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Cerulean Blue

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The Ampule room has the mural that appears to show the life cycle of the Xeno.

The Derelict in Alien is full of eggs & is supposedly thousands of years old.

So my question is this:

What came first?

Did the Engineers create/discover the Xeno who then made the eggs, or did the Engineers first discover the eggs that then became Xenos?

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@Shambs..

 

Yes that Alien 3 script does have as i have said, seema to have some of its unused ideas that are then used in future movies. Each movie in franchise seems to borrow some unused concepts from a previous and Prometheus Mutation Elements could have got inspiration from that Alien 3 draft.

 

@djamelameziane

 

Indeed Ridley left us some interesting thoughts, just as he said if we was to do a Alien 5 he would visit the Alien homeworld... does he mean Xenos? He could meant Space Jockey.

 

Likewise by he did not want to meet God as being something other than Engineers but it could be the Elders, you see the Elder Scene was cut for a reason and he was not happy at the look of them and they did not seem so God like but frail.

Also a lot of the Engineer scenes got cut down, scenes that appeared to show the Engineer to be more than just a mindless thug hell bent on taking down mankind.

 

To me this points to a redesign to the Elders, and a portrayal that the Engineers are now intended to be mere servents created to perform tasks that the Elders no longer have to.  So yes similar to how David was created to serve Mankind.

 

We can not however rule out that their is some higher being or beings at the top of the hierarchy i.e above Engineers and Elders, and would these beings be Humanoid? or something else?

 

Who knows but i guess we would find out in Paradise.

 

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Impossible to know, maybe the Enginees found it, there is much ambiguity on this movie with thousands of questions.
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shambs
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They also built a cathedral dedicated to the creature

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Visionary Alpha
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The black goo was a solution that tiny creatures were kept in.
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@Redant: You should be open to new story telling with the aliens. The original movie wasn't meant to forbid any more using itself as source material. It is a classic, but Aliens added so much to it, and they established in Aliens that the xenomorph is very intelligent. They have art, they knew how to "cut the power", and they long memories, inherited on some cellular level from their ancestors. I don't want to scare anyone, but they could be far more powerful than we've seen.
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@Big Dave, considering the fact that they used a combination between that early Alien 3 screeplay and the Star Beast proyect; it is quite posible that there is still old material for the sequel, like the Dan O' Bannon' s original script (see the Svanya's Thread) which has some religious style elements in relation to the sacrifices and the life cycle of the monster.

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@Oduodu,


"Redant Why do you think the engineers are half the size of the space jockey 
in alien ?"

This is such a good question! and know I not embarrassed by not seeing this observation at all. Good point Oduodu!

 

All I can say is when I watched the Prometheus film I thought wow so this how they are going to explain what the space jockey is underneath what was sitting in the chair on the ship in the Alien movie.

To me the Engineers' space suit looks like the space jockey. At this point I am not sure I can confidently say that the script writer and Scott had this intended purpose to make us think that the Engineers in their space suits are supposed to explain what the space jockey is; but, you have to admit they look really close. 

And yes yes yes I know the space jockey looks like it is all bones. Those bones look like they go right into the head right??? Yeah how about this for real problem. Remember the scene where they were reanimating the head. Well when they are looking at while it’s on the table they don't realize it is wearing a helmet till they scan it. I know, I am frustrated by all of this as well.

 

I just want this to be a bit easier and in some ways I love this stuff so much but I can't speculate on it so much either. I just want to enjoy everyone’s ideas and the films too, and my own. So when all this competes too much I just go with my gut instinct on this stuff. 

 

 

 

 

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They decided to go with a shorter engineer for technical reasons. They couldn't fit a taller one in the shots they wanted, or say they said. But they may make full size engineers in the future, as "the elders". That's the chant on it, anyway.
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I'm sure I read/heard somewhere that the mural was a 'nod' to the fans. The mural shows something like the 'deacon' but the surrounding art is from the Giger illustration of the 'life-cycle' of the Alien e.g. it shows his early drafts of the face-hugger etc. This notion of a fan-pleasing 'nod' would explain the content of the mural but if this is the case, it has proverbially thrown the 'cat amongst the pigeons' as it has led to the surrounding debate on this thread. Whilst I loved the film 'Prometheus' my personal criticism (or perhaps fearful suspicion) is that a lot of the themes/ideas were not fully formed and thought through - which has led to such persistent debate and re-analysis (perhaps a good thing). I'm sure this comment about a 'nod' was referenced and I have a feeling it may have been Lindelof. Anyway interesting ideas abound....
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Redant

http://www.prometheus2-movie.com/community/forums/topic/27017

You might find this thread I started insightful. 

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