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Why Prometheus is terrible.

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AgentMothman

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I know a lot of you here liked this movie, but I found someone who brilliantly wrote a summery of this movie and it's downright idiocy. Keep in mind I did not write this, but I loved it so much that I think you should all read it. Here it goes. This is held up to be cinematic brilliance by the fans here. Ten million years ago (according to Ridley) on a planet that may not be earth (despite Ridley also saying it was ten million years ago) an alien stood at the lip of a waterfall and ingested gloop which killed him. This (according to Ridley) is an engineer seeding life (despite life already being there and despite there being much less nasty ways of accomplishing spreading DNA around). But hey, religion, because this is a movie about religion and if you want people doing crazy stupid things for no good reason then religion is by far the best way for them to rationalise their stupid actions. Anyway this event, which may have happened on another planet, despite it clearly intended to be this planet 10 million years ago, produced us. (Trumpets please!) Except if you know anything about evolution then this explanation is clearly bunk, and from here on in you only know it will get worse. So, the aliens continued to visit and interact with ancient civilisations because obviously we need aliens as an explanation to tell us how to pile rocks into pointy shapes, despite us knowing that's the only tall stable structure you can build if your civilisation hasn't invented mortar. Whatever, the aliens apparently interacted with us, such that we believed them gods and they left us lots of star maps. Except they didn't draw these themselves with lasers or anything, creating perfectly accurate maps, no, they let primitive man finger daub and chisel these bloody maps everywhere. That they did this is explained later by Holloway and Shaw who we're introduced to on the Isle of Skye who discover yet another star map and this somehow convinces them more concretely than the previous half dozen they already know about, that our gods were aliens. So anyway, some point between the Isle of Skye and the next scene, Holloway and Shaw meet Peter Wayland who is obsessed with not dying and who pays out a trillion dollars to toddle off into space based on finger daubings 35,000 years out of date on a planet where the stars undergo precession and not only that, move. He builds the Prometheus, because having done one spaceship which carried a foreboding name, Ridley Scott just can't help doing it again. Anyway, the Prometheus we see in the next shot, merrily blasting it's way through the stars, it's engines kicking out loads of noise which you can't actually hear in space. Then we cut to the inside, to see android David wandering about. There is gravity on the ship. At some point in the future we have mastered gravity, meaning we don't actually need the large engines, but whatever. David beams messages to the Engineers, invades peoples dreams just to let you know who the religious one is on board and talks to Weyland who is faking his own death for reasons which are never offered. The crew wake up as they approach LV-223. Charlize Theron wakes up and does pushups and a lot of people think Ridley is great for making it ambiguous she's an android despite this scene. She's just a hardass. The crew establish themselves as unlikeable halfwits, hired by an unlikeable hardass for a trillion dollar mission because hey, the budget ran out and they couldn't hire competent people. There's a briefing, wherein they're told they've all come all this way because two dolts made a stellar assumption based on old finger paintings and a crazy trillionaire believed them. The biologist mentions 300 years of Darwin which might make a mockery of her theory. Shaw ignores him and he's later killed first for the temerity of using his brain (the only time in the movie he actually does). Shaw meanwhile seems happy to reconcile the belief that we're created by aliens and a belief in God. Clearly she's an idiot. We arrive at LV-223, a moon orbiting a gas giant. On earth, when one side of the planet is near the sun the other side is at night. This short difference in distance results in the temperature differentials between night and day. Consider now, I invite you, what the temperature would be like on a similar body orbiting a gas giant between when it's close to the sun and when it's on the far side of the planet. Yeah. I know, right? Consider also that gas giants have massive gravitational force, such that they can cause tidal phenomena in rock just as our moon can cause it in water. Now look at the planet. Yeah. I know, right? Anyway, the Prometheus plunges into the atmosphere, because that's what you do, you don't orbit, don't survey, don't scan, don't do any of those things you might want to do before landing. No, you just plunge right in. Amazingly, they find a pyramid and some Nazca lines straight away because -movies. There is six hours of daylight left. Gotta pile out and explore then! The atmosphere we've already been told has toxic level of carbon dioxide, except it doesn't because - science fail (there's a lot of them). We're told as they're suiting up that David doesn't breathe. Bear this in mind when he later plays a flute people. We also see they've apparently only brought one security guy. Because that's what you do. We also see this guy thinks a flamethrower is the way to go because - hey, Alien movie. They go into the pyramid (why is it a pyramid? because Ridley has apparently become affected by Freemasonry somewhere along the line, hence this comparative mythology garbage we're watching). The geologist has mapping balls which he releases. Again, we've built these things and yet there's large engines on the ship, but whatever. We're 25 minutes in, the movie is staggering under the weight of it's own idiocy and yet there's more to come.
�That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die.� ~ H.P. Lovecraft
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Batchpool
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@ Korpen I don’t know if you agree, yes it’s just a movie but there can be a fine line between criticism and insult. The thread title does not really suggest criticism imo.

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Agentmothman- here's the thing: those of us who liked Prometheus are dead tired of senseless vitriol by "critics" who need to pleasure themselves at the expense of accomplished artists ( this is undeniable ) who poured themselves into a daring project and produced a true marvel. There are those who are genuinely disappointed and even betrayed by this new direction and then there are the rest: silly effete dilettantes who will seize on any detail and tear it apart , no matter how trite or pointless the argument, because the Internet and cable have empowered anyone with a keyboard, a half baked idea or both and propelled them to the media stage. Prometheus was a fun, exciting movie produced by masters, something we don't get too often. It's an offering. It deserves a little respect. Everyone is different, we all have our tastes, and its one thing to dislike it, or to be disappointed by it, but to slather it with gleeful hatred when there is so, so very much worse on view is just preposterous. No offense to you, and I've said it before, your avatar rocks.
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Prometheus is a great movie and it really needs no defense from anyone. The critique was extreme and was funny at points but I can't see taking it too serious or getting upset by it. The guy did make some valid points and yes lets face it, Melbourne was an idiot regardless of how good Prometheus was and Holloway did act like a jerk to David and I felt that he got what he deserved so I can't see getting down on the critic. We here who have all seen the movie countless times are fully aware of its pitfalls but to its credit, even with all its flaws, its still an amazing movie so those of you who take offense to someone blasting this movie need to just relax. The critique does belong here because all things related to Prometheus can teach us valuable things about it. There is even a page here devoted to opinions especially for people who didn't like the movie. A valid critique is as useful as one that is completely pro.
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*snarl*
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Easy Major Noob!!!
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"is prometheus a good movie?"...." yes, next stupid question"
"how do you feel?"-" great, next stupid question"
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claudius
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it s a hard movie maybe the hardest about religion,but my wish for paradise is to be more easy and then more people will understand!you mast go far then everybody else to understand this movie and see far than artistic image.
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Quite funny article. No doubt, Prometheus divides people. And I´m on the fence..well..the flaws, the plot holes, the weak character development..we all have been there. The point is IMO to rate it AS A SCIENCE FICTION movie. It is NOT a realistic movie. Nor religious. The ART of good story telling in Sci-Fi is actually to make it LOOK reasonable, plausible or whatever the good concept is. It doesnt have to cost 150 Mio dollars either. It IS bad when it fails its own concept or looks like ´if only just´..like Pro..it is only VISUALLY stunning, what is too less. ok, It could have been WORSE..battleship..
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Claudius, not quite sure what you are saying here. Regarding Prometheus, I wouldn't want them to make it more accessible to people by simplifying it or taking out some of the controversial aspects of it so I am not sure what you are asking but it you are suggesting this then I would strongly disagree. Correct me if I got your post wrong.
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Like Blade Runner, the deleted material is huge. I still think that FOX should bring out us a new edition, is a film with a very short footage, in my opinion.
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as I said, 2001 ODISSEY is a classic, but the footage is more extensive, Prometheus has much symbolism hidden but may to be short, is it an adventure, with a unreal final? That alien spaceship taking off is truly realistic? or is it just a simply Shaw s dream? That's how I see it. Mythology and symbolism go hand in a film with a very religious tendency. Why not happen same with 2001 then?, the film was not censored and criticized by the Catholic faith at that time. Because there was not any representation of God, but in Prometheus there are many, including Deacon crucified.

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