Strange discovery about the ampules room fresco

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granolaboy

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Hello Spacepeople ! Back in the forum with an exciting stuff... or at least I hope so ! If this has been already discussed, please don't blame me. So everybody wanders what is the strange creature kneeling under the engineer on the fresco of the ampules room. Today a friend sends me an old artwork from giger about early concept of the facehugger. Guess what ? This old facehugger concept art has the same "birdy" head as the creature of the fresco !!! I don't have a clue of the possible meaning of that but I want all of you to share your feelings about this !!! Pictures are below : [img]http://i.imgur.com/mIV3X.jpg[/img] [img]http://gayscifinerds.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Giger-facehugger.jpg[/img]

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October 03, 2013

Ridleygrams part two here http://weyland-yutaniarchives.blogspot.com/2013/01/alien-unseen-part-two-production.html

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October 03, 2013

Granolaboy I created this thread. Have a look at it . http://www.prometheus2-movie.com/community/forums/topic/27017

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October 03, 2013

Argh ! I lost my reply :( So let's do it short and ledgible or at least I let's try :) Here is what I understood while reading your post and seeing preproduction and deleted scenes from Alien : The Xeno would have eventually died quickly because it is only a step in the evolution of the species. It is programmed to make cocoons (or eggs) using other living beings and morph them into some nesting stuff. This is what we saw in the deleted scene where Dallas and Brett are captured by the Xeno and going under a the proces of"egg transformation". BUT I always thought it was meant to be facehugger eggs ! What you suggest ( if I understand you properly) is that this the final step of evolution of the xeno (adulthood) that would have came out of the cocoons if Ripley haven't burnt all the mess ! I'm crazy of this idea, this gives me a totally fresh vision of the franchise. Maybe the birdy creature seen on the fresco is the final xeno ? Ok, we have not enough indications in Prometheus to make the link but that's always good for speculative minds ! Now that i think about it, I never understood the original poster of the Alien movie : the one with the white broken egg and the green goo. This doesn't look like the facehugger eggs we see in the movie. Could it be a clue to the original idea of Ridley ?

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October 03, 2013

That a good question. The egg broken with green goo. Never thought of that before. Dunno. I now scrap the insect idea thing because I now see its not what ridley intended. But I vaguely remember something about ridley thinking about the xeno as insect and not as a lizard or mamal type organism. That's why got the idea that he was thinking if the xeno as a insect kind of creature that was going to morph to a final adult stage . I could never understand why a supposedly perfect creature would live only for 24 hours and then die. What the point of that ? In orometheus we have a black goo that will morph you in about 24 hours. So there a correlation there I suppose. So the perfect organism dies within 24 hours ? That's why I thought maybe it was starting to morph into whatever and knew to go to the lifeboat. That's the reason why it didn't kill Ripley as it knew it needed her to survive the nuclear blast of the nostromo. But if it was morphing on the lifeboat then what was it morphing into or was it just dying ?

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October 03, 2013

Remember it a human skull and probably a human brain as well . What it created for ?

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October 04, 2013

Similar poses ? [img]http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f291/sabres21768/AlienReference/ALIEN/normal_productionstill99_027.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/mIV3X.jpg[/img]

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August 30, 2014

Is the birdy creature going under a process of mutation on the fresco ?
It seems that the top of its head is distorted and bubbling. We saw the same effect happening to Fiefield and the dead engineer because their body had been corrupted by the goo.
Does the fresco tell us that engineers made experiment on this creature or that engineer were "born" of mutated birdy xeno ???

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August 31, 2014

We simply dont know....

The Fresco is very God and Adam fresco in which case the Engineer is God and Birdy is well Adam, this could hint that this Organism is created from Engineer.. But the Engineers pose seems to be as if it is pushing away from the creature... But then maybe petting it? But then the Engineer is looking down wards... Its as if he is giving a blessing to this creature.

The creature is in a submissive pose or a fetal one like a chlid in the womb...

It is very Ambigious... What is its purpose.... yes looks like it has a beak.... could it be the Eagle that Pecks at Prometheus day after day, thus this Engineer is Prometheus the one who stole the fire to maybe create Mankind?

Then again it does not have to be a Beak...

I want to point out Dan O'Bannons idea for the Alien... before Giger came on board..

Look familiar?

Now Check out this concept work for what the inside of the Temple in Star Beast that the Eggs/Urns was found in.....

Do you notice the creature that is Sacrificed on the Altar in the Fresco behind it? This Fresco near Altar is like Promethues one behind that Altar.. what we see is a creature that is like O'Bannons Alien design with what looks like a Octopoid Organism like Shaws Baby that Face Hugged the Last Engineer.

Are these any connection? Who knows?

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Strange discovery about the ampules room fresco

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