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granolaboy

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Hello Spacepeople ! Back in the forum with an exciting stuff... or at least I hope so ! If this has been already discussed, please don't blame me. So everybody wanders what is the strange creature kneeling under the engineer on the fresco of the ampules room. Today a friend sends me an old artwork from giger about early concept of the facehugger. Guess what ? This old facehugger concept art has the same "birdy" head as the creature of the fresco !!! I don't have a clue of the possible meaning of that but I want all of you to share your feelings about this !!! Pictures are below : [img]http://i.imgur.com/mIV3X.jpg[/img] [img]http://gayscifinerds.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Giger-facehugger.jpg[/img]
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Hehe love the TurkeyBurster design. :P

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Now why didn't Ridley put that in Prometheus instead of that ridiculous squid thingy?

The poster was good though!

 

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Maybe he wants to keep it mysterious until prometheus 2 ! Sounds to me that these engineers were doing crazy genetics stuff with the goo... but to reach what ? We still can't put the fingers on the purpose.
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Aw Necro I liked the squid!
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Do you think that this "turkey head" could mean something in the prometheus plot ? Looking at this pictures I can see some weird connection between the face of the birdy kneeling creature and the old facehugger design from Giger. Could it be a clue to some other important creature from the engineer universe or is it just random use by Ridley of old concept art from Giger ? Can't wait for more speculations !
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LOL the 'turkeyburster' aside, there are similarities with that beak-like mouth. To answer your last question granolaboy, I have no idea! Unless this creature makes some some sort of appearance, or is referred to in the sequel, I guess we'll just have to assume it's one of many Giger concepts which have been reworked!

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@Major Noob, you liked the squid. To each their own, for every man a religion. :-)

The poster was good though!

 

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I like Shaw's burster as well, but it's not a squid! To me, it looks like (and makes sense as) literally a Black-Goo infected Hooloway Sperm cell. (Correct me if i'm crazy, but It looks like a friggin' Alien sperm!!!) I agree that the beak has some resemblence, but so do all Alienesque creatures. Seems they are varieties of the same thing.
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Squid or mutate sperm cell, we can asume this is the same :) To go back to the original thread, I have the feeling that this creature with a beak could be an important part of the equation to solve the mystery around engineer belief and technology. I even think it's possible that the design of the "spacejockey suit" is related to them. We have seen in the movie , the suit is like an exoskeleton and the helmet looks more like a bird head. Before Prometheus we used to refere this design as a elephantine looking due to the trunk connected on the helmet... but now it's clear that this is much a birdy or even an eagle shape. That's fit perfectly in the original prometheus mythology. [img]http://www.prometheus2-movie.com/media/spacejockey_prometheus_helmet.jpg[/img] I would love to learn more about this species in the sequel ! Maybe they are an ancestor of the engineer, or the God they took the fire from !
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Agreed! I would love to learn more about this potential "missing link" species! Very cool looking! I always wondered if the Engineers on LV223 were using these amazing creatures (xenos, bird headed things, etc) to genetically improve themselves. The suit we see at the end looks like an integrated part of the engineer, and it is highly similar to the Xeno form. Chicken or egg?
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Mmmmm Chicken! I'm starting to think that the hunched over creature, in the mural, is some primitive lifeform (Engineer or human) that the engies experimented on with the black stuff, resulting in it looking the way it does. Maybe it was that creature that was chasing the engineers down the halls in the hologram? The engineer in the mural looks to me like he is trying to get away from it!

The poster was good though!

 

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@granolaboy - Thanks for the Giger connection! IMHO - It is always important when we find something new that can be traced back to his original Alien work, as it is significant to what may be going on in Prometheus. Great thread!
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@cerulean blue - There is so much in Giger work that sometimes (ok very often I admit) I have the feeling he is the real storyteller behind all this twisted tale...
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Yea, that is even scarier!
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Ooooh ! Seems that we find back the strange head creature decorating the top of the Archway to the ampules room : [img]http://www.prometheus2-movie.com/media/concept073.jpg[/img] This has to be some godlike being, or some animal connected to the engineer's beliefs or even Religious faith (like Egyptian mythology had Horus or toth). If not, why would it be everywhere in this temple ? What do you think about ?
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Granolaboy Thanks for posting the last image. From the storyboards of alien is was often thought that the xeno was morphing to its last stage of adulthood. Could this be what the adult xeno would have looked like ?
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I've never heard about this possible final stage of xeno adulthood. I'm very curious and interested about this Oduodu ! Is there some concept arts or readings related to this "last morphing" ?
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Granolaboy http://www.prometheus2-movie.com/community/forums/topic/22036
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Ridleygrams !!! Thanks a lot for sharing Oduodu !
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Granolaboy One of the posts indicate that the xeno was able to morph to another stage. Maybe I misunderstood. I always thought that the xenoo in alien didn't attack ripley because it knew the ship would explode and needed het to pilot the lifeboat. Also that was in its final stage of morphing. But the poster indicated that the morphing was towards eggs and not a final stage as such. As I remember it ridleys ideas was that the xeno was like an insect and that made me think that he meant that the xeno was like an insect that had to morph to its final stage like a butterfly . Sorry if I misunderstood. I guess the xeno was just dying. Sorry

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