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Engineers in the Dream of Dr. Shaw

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el hologramador

MemberOvomorphJun-23-2012 12:11 AM
Hi guys! i've just come from seeing for 3rd time this awesome movie. Just want to let you know that in Dr. Shaw dream, when her father ask her what does she believe (about heaven & afterlife) you can se a little engineer boy staring at her. Dont you think there is a big coincidence... about DAVID and Goliath.. i mean... its like its the story upsidedown... in this case.. goliath cut david's head off... intereseting... by the way.. then he kills Weyland with David's head.!! Brilliant! Sorry for my english!
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PaintedScars

MemberOvomorphJun-23-2012 3:36 AM
Well, I'm going to see it a third time tomorrow, I'll check for that, Thanks!

metalos

MemberOvomorphJun-23-2012 3:06 AM
el hologramador: That is not an Engineer boy, that is David, because he is in her dream.

Jett

MemberOvomorphJun-23-2012 12:32 AM
Your English is fine...I didnt see the boy in Shaw's dream but I will look for him next time I see the film. Killing Weyland with his Android's head was perfect irony. The film has so much in it that you really have to see it more than once and once we get the home version it will become even more clear

Nuck Chorris

MemberOvomorphJun-23-2012 4:28 AM
Yeah, buy the ticket, thats the only language that the studios understand that we want MORE serious sci-fi (though many flews in prometheus..).

Nuck Chorris

MemberOvomorphJun-23-2012 10:30 AM
Well i dont see any engineer in shaws dream watching at her - can you send a screenshot and mark that guy? Or can you pleaze tell me what you are smoking actually to see things?

Nuck Chorris

MemberOvomorphJun-23-2012 10:34 AM
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Nuck Chorris

MemberOvomorphJun-23-2012 10:34 AM
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Nuck Chorris

MemberOvomorphJun-23-2012 10:34 AM
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MemberOvomorphJun-23-2012 10:34 AM
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Nuck Chorris

MemberOvomorphJun-23-2012 10:34 AM
100000 POST IS MINE!!! haha

el hologramador

MemberOvomorphJun-23-2012 10:44 PM
you should see it again.... before the dream dissapear... you can see a little engineer boy staring at her.... it last no more than 1 second. Just when her father asked WHAT DO U BELIEVE? check it out... trust me!

Nuck Chorris

MemberOvomorphJun-24-2012 2:38 AM
NO i dont see it. why dont you put a screenshot here?

metalos

MemberOvomorphJun-24-2012 11:45 AM
el hologramador: That is not an Engineer boy, that is David in her dream.

Indy John

MemberOvomorphJan-16-2013 7:06 AM
Speaking of Shaw's dream I wonder just how much truth is being presented. In my dreams there may be people that i have known but they are in places i have been but they had never seen. The dream's location might have been my last job but the people with me were from decades earlier. People I have known, in locations that were unknown to them and a mixture of folks from throughtout my life sort of assembled for a story. Shaw's dream seemed to be all together, linear in story telling in a time frame that made sense,,,not like a real dream, not like my dreams. Can we believe what David is seeing in Shaw's Dream? How much can we believe in the same context as we see the scenes? Maybe the conversation with her Dad took place at some other point of her life. Maybe it was her Mom who was the religious person in her life. I
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zzplural

MemberOvomorphJan-16-2013 8:36 AM
For the benefit of el hologramador, here's a snap of David in Shaw's dream: [img]http://i46.tinypic.com/32zuclt.jpg[/img] Although it has to be said that what is seen is the neurovisor's [i]interpretation[/i] of Shaw's dream state. If the image that it is producing contains a representation of David, it's supposed to indicate that Shaw is subconsciously aware that he is invading her dream (we are not party to how, exactly). Since it's a construct, what we see is not necessarily what Shaw experiences, but I don't see any reason why the imagery should not be "believed". As for the narrative itself, dreams are odd things. Sometimes they make no sense, and at other times a long linear plot can unfold. I've experienced both.
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Indy John

MemberOvomorphJan-16-2013 9:46 AM
Interesting comments about the dream. Your screen shot is very good, something i did not see inmy viewings. Just a bit later, before the dream ends i saw a man in a jump suit that I assumed to be David You pix was new to me. I had not thought of what we see as a interpertation o fShaw's dream but in thinking aboutthat it makes more sense than a direct transmission to the visor. There was some talk of manipulation of dreams and i thought this might offer David an opportunity. I can't help but think of Shaw's reaction to David knowing about her Father's death through his vision of her dreams. She must have felt like he had raped her mind or soul. David even knowing the details of her Father's death might have been learned through her personnel files.. But if David lied and said he knew from her dreams well that was cutting her to the quick, a deliberate effort on David to subdue ant of Shaw's effectiveness. I guess the easiest answer, reading her dreams, is best.
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