineers, when you look at Spaights draft you can come up with... oh yes makes sense.

With Lindeloffs well its a Mystrey that even Scooby Do Gang would have trouble with and if that was case we could see Deacon get unmasked as Weyland and he say... "i would got away with it if it was not for them pesky kids" LOL

Anyway my point being that Spaights Draft they was all running to the Room with the big Hole in it and they was all trying to comit suicide.  will have to read Lindelofs again to see what his plan was as to be fair his draft is better than we got on screen but thats my oppinion which well ant the Gospel lol

Ok lets look at what we see..

First as other pointed out it pretty much looks like all the Engineers was running to the Mural/Big Head Room. Spaights draft they was all running to the Teraforming Room.

But then here is where it gets tricky....

1) If they was infected with the Goo then why would running to a Room full of Bio Weapon Urns, actually be seen as a sanctuary for the Engineers, its like we got infected with Ebola lets run into a room with Vases full of infected Ebola Blood shall we.

Unless that rooms envirmoment is able to keep the Bio Weapon in Stasis, and dorment, in which case being in there could prevent the infection taking hold fast, maybe wait out for someone to give them a cure.

Or that by going there they could get infected more and speed up their death?

2) We do hear like a Deacon Scream, yet if they are all running from such a creature then how come the Engineer Head exploded and showed signs of breaking down as if consumed the Goo like Holloway and the Sacrifical Engineer?

Also the bodies some look as if they burst out of the head and different parts of the body as opposed to being a impact/smashed blow from a outside force.

3) The movie points to comments made by Crew and one sugest its like a scene out of a Holocaust, this could sugest that those Engineers did not die there, but they was pilled up there and i am sure some of the crew said pilled up bodies in same sentance as Holocaust.

Which leads to how come there are no dead Engineers apart from that head in the Ampule/Big Head Room.  And how come the last Engineer was alive and others not.

Did he light the fuse to cause havock and get somewhere safe then after it was all said and done he simply did a bit of a tidy up... surely of some Deacon was on the lose how would the Engineer hide from it?

If the Engineers are contaminated and basically breaking down, then the Last Engineer could have got to a safe place and wait for them all to be broken down into just a vast chemical cocktail that exploded out of their suits.

so yes a lot of stuff does not quite add up, and if there was no Deacon? What made that sound? does it have to be a Scream? could be just sound of the Hollogram activating?

Also if there was no Deacon, then what happend to those other 3 Engineer Cryo Pods?

So yes it think a lot of the draft was not thought out too well..

Spaights was coherent, just a bit too Aliens for my liking. Lindelofs was better just a tad to much abiguity a tad too less Xeno DNA connection and well none coherent.

" Something to do with reproductive organs? Which maybe Engineers do not have."

Who knows, it does seem that something to do with the reproductive cycle of Humans i.e matting between Holloway and Shaw is what was needed to  facilitate the creation of anything related to the Face Huger as Shaws baby was basically similar to a Face Huger.

We do not see a Engineers privates, what we do see is we dont see any Females, but that dont mean there are not any and the Engineer (Sacrifice) did not have any nipples.

Here is why Humans have them...

Why men have nipples.

I wont type here as mentions private part names, but basically a Human Embryo starts off as one sex and depending on if it has a Y chromosome  then the Fetus will develop into a Male and the Some Female Parts dont develop and others are changed to male parts... if there is no Y chromosome  then the Fetus becomes Female..

 

So maybe this means our Engineers are neither Male or Female and thus Sterile and thus they can not procreate by natural means..

Hopefully, we'll get a better idea in the next film, considering Lindelof won't be involved with the script. It's too bad that sci-fi writers like Alien's Dan O' Bannon and Ron Shusett don't exist anymore.

Maybe they were running into the murel room to use that green shard, whatever that is. Or maybe they were trying to pray to the big head or something. Maybe they knew they were gonna die, but it had to be in that room, kind of sacrificial room?? If the deacon was about then (2000 years ago) would it stay or move on? I wished they'd gone into another pyramids. The way I think it went is they carrying on with seeding life on planets or updating in earths case, this was the base, and they had outbreak and tried containing it,but could not and ultimately all died apart from few.   I dont really know man theres so much stuff unexplained I dunno if I've contradicted myself lol but yeah hopefully the new film will explain and not be another mirror  maze wrapped in an oasis lol

Yep there is a whole lot of mystrey and ambiguity so that means anything can go...

The Green Shard is odd, as in the Trailers we saw the Sacrifical Bowl instead and the Altar has like canals running down it, as if something could either run from the Bowl down the Channels or something could run up them and into the Bowl.

If you see some of my old posts i kind of made a connection between the Mural, the Urns, the Goo in them and the Altar if we considered the Sacrifical Bowl Version and looked at how Spaights Bio Weapon worked i.e nano scarabs.

Anyway as i said that well we could throw anything to explain the scenes and can you then rule it out... such as..

What if these Engineers infected themselves, on purpose and they was to then run into that room and maybe to the Mural Door or the Altar for a reason to allow them to be Sacrificed to some how provide what is needed to fill the Ampules up...

And that they was running away from someone who was trying to stop them getting to that Room for some reason....

Just another scenerio that like the others can not be ruled out... lol

As for the DEACON well i have a very good theory about them and i could do a post on them that will state various explanations for them. Or could find a Deacon thread and add to it.

Basically i think the Deacon Traits are optained simply as how the Xeno-related DNA, Evolves a Engineer.... one problem with this is the beast in the Fresco as it does not look like a Deacon if the beast comes from the Engineers DNA/Sacrifice.

I think the Prometheus Fire and Stone Comic will give us more clues.

An interesting point is that the decapitated Engineer's head stayed incorrupt. It wasnt until reanimation on Prometheus led it to explode, like the bodies on the pile. So either the Head Room's environment prohitted the mutation's growth or that death stopped the process. Could this be why the other Engineers could have been trying to get through this door, if indeed it did lead into the Head Room?..... 

Pretty sure its the door to the toilet I mean they dont even have a penis - must be lots of pee pee saved up! looks like it came out there heads while trying to get in...

@djamelameziane

lol..

Close..... yeah your onto maybe the right thing, as i did make out from the clues that maybe these Engineers if infected the same way as the one who  lost his head, thus broken down at a slower rate than the Sacrifice Engineer then we have a lot of liquid/broken down substance that would surely be a voilent cocktail reaction that would have to at some point explode out of its container.. (Space Jockey suits).

But then we had that Deacon like Scream, why would Engineers be running into a Room containing Bio Weapon Urns containing the Goo they are already contaminated with?  And while it looks like maybe some holes could be from being punchtured from outside... and we also have Chest Busted Cryo Pods..

Why oh why does this movie leave us a mess of clues for near every possible explanation.

If this was a crime Scene it would be a Forensics Nightmare! (or maybe Wet Dream?)

Or maybe they was playing Blind Date and only a few lucky ones got to get a Date with a Deacon lol

maybe there was a bio weapon inside which could be used against whatever was chasing them. As the Deacon was born via human DNA I dont think it would have been a Deacon like Xeno. I think it was the original Xeno creature (with a tail) which lead to the Space Jockey's child and ultimately laid the eggs on the derilict and therfore spawned the Alien we all know and love.......

Well we dont know for sure....

Only clues i have gained point to most likely the Urns contain Weaponised broken down material taken from Sacrificing something related to that Mural...

This does not have to be the Xeno, as i said in another post at some point maybe a faction of Engineers came to admire the creation of some Deacon creature created by Experiments with something related to the Xeno Egg,  and they created a number of things but then they created a Decon, as in the Mural, they worshiped this as a perfect stage of Evolution and just how they used the Sacrifice Scene to spread the DNA of the Engineers to create us in their image they now want to use same method to pass on the DNA of the Creature in the Mural onto Mankind.

As far as Shaws Deacon... this was a plot device to show us some connection via the Goo in those Urns and the Xeno DNA... this Deacon was Human/Hybrid because well.

1) It had a placenta ...

2) It appears fully formed like Mamals are to Adults, just smaller and cute versions of the Adult Form, so from a Baby to Adult we dont change a lot, and i expect same with Shaws Deacon Gran Child.

3) The Deacon has fingers and feet like a Human, and its teeth are enamel based like ours and Mammals.

This is because i feel Shaws Baby Squid is like a Face Hugger only it is not pure one like the Xeno Eggs, what we have is a Face Huger type Organism that is part or maybe mostly Human DNA at Face Hugger Stage.

As far as what ever is chassing the Engineers, well the movie hints to a infection so is that like Holloway?  if so how did they get infected orally? or was it like Fifield but then surely the purpose of the Space Jockey suits is to protect against such things?

The drafts seem to hint in Spaights they was trying to kill themselves so as not to be transformed into something.... Lindeloffs hints at damage caused by being attacked, one minute and then infection with Goo the next.

But the Mural is not just for show, it and the frescos seems to show that either some kind of Face Hugers came from something they created or experimented on, or that something they experiemented on and created originated from something related to a Face Huger.

Also we have to ask about those Chest Busted Cryo Pods... in Spaights draft they was 100% Chest Busted, and the Concept work they showed Engineers in Space Jockey suits that looked identical to the Chest Busted Space Jockey in Alien.