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Custodian
MemberOvomorphOctober 13, 2012there were a lot of doors that David opened or decyphered, was the 'green crystal' at the back of the ampule room 'altar' i.e. ALIEN MURAL another door?
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I've seen the film twice now, once at the cinema, once on library-borrowed DVD, and I can't remember whether that door was ever opened, or whether it was in the right part of the Temple to be a door i.e. was it an EXTERIOR WALL?
In fact, did it DISSOLVE (like all the other embossed muralisation in that sealed storage area) once the crew's dirty breath had affected the air?
Can anyone 'shed light' upon this darkest of enigmas?
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October 13, 2012
Well I know some think the 'green crystal has' no bearing on the story. Having given it much thought, I think it may have some significance.
I'm not sure about it's position within the ship, but I don't think it could have been an outer wall. Nor do I think it dissolved, like the ceiling murals.
What if the crystal, when activated, opened the door with the 'Deacon/Alien' relief? It does look like an entrance to another chamber. Pity the crew couldn't have explored further! There may be very important secrets waiting to be discovered in there!
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
October 13, 2012
I promised I wouldn't do this again, but I can't stop myself. that's not a deacon relief it is a straight up Xeno relief. There's even pictures of facehugger implantations on the bottom left and right corners. The depictions look nothing like squiddie from the movie. I had always speculated that this was a xeno life cycle depiction. this proves it beyond doubt.
Safe? Of course he isn't safe, but he's good!
October 13, 2012
Lone,
yeah, but FOOLS RUSH IN, right? They'd just landed, night was falling, what did Holloway do? Exactly, didn't give the narrative time to breathe. Choked any potential to death. Literally. Silly, impetuous, drunkard Holloway.
I suspect that (even in this non-Giger'd) Prometheus world THE FACEHUGGER is going to turn out to be the Great Unsung Hero of [b]everlasting life[/b]. Remember, millennia ago, the original SpaceJockey was ceremonially transporting a whole cargo of these ESSENTIAL LONGEVITIY DEVICES, these facehugger primed Eggs to somewhere...
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October 13, 2012
@Myrddin365 OK, OK Alien Relief then!
I used 'Deacon' as that's how some people refer to it! The mural depicts "a pointy-headed Giger-esque creature, which appears to have been crucified", to quote the Art of the film.
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
October 13, 2012
In the pic at the top there is a face with it's eyes closed just above the deacon. Am I seeing things.
October 13, 2012
what images do you all see in this mural. I see two engineers or humans with face hungers attached (bottom left & right) two more face huggers above that, the Deacon in the middle center, and another face above the deacons head with it's eyes closed.
October 13, 2012
It kinda of makes sense that the wall mural might have been a sealed corridor cause on the holographic display there was a couple of engineers that made it into the room but their bodies weren't in there? Where did they go? The green crystal thing was pointing to the mural so perhaps it is part of the technology that created the mural and sealed the passage out of the room.
October 13, 2012
When they first enter the ampule chamber and Hollowhead walks upto the altar, he says "just another tomb" (grave). There's somethin on the other side of that mural, i'd put a tenner on it! But what?
Also, Ruhaniya is right, the engineers, in the hologram, run into the ampule chamber, but there is no sign of their bodies inside the room?
The engineers that Milburn and Fifield discover are not in the ampule chamber, so where did those engineers go?
The poster was good though!
October 13, 2012
They legged it up the shaft that's above the Big Head (check out the graphic at 1:02:30).
But I'd like to think it's a door with something unspeakably nasty behind it.
The most terrifying fact about the universe is not that it is hostile but that it is indifferent
October 14, 2012
Actually, yeah ... why would the Engineers run TOWARDS the ampule room at all?
It's a sealed chamber, right? We know this because when the humans breathed their filthy exhalation all over it, the murals started dissolving.
Did the alien mural dissolve i.e. had it vanished in later ampule room scene with Milburn, Fifield and 'friendly neighbourhood arm breaker'? Cos, I'm thinking, "If it didn't dissolve, how could it slide open? Surely, its own severe embossment would be a handicap to a smooth vertical opening action..."
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October 14, 2012
@Custodian, stop complicating things further, we have enough unanswered questions as it is! LOL
But yeah why would the fleeing Engineers run into the ampule room, unless there was some way out of there, or another chamber/exit leading off of it!
Just a thought, what if they went inside the giant head? It could lead to the level beneath!
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
October 14, 2012
@custodian "Actually, yeah ... why would the Engineers run TOWARDS the ampule room at all?"
I was watching the movie again today. Looks to me that all the other engineers ran away through the corridor except one. This engineer stopped to close this door before he died and was decapitated by it. This room was probably the most important room in the entire facility/temple. I believe this room was breached by whoever killed the engineers and left the door open.
Still, i don't understand why the security recording never showed the attacker...
October 14, 2012
Koujil,
stealth, or erasure? Gah, the plot thickens, thicklier than thick.
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October 14, 2012
"stealth, or erasure?"
I believe erasure. There is green goo on that "security control panel" that David activates. It was clearly manipulated by something... sentient and smart.
What is more puzzling is that the green goo is just like Xenomorph saliva/secretion from previous movies. There is a kind of screech when they first activate the hologram recording and they are clearly running away from whatever makes that noise... maybe the species on the mural?
October 14, 2012
Oh, wow, what ideas you have -- all the better to terrify you with, eh?
:)
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October 14, 2012
Anyone ever thought that maybe this mural was created when this was set as a true alien prequel? And you might note that in the movie you can't see the facehuggers in any shots of the mural. And if you can't see it in the movie much like a deleted scene it never happened. Or in this case we can't prove the facehugger is there in the context of the film. Just a thought.
October 15, 2012
In the theatrical version, when David touches the green goo on the door access panel, he rubs it together with his fingers and spreads it apart, it appeared to have tiny molecules swirling around. He looked at it closely and said, "Impressive..". I think we should be asking more questions about the Green Goo, Mural, and Green Crystal.
Comacoz
October 15, 2012
If you watch the film you will notice very obviously that the pups stop outside of any obstruction which is hollow on the door to the ampule chamber and the bridge etc. So if it was a door the pups would have hovered outside until it was opened.
A looong time ago I thought that it was a door as well. I brought up what Holloway said. But Scott says in the commentary that Holloway says "This is just another tomb" because he's been discovering tombs through out his carrer and is upset that they are all dead and he won't get to meet his maker.
And the Engineers didn't all run into the room. They kept running down the corridor. The other stops to shut the door, is overtaken by the infection and falls. His head doesn't burst becuase he's decapitated leaving him dead before it could run it's full coarse.
As far as the mural, I believe Giger's original facehugger design painting was incorporated simply as an easter egg for fanboys and as a nod to Giger's original genius.
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October 15, 2012
Correction...Ridley says they did run into the ampule chamber and that there was a trap door inside which the other engineers went thru. Perhaps my first instinct was right afterall. Doesn't explain why the pup didn't stop at it.
However, if the mural was in fact the trap door you would think that the pup would be able to figure out it was a door.
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