Your thoughts on Prometheus

The only thing that got me with this film, other than the erratic & non-linear characters, was the seemingly random sequence of events (Black goo + human + human = Trilobite + Engineer = End) that resulted in the proto-Xeno, or Deacon, when the species was already clearly established & documented in murals. I for one would like to know whether this Deacon Alien is a new mutated form of the Xeno DNA code, or the initial stages that later evolve into what we know & love as the double-mouthed black death?

The deacon is an altogether different creature than the xeno. I think it's fairly safe to assume that the derelict on the original planet was populated well before the deacon appears in Prometheus, so it really isn't a proto-xeno at all.

i was raised on the Alien films and i LOVE Prometheus. one question i have is i wonder why Ridley did not connect Prometheus to Alien perfectly. for it to connect perfectly, the Engineer would have crawled back to his ship impregnated with the alien, climbed back up into his chair, then 'gave birth' to the alien and it would have been the exact scene were they found him in Alien. interesting why they did not do this. any thoughts?

[edit] sorry, i moved this post to here: http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/7023&page=7

Not only is this movie part 1 of 2 of an Alien Prequel. It is a tribute to "2001: A Space Odyssey", Blade Runner, and Asimov's Foundation Trilogy. ### In the movie "2001: A Space Odyssey" an alien artifact is discovered buried on the moon which was deliberately buried by some previous visitor. When sunlight first falls on the artifact (monolith) a radio beacon is sent to Jupiter to awaken the star gate. Mankind follows. In this movie, buried cave paintings are discovered which appear to be pointing to a star system Zeta II Reticuli (approximately 39 Light-Years from Earth) with either a planet or moon named LV-223. Since this matches other cave paintings, mankind follows. BTW, the planet they visit in "Aliens" is LV-426. Perhaps a neighboring star system (Zeta Reticuli is a double star system). ### Quote from Peter Weyland's 2023 TED Talk: "We are now 3 months into the year of our lord 2023. At this moment now we can create cybernetic individuals, who in just a few short years will become completely indistinguishable from us." Let's assume for a moment that Ridley Scott is merging the Blade Runner and Prometheus/Alien story lines. Blade Runner takes place in 2019 but we know that story ends with the murder of Eldon Tyrell (who may have been a replicant) by the replicant Roy Batty. Okay, so can we now assume that the Weyland corporation has acquired or merged with the Tyrell Corporation. There are even some hints than Meridith Vickers is also a Replicant. (she may be no more a daughter than David is a son) ### Several of the holographic projections (especially the one from Holloway's Cube) seem to be taken directly from Isaac Asimov's "Foundation Series" where Hari Seldon presses buttons on the top of a cube to display humanity's "future history" (Psycho-history: where statistics, history and sociology are combined in a computer model to predict humanity's future history)

I loved it. Knowing the director, I was prepared for a visually flawless spectacle. But the story is god too. I don't know why so many people didn't like the story, I guess they are used to simplistic stories that don't require much thought.

I'd like to see the Engineers homeworld. Like to know if Jesus' death was the catalyst for sparking them to come destroy us or was it because we had become nothing but war mongerers. Is Shaw the pilot of the derelict? I'm sure the next movie will give the answers. Cannot wait. I really enjoyed Prometheus, watched it twice and I def. missed alot the first go around. My theory is this .... the Engineers on LV-223 are a different race than the ones that populated Earth. They are different in appearance but have similar traits as the Sacrificial Engineer. Maybe they are the military arm of the Engineer race. I think there is another race that created the Engineers and we are nothing but guinea pigs for them and they were trying to find a way to destroy their parents (the God race) by creating the goo. We are nothing but a test bed for their experiments. They left that base on LV-223 for us to find because it would mean that we had advanced enough to travel in space and would possibly have the capability of finding their homeworld and destroying them (cause that is what we do). Also, I think the sequel will be called "Paradise" cause Shaw's father says for some it is called heaven for others it is called Paradise. If I repeated somebody else's post, sorry - i dont have time to skim through 100+ replies.

Longtime lurker, first time poster. I appreciate most everyone's intelligence and thoughtfulness on this site. First, I did enjoy the movie. Visually, it was stunning. Seeing the star room in 3-D was worth the price of admission alone. I went with a friend who isn't as well versed in the Alien universe as I am and he absolutely loved it (to the point of wanting to return the following week). Most likely, I'll catch it one more time in the theater. Now onto my nitpicking... I really, really disliked the music. I know some of you have enjoyed it, but I suspect it's due to listening outside of the context of the move. Personally, I kept thinking how out of sync it felt in certain scenes. I can't recall specifically which scenes, but it just did not jibe for me. Scott should have taken cues from the American version of The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo "soundtrack." It evoked fear and dread and general creepiness. Why is there an axe on the ship? As a tool, it's hardly efficient for breaking down walls or a door (futuristic plasma cutters anyone?) and as a weapon it's even more useless. How about a Taser for defense? If you've ever split a log it's a tedious process. Second, if Shaw is an archaeologist how does she have so much medical knowledge? During the dissection of the Space Jockey head she seems to know a ton about medical procedures (ditto during the "extraction" scene). Third, I'll assume this is explained in a subsequent movie, but what the hell does Prometheus have to do with anything beyond the ship? I know the Engineer at the beginning of the movie seeded our planet and created humans, but what technology did we receive? Last, I just don't get cryostasis or hypersleep for years and not having feeding and draining tubes. No matter how slowed down our bodies are, we need some form of nourishment. How do we receive and excrete? I suppose if David can read Shaw's dreams surely there must be some futuristic way to take a crap in deep sleep. Nitpicky? Sure.

I saw the movie 5th time. I think all the flaw or hole were made because the script not ready or rushed into production. it's like 'let jump now hope for the best later.' Most of the glitch are make no sense or confusing, like the lost geolog, Shaw can sprint after surgery, no explanation about biolog status after snake entering his body, how the impact from prometheus don't even dent the alien ship, etc. Did anyone notice after Shaw get out from life pod, she's not even wear a glove? They try to make things complicated but in the end they got confused themselves. Overall, I like the concept but disappointed with all the glitch.

Ok. In one sentence. Here goes: [i]"Prometheus, as a film, inverts the tone of its originator (ALIEN) from hyper-realism to its own muted surrealism, and in the process adds to its own acclaim a top-heavy, socially appropriately intellectualism while diminishing the simplicity or naked symbolism of the first, further I might suggest that the image of the Titian Saturn devouring his children be a more apt mythological icon, than the one who gave us fire."[/i]

My first viewing of the movie was yesterday(regular screen) and afterwards I was I just sat thre not knowing what to thnk because there seemed to be so many unanswered questions. Unsatisfied,,but really i guess wanting more answers. Out in the parking lot my son and I talked for several minutes about the movie(he like it it much more)..and I guess that sort of creates a problem. It not so much that it is a bad ..uninteresting movie...but in fact it may be too good.. too interesting,,and well made that I am not used to that kind of movie experience! So I'll let the movie experience sort of digest..and see what I feel in a few days..

Seeing the movie in a theater showed the grand scale/scope of the story and minimized any story/charactor flaws....almost overwheming.. On a smaller screen I suspect the plot holes would be more clear.and charactor flaws more noticable..

Will the next stop be the SJ's homeworld? I mean if this if the movie's planet is a Military outpost,,would there be several other stops/bases..before the homeland is reached?

I truly liked the movie, is it a masterpiece.....? In time it will be, look at all the stir thus far just on this site... Is it epic....?, well the 3-D was awesome that’s for sure, blew Avatar 3-D out of the water. The story was good, in fact the more I watch it, the better it gets.... going a 4th time this weekend w/my grandsons..... RS shows his vision if you know what to look for... The story of Prometheus is all over this movie, as well as a few Bible stories, or lets say a few religious undertones at least.... I read an interview where a critic asked RS about the engineers, as I understand it, the engineers are a pure race, free of sin, performs selfless acts for the better of their race, hence the first scene... did you think he drank that goo, sacrifice himself for the race that will be developed on that planet, or for his race.....? I’m still trying to figure that out, I don’t think that sacrifice was for the race building of that planet, I think it’s for their use. Stories of Greek Gods would sacrifice themselfs to better the race that worshiped them.... Point I’m trying to make is that the engineers are a pure race, creator of life, that one mural shows that, the mural of the deacon is the creator of death, which is pure and the engineers worshiped the xenomorph or deacon.... more later to be sure

VERY insightful and interesting talk about Prometheus here! http://media.fxguide.com/vfxshow/the_vfx_show-149-Prometheus.mp3

Prometheus Sucked ASS

Well that was a well-thought out and insightful post. Not.

I would like to say, Hail to Ridley! Once again he gave us a masterpiece. This movie will be fully appreciated in the future, just the same thing that happened with his Blade Runner. this is not just "an Aliens" movie, this is not just "another science fiction movie", this really is a very inspired piece of art. Scott at the most of his genious. I love the ships, the music, the screeplay. The screeplay is really a masterpiece. Many references which make sense. the movie really thought about the fans needs, the public need, the cinema lovers needs, the ufo and extraterrestrial fans needs in a very accurate approach. I almost say that the Alien is the less important thing but an excuse to talk about human beings David learning to Feel, almost in love with Elizabeth. David jealous of Holloway. David, the chosen one (hebrew king) is poetic, musically talented and wise. Many references. I have seen it 4 times. And im going for the fifth. Thanks for reading, i know that im not talking about specific arguments that you so very well noted, but i wanted to share it with you.

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My biggest confusion currently on mind with Prometheus is: what are the factors that lead the "ammo stock" to becoming the eggs like in the first movie? Or what hosts lead to the creature we are so very used to?