Alien Series for Hulu is official

>>>its  Cheaper for the Budget.

This is definitely true. But if we talk about TV shows, they are in any case cheaper than films. It doesn't matter - fantastic decorations or ordinary ones.

>>>I feel that Disney would want to Distance away from the Prequels and i think they would be REMOVED as Canon

So far, so what they say - it is not. They are not going to give up any properties. Plus, new comics about Alien have just been announced, but there are already plans for engineers.

As I said earlier - "It's just your imagination based on the sad fear." Perhaps you are subconsciously not sure about the prequels and recorded them in "lepers". But studios don't think so.

Yes, obviously there are a few things in there needing adjustment and soft-retcon about lore. But didn't Ridley Scott do the same with the Covenant in relation to Prometheus?

I got to agree with BigDave on this one. It's highly likely Disney will ignore the prequels. My case in point is Star Wars. If you go back to "The Journey to The Force Awakens" Disney's whole advertising campaign was about making sure it was more like the movies everyone loved meaning the original trilogy. We're five years past that movie and 5 Star Wars films since. Yes the prequels have most certainly seen a resurgence in popularity among the fanbase thanks to the extremely divided response to these sequels as well as the success of Clone Wars season 7. Not to mention The Mandalorian continuing to reveal significant ties. For the most part though they are STILL neglected and ignored by Disney with very little marketing material based around them. Disney is still in "base everything in and around the original trilogy" mode. I can go anywhere and see the same images of characters first introduced 40 years ago on everything. And if it isn't Han, Luke, Leia, Chewie, or Darth Vader on everything its Mandalorian characters. I don't see Anakin, Ewan McGregor's Obi Wan, Padme, General Grievous etc nearly as much. Even allThe new games steer clear of the era. They're only being acknowledged because people like Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau cared more about George's vision than Disney who only ever wanted money and played it safe as possible.

Star Wars remains an example of what to possibly expect from their handling of Alien. If Disney still cares very little about doing Star Wars prequel tie ins or even merchandise, then they definitely won't have any problems ignoring Ridley Scott's already unpopular prequels. 

"They are not going to give up any properties"

I think Certainly they would Explore things from the Prequels in Terms of other Medium, but i do think in regards to Theatrically then i SUSPECT they may choose to at LEAST go and Ignore the Prequels (at least AC maybe) by Ignore maybe they will just NOT go and Connect rather than to DISPEL them.

Ridley Scott seemed to Indicate its Unlikely that Disney would Continue with anything related to the Prequels, so for me its  CONCERN.... but i agree that this does-not mean that the Prequels will be Removed from Canon...  Only TIME will tell on that Front.

For me i think that in Part then YES the Prequels are Flawed but for me what i liked was they tried to OPEN UP the Franchise and take it out of the BOX it has been Stuck in Theatrically because i think there is ONLY so much you can do regarding Humans vs Xenomorphs, if things are NOT really changed a bit from what we have already seen..

"But didn't Ridley Scott do the same with the Covenant in relation to Prometheus?"

Indeed thats kind of what i said earlier well it was what i mean, in that EACH time we get a New Movie we get Changes and each Director/Writer would put their own SPIN on it and maybe NOT consider how it Effects the other Movies.

I think some things are NOT so much a Conflict or Contradiction and so with Prometheus the MAIN thing that is Inconsistent would be the Aesthetic and Scale of the Engineers/Ships.  Compared to the Space Jockey and Derelict.

I think that Alien Covenant was more Guilty of Treading on  the Toes of ALIEN if you would by Virtue that IF the intended route was that without the Experiments that David had Conducted on Planet 4 then there would be NOTHING on LV-426.  Which i think Conflicts with ALIEN by Virtue of that the Derelict etc does-not look like its been Sitting on LV-426 for like Less than 10-20 Years.

So on BOTH of those accounts it seemed that RS was NOT to Concerned with HOW they would NOT seem to FIT with what we saw in ALIEN.

To Continue....

In Context to the TV Show the Concern i have with Conflicting with the Franchise is that i GOT the Impression that in 2122 the Company did-not have much Information on the Xenomorph, it Certainly did-not seem like it was something that they was Aware of for like 10+ Years prior to ALIEN.

And so for me its a case of WHEN are they going to SET the TV Show, and WHERE do they Encounter the Xenomorph and in WHAT level of Exposure?

Because it seemed with ALIEN the Company/Mankind was NOT really aware of the Xenomorph, well what Contact and Information they had it appeared would have been Scarce and Recent. (like up to 10 Years) with the Prequels then this Changes somewhat.... to like about 20 Years

I can However Understand the Setting if this is the Case, a Predator Movie like Predator 2 and The Predator is Cheaper to make set in the Current Time Period than say in a FUTURISTIC EARTH say in 2100-2200.

This is WHY say AVPR was NOT going to be too Expensive Compared to say being set on a ALIEN WORLD, or in Space etc.

Well i am HOPEFUL the TV Show would NOT be as AWFUL as AVPR was lol

so the BIG QUESTIONS have to be the Following.

1) When is the TV Show Set? 2030-290?

2) How and WHERE do they Encounter the Xenomorph?

3) What would be the AFTERMATH?, surely Years after we MUST see a Loss of the Specimen and a Cover Up?

@ninXeno426

some Good Points... i do think the TV shows with Star Wars do HELP to Expand the Franchise, but we need to remember that ALIEN is more Limited.  With Star Wars you have MANY WORLDS and Races and a Long Time Line to explore.

With ALIEN of we IGNORE the Prequels then we have like a 100 Year Window... up to 300 Leading to Alien R and we are LEFT with LV-426 and with that being BUST then it appears (Theatrically) that this leaves the Company with NOTHING... until the USM go and Clone Ripley.

so if your going to keep it to Earth/LV-426 then you may END UP with Incontinuity and Conflicts with the Franchise.   Which is WHY i think the Prequels had LET the Franchise out of the BOX that Theatrically it was STUCK IN.

There is more to Explore in the Franchise than Xenomorphs but it comes down to IF it would be Accepted as a ALIEN Franchise if we have NONE!

What i am Saying is the Mandalorian may NOT be about the Skywalkers... but in Context to ALIEN thats really like removing RIPLEY...  it may NOT be too Heavy on the FORCE etc.

But with ALIEN its a case of for some and the Casual Viewer then if you remove the ALIEN (Xenomorph) then you dont have a ALIEN Franchise.  To me the Prequels had OPENED UP that their is Potentially a LOT out there that is ALIEN! 

Again I agree. I'm more interested in exploring Alien mythology than I am yet another story about Weyland Yutani trying and ultimately failing to obtain the xenomorph. Just depends on what Disney thinks is more viable.

I think exploring the Mythology is Interesting and EVENTUALLY its where you may have to go... even if we have a REBOOT on our Hands.

The Prequels had began to do this, but not so much Regarding our Xenomorph... what  kind of Mythology is there about this Beast... or is it merely a Engineered Weapon/Bi-Product from something GREATER?

I think eventually you would have to introduce the Space Jockey/Engineer as far as MORE about them but again this is TRICKY to do, Certainly a WAR OF THE WORLDS if its to be around Earth and NOT to Conflict with the Franchise.  I think the Prequels had OPENED the Door.

To me a Concern i have with the TV Show is...  "ok guys we gonna go and make a ALIEN TV Show, but we may be on a Budget"

No Problem... "If we make it on Earth and in the Not too Distant Future we would NOT need to Spend as much on Effects etc"

Ok...and HOW do we introduce the Xenomorph "if we have a Set Up First and Slowly introduce it after a Few Episodes and keep it to the Dark like ALIEN, then the last Few Closing Episodes we can UNLEASH more of them and we USE our Budget Saved for those Action and Alien scenes"

My concern is the TIME-LINE but i Understand that a Earth Circa say 2030-2040 would be FAR Cheaper than a Futuristic Earth say in 2150-2200

But then maybe the Discovery would be like AVP (swap Temple for Buried ALIEN Outpost or ALIEN Sunken Ship) minus the Predators... and then when the Xenomorphs Break Out of Containment/Storage then will it be like AVPR without the Predators?

You are not worried about the timeline between Prometheus/Covenant and Alien. But you're worried about the TV show timeline. Why?

Trying to calculate budget and time is a bit absurd, and if you are not involved in the project, then you are just doing overthinking. As I said earlier, an experienced writer can easily put things together and explain.

I also don’t know what kind of conflict you are talking about?

The things that gave us the prequels are not complete and, frankly, look liquid - all the knowledge of Prometheus/Covenant can be interpreted as you like without conflicts with other films, works.

Finally, good news in 2020.

I hope we all Stay Alive to watch this TV show. 

https://youtu.be/9DPCn1Rev-I

Perhaps, the new company on earth is the CON-AM company of the 1981 movie "Outland", starred by Sir Sean Connery.

https://youtu.be/kWD3FD8mpPE

 Right on the money Setavarde. I used Outland as an example last year. Check this out.

https://www.scified.com/topic/48402

I see it a bit like BlackAnt does. Put it out there on HULU and mix it up. Give us the xeno, Marines, engineers, etc. I basically said as much a year ago: streaming is the way to go. Let HULU throw it at the wall and see what sticks. If I don't like it, I will quit watching. Simple as that.

"You are not worried about the timeline between Prometheus/Covenant and Alien. But you're worried about the TV show timeline. Why?"

Good Point... i will agree that Prometheus and Covenant have NOT so much caused a Conflict but more so it has left a LOT of Loose Ends.. Certainly, especially in regards to WHY BOTHER with LV-426 and then NOT after the Nostromo Mission when you have LV-223 and Planet 4 and WHO KNOWS where else David and his Experiments would END UP.

So yes the Prequels do kind of Effect and Raise Questions regarding ALIEN.

The Concerns with the TV Show are NOT really so much that IF we get our Classic or Aliens Xenomorph then it would make it UNLIKELY that David was the Creator (we had discussed HOW this could work if the Pathogen in Time and Circumstances could REVERT back to Pure Xeno-Strain).

It was MAINLY in how having Xenomorphs on Earth before we have ALIEN is something that would Step on the Toes a little in regards to it seemed that W-Y in say 2100-2120 had NOT known much about the Xenomorph that lead to Special Order 937 (But with AC that could lead to them knowing a BIT MORE) because it seemed they knew something in ALIEN but its NOT like they knew a LOT or had been able to Study the Organism... which is WHY they wanted it.

I find it Unnecessary to go for such a PLOT... however when you are looking at the Fall Out of Alien Covenant and the Current Pandemic then to go and Spend BIG on a Box Office Movie is a RISK.... and so a TV Show with maybe Budget Restrictions to PLAY IT SAFER

And so from a Financial POV then having a PLOT that is SET on Earth and some time before the ALIEN  Franchise does mean that you would NOT need as BIG a Budget for Futuristic Technology, Space Ships and Cities etc...  Also a Lack of Advanced Tech would mean a Conflict with the Xenomorph makes Mankind have a even Lesser Hand to Play... the Chips would be Stacked more against them... than if the Xenomorphs had been up against Military Might of Earth say in 2200.

so i can see WHY this makes sense for Disney, it also would maybe ATTRACT a New Audience to the Franchise.

"As I said earlier, an experienced writer can easily put things together and explain"

I have to agree if they have a Good Writer who Considers any Potential Conflict (We cant cant Xenomorphs and Engineers Rocking up in New York Circa 2040).  Then yes some Clever and well thought Writing could give us a WAY to have the Xenomorph and NOT cause a Conflict.

I have been thinking and have to NOT look at the Worse Case which could be AVPR like...  and so if we take the Independence Day Plot.... this reveals in Context to that Movie that the 1947 Roswell Incident and Area 51 are Connected to the ALIEN INVASION that comes in 1996.

But most people are NOT aware of this Alien Species until the Mass Invasion in 1996.  And so what i am getting at is that YES with Clever and Careful writing then they could have a PLOT where we had Encountered the Xenomorph before on a SMALL SCALE and that in the Aftermath, they Abandon what they was doing and COVER IT UP and Brush it Under the Carpet.

When you think about that then the FURTHER back from ALIEN that you go, then maybe the More Likely and Plausible that Evidence and Records of the EVENT would become LOST.... (well Buried) so to speak.

And so i have to think Positive and with the Right Writer then YES it could work..... if we have some TEAM that Discovers something, and its Brought to a like Area 51 type Secret Base, maybe FAR FAR from Civilization or a Remote Area..... then $£%£$ HITS THE FAN!

But in the END its Contained and maybe as Janek said... they NUKE the Outpost/Area and then COVER IT UP.  That would work ;) 

And Last Night i even had a IDEA to HOW they could do it and Change things a Little than Generic Egg. (but something VERY similar to our Xenomorph will Appear/Feature).

Regarding BUDGET and Speculation then YES we cant be sure as ONLY those working on the Project would know, i HOWEVER cant see it being Massive.... so NO like The Mandalorian and i DOUBT it would be like Star Trek Discovery (maybe a Few Episodes could hit the $8M mark).

But thats merely Speculation... i dont know what the Budget will be, but REGARDLESS.... i think that having a Earth in say 2030-2050 Plot means LESS SPEND on Certain things which means MORE MONEY for the Actual Monsters/Aliens and odd ALIEN Ship/Outpost Scenes ;)

So i think i Need to have some Faith... and if its a Flop, well i guess i can just Pretend it was a Alternative Universe lol  But HOPEFULLY it will do well, even IF the Plot is NOT something that would be for me....  they DONT and should NOT go make a TV Show to Please the Few ;)

" Give us the xeno, Marines, engineers, etc. I basically said as much a year ago: streaming is the way to go"

I am Disappointed in you DK ;)

But then such Popcorn ;) could work if we had it set say 50 Years after ALIENS... but say prior to 2100 then Gosh No! lol 

There is a WAY for a WAR OF THE WORLDS... but i dont think most the Writers they had can THINK OUTSIDE the Box!    Prometheus had opened the Door to the Galaxy showing we are NOT alone... and WHO is to say that the Earth is the ONLY Place where Mankind Live in Context to say RIGHT NOW in Context to the Franchise that is... But if we gonna go all Independence Day then unless we are to REMOVE say Alien Resurrection as Canon.... then such a Plot would be BEST to be surely after 2200 and ideally after 2400 ;)  The Earth is Recovering from Disaster... its a MESS....... USM most likely wanted the Xenomorph to USE as a Weapon to Turn the Tide/Gain Control for a Specific Faction...

And just when the Earth is in Ruin in many Places... then the ENGINEERS go and ROCK UP...   this route i would take.

I will submit later HOW i would go about the TV Show and maybe i am NOT that FAR OFF what we could get... as i be Busy in a bit.... but here are a Few Episode Names.. in Random Order.

Leviathan, Daedalus Down, Dreadnaught, The Cecaelias, Awakening....  thats 5 of the First 6 but in a Random Order ;)

HULU would do well by basically making Alien universe shorts like IGN did to start with. See what the viewer reception is like before investing and diving into something almost no one will like.

ok guys i had thought about HOW you could do a ALIEN Series in the NOT to Distant Time-Line...  here is the Rough Synopsis and Name for the First 6 Episodes.... after the 5th is where it begins to become something more Familiar with our Beast from ALIEN.

The Broad Synopsis is in 2047 after the Loss of Project Daedalus a Search and Rescue Team go looking in the Bermuda Triangle for the Wreckage of the USARC Daedalus but what they Discover is Truly out of this WORLD.  The Team Accidentally Awaken a Starbeast from its Slumber.

EP01: Daedalus Down

In 2047 the Experimental USARC Daedalus is due to make its Return Trip from the SUN, a Ship that OPENS UP the Possibility of Interstellar Travel to become a Reality.  On re-entry to Earth the Ship suffers a Malfunction and heads towards the Bermuda Triangle where it Disappears.

The United States Astronomical Research Corporation goes to dispatch a Salvage Team to go to where the Last Signal from the Daedalus in the Hope of recovering the Valuable Ship and its Data.

EP02: Leviathan

A Deep Sea Salvage Team are sent to the Last known Coordinates of the Downed Interstellar USARC Daedalus.  Where they Fail to locate where the Starship could have Landed, but they Detect something else as they close in on what their Sensors Detect as a Large Object, it becomes Apparent they have Discovered something HUGE that is Partially Buried at the Bottom of the Sea.

EP03: Awakening

After Surveying the Wreckage and having trouble contacting HQ the Salvage Teams Leader gives the Order to go and Investigate. A Team of Three go down in a DSSRV (Deep Sea Salvage and Reconnaissance Vehicle).  As they Probe the ALIEN looking Wreckage (has a Familiar Aesthetic to us) they Discover what looks like a Entrance and they make there way inside.

Inside they are in awe at what they see, a Construction that is Nothing like what they have seen before, Bonelike Architecture/Construction that looks somewhat Mechanical and somewhat Organic.  One of the Team wants to Head Back as they dont know what they are Dealing with but the 2nd in Command says they have a Job to do and they Continue to Explore.

EP03: Awakening

The USARC manage to Contact the Salvage Ship Charon about the Progress of the Search but the Ships Captain/Team Leader decides to say they have yet to Find anything and LIE about the Discovery of the Buried Wreckage they Found so they can keep it to themselves for a while and Claim Salvage Rights.

Meanwhile the Team that went down to Explore the Sunken Leviathan continue their Exploration, until they seem to Activate some Door that OPENS... after they Notice some Hieroglyphs and Cuneiform and go close for a Study.  They then go down a Passage where the Ship has been Sealed from Water, but it soon Starts to Fill.

They detect the Inside of the Ship has Oxygen Levels, but then as they go to Explore they detect some Faint CO2 and Notice a Strange Green Mist that  has a Illuminated Glow.

One of the Team Proceeds ahead while the others Wait back in Caution, saying that maybe they should get out, as the Water is coming in Fast. The Team Member who had gone to Investigate the Mist, takes a look at the Section Covered in the Mist, and Notices something... strange like Cocoons, he says that he has seen something that look like Strange Fruit, like a Coconut, then he slips on a Surface that has became WET with the Water and Falls into the Mist.

Upon Close Inspection these are NOT like Coconuts they are Strange Cocoon like Pods, a Brownish Green.  As the Team Member gets up he places his Hand and Touches one and then Notices his Hands kind of Sink into its Flesh and leaves a Imprint.   As he Calls out to the others to come and take a Look, he takes his Eye Off the Prize and then all of a Sudden it OPENS and some kind of Cephalopod looking Organism  it Latches onto his Face Plate and he Struggles with the Creature, has he Climbs out of the Pit, he Falls to the Floor.    The other Team Rush to him and Discover the Organism has somehow managed to make a Hole in his Helmets Visor.

The remaining Team Members Discus/Argue over what to do, the One Member says look we Need his Helmet in Tact as it has Recordings of our Search, this Place is Filling with Water Fast and could make a 2nd Reconnaissance more Difficult.  They Notice that his LIFE SIGNS are Fine and see the Cephalopod  looking Creature Pulsating/Breathing.

What have they AWAKENED?

The Team Manage to get the Victim back to the DSSRV and Head to the Surface.

Well Guys thats the Rough Synopsis for the First Three Episodes its just a Basic Pitch so Needs Fleshing Out with Character Names etc... the Idea is a Slow Build Up we can gain some Background on Characters and Parties at Play.

I have the Rough Pitch for the First 6 Episodes its the 7th when the USARC are involved and then they go and take a Specimen to a Secret Base, the Survivors of the Salvage Ship Charon refuse to give Details of where they had their Encounter.... but another Salvage Team in Future will Discover the Wreckage of the Charon

The Next 3 Episodes are... (and i will explain them latter).

EP04 The Cecaelias
EP05 Hystera
EP06 Dreadnaught

However the Dreadnaught may be Moved a Few Latter like 7th or 8th...  Idea is for 10-12 Episodes 

Regarding the Beast.... well it makes its Appearance in EP4 and maybe this would have to be a 2 Part or the 2nd Part given a Different Name as the Beast Ravages the Salvage Ship before it is Sunk...  This Beast is NOT the same as the Xenomorph... but YES it will try and Egg Morph its Victims.

The Egg Morphs i am thinking that ONE maybe Taken to a USARC Research Ship the Beast from this would be a LITTLE different to the Beast from the Spores/Pods.

But there would also be another Beast that is Gestating in a Survivor of the Charon Salvage Ship.. something thats more like our Xenomorph.

With EP03 Awakening i am Considering that its a Tremor that causes the Team Member to Fall into the Pit of Pods.  This can be USED as a  Plot Device to have the Leviathan/Dreadnaught sink into a Chasm.

Which could make me Rename EP06 Dreadnaught to something else as it is the Conclusion that the Sunken ALIEN Ship carries a Dreaded Cargo.. but it may stay... but i think that the Exploration again of the Dreadnaught  is maybe there to Explore in a Season Two ;)

"Alien universe shorts like IGN"

Ideally this is what i would have DONE.. take Elements of the BEST of them, and Expand to make a 6-10 Episode Story set say between 2150-2200

EDIT

Looking at some Concepts from the Prequels and some Work also done by Neville Page i could imagine a Amalgamation that could Produce something like this for The Cecaelias

PS i apologize if this is Going Off Topic... i may take these Ideas to a New Topic if thats Easier.

“By blending both the timeless horror of the first Alien film with the non-stop action of the second, it’s going to be a scary thrill ride that will blow people back in their seats.”

I'm afraid that it will be like when Scott said that Alien Covenant would scare the crap out of people, which was an exaggeration. They need a good story and characters to get that right and focus on the human experience. A good point seems to be that they will not focus on some android-garbage.

Alien-things usually get the surroundings right, so I'm not worried about that. AVPR is an exception because it's crap. Even the surroundings in AR is alright but that can't save the movie from being a parody.

Keep the monsters in the dark, you know that it's there but you don't know where. It's almost like when you're a kid and go down in the basement, you're afraid of things but you can't see where they are so you make things up in your head.

Will it be the best since Alien 3? Maybe but I doubt it, at least I hope that it will be better that we have seen coming after 1992. Don't get your hopes too high is my point or else you'll likely be disappointed.

NinXeno426:

You can look at old comics as one of the things to find inspiration from but you can look around for other things also. People can look up to political figures to find inspiration from and the same goes for material to movies. Be open to different ideas, combine them and make your own version but don't make a copy of something that is old.

BD:

I can do fine without Xenos as long as the story and the characters are well done. The Xenos and military seems like a copy of Aliens even though it hasn't got to be the case. Hopefully it won't be some nostalgia just to play safe (like they know that Aliens did great so they'll try to repeat it, that would be lazy). You could have Aliens and guns but take it into some other direction, just because movies have things in common doesn’t mean that they are the same.

Having it on earth reminds me of the Eric Red story, it didn't seem too interesting and we also got AVPR. By having it on some other planet the environment is alien as in unknown, I think that you'll need that.

“25-75 Years before ALIEN then thats going to Contradict the First Movie and the Prequels”

Not if it's made like a what-if kind of thing. It could be an alternate time-line, that could work. Making it contradict the first movie would be bad, not as concerned about the prequels though because they are not very good but they have their fans. About your list I would go with 1 or two. Retcon things, the only thing that I am worried that they would retcon is the first three movies because I’m not sure how any of them would be improved. Stay away from Alien 1-3.

“(If it leads to the Company had Created the Xenomorph).”

Oh hell no! Having David being responsible for it is bad enough but having it being a direct result by humans would be even worse. I want the beginning of it to not be a result of human activity, directly or indirectly which is why the Engineers making it is a good idea.

The prequels have some good things like the world-building, new monsters, the black goo, and the Engineers. What they didn't suceed with was the characters in general and who was responsible for the Xeno.

“when you look at the WHOLE FRANCHISE you can see we are looking at Corporate Greed, Personal Gain, Indications of Corporate Rivalry, CREATION and the Hubris of doing this... Experimenting to Create/Engineer something and the Hubris/Hazard of such!”

This, I would like to see new life-forms, new worlds, maybe new companies, new characters that are well-written and well-executed. You can have more than Ripley and Xenos is my point.

You can have about genetic stuff, the marines and warfare, corporations, and so on. Not sure if it would be about androids a lot, Covenant made me lose interest in that but you can have it as a small part of the story.

What if science is used for bad purposes, this is what the goo can be seen as partially, but you can make other things by using the same theme. You need more than interesting themes for it to work, you need a story and the characters. Ideas are not enough, which the prequels show - interesting ideas, poor result.

I won't bother with what kind of world that David would create, I'm done with him being the main-point. Throw it away and make something new with characters that I can support. You can have interesting ideas but the story and characters got to work. Prometheus and Covenant had interesting ideas and the stories were not totally wrong but the focus and the human characters were mostly wrong (they are mixed bags) and that's why we have what we have.

A TV-series could be a good thing but once again story and characters. Even the Xenos isn't what it should be about. The Xenos should be kept to just some scenes if you ask me.

“Have they got a Movie in the Works?”

With the pandemic going on? Who knows? I could do good with fewer effects if they get the story and characters right. They have many effects in the Transformer-movies and they are what they are.

I wouldn't mind if they would go beyond the Xenos but what I want and what most people into the franchise want might be different things maybe.

Corporate fuckery is a part of the franchise so that could be brought up at least in part. We don't have to stick with WY, we can have something new but not anything that exists in real life but something like a symbol for what's real.

Thoughts_Dreams: Fair enough. My issue with the comics is many people I talk to want a straight adaptation with Hicks Newt and Ripley as they were in those comics. Goes without saying they're all Cameron fan boys that hate 3. Aliens is my personal fave but I also love 3 and accept it's decisions. As for comics I wouldn't a story in the vein of Aliens Defiance. It had a great story, characters, and good balance of action and horror. Its right up there with Isolation for being one of the better Alien stories I encountered in the past decade.

@Thoughts_Dreams

Again you touch upon Good Points....

Personally i think the Biggest Problem with the Franchise is also what was its Biggest Draw....   The General/Casual Viewers will ASSOCIATE the ALIEN Franchise with the Xenomorph/Queen, Ripley and then Colonial Marines (also Weyland-Yutani are) i am NOT sure many would paid Attention to the Derelict/Space Jockey.  The same goes with a Proportion of the Fanbase.

So when you think ALIEN then the thing that Pops into your Mind would be Eggs, Face Huggers, Chest Busters and Xenomorphs and then our Heroine Ripley.

When you are at a Cross-Roads on what to do Next (which we reached before the Prequels and was given AVP instead of a Alien V) then its WHERE do you go NEXT... and you can REMOVE say Ripley... even dont be Tempted to give us Ripleys Grandfather, Father etc etc... Need NO Connection at all.

But you do get some who NEED/WANT to see little Connections, so say if you got a movie set after ALIENS where you had Hicks Brother or Son in Search of WHAT had Happened to their Family Member then that is something that SOME would like to see as it gives a Connection to the Beloved Character and a Plot for WHY they would be out looking....  and ALIEN Isolation had Pulled this same kind of PLOT.

But i dont think you NEED to Connect to Previous Characters, likewise you dont have to have Weyland-Yutani (as Alien R never did).

But the ONE thing that is SYNONYMOUS with the Franchise is the ALIEN the Xenomorph.... ALIEN was Alien because it had the ALIEN (Xenomorph), ALIENS was Aliens because it had more than ONE (Xenomorph) and ALIEN 3 because it had Three (Joke)..... 

But my point being that a ALIEN: Prefix is Expected to have the Xenomorph.....  EVERY MOVIE that has the Prefix has the Xenomorph in some Shape/Form....  The Exception was PROMETHEUS and they Dropped the ALIEN: Prefix because they was attempting to make a Connected Movie that is SET in the same Universe but it would NOT go and Contain the ALIEN (Xenomorph) or connect to ALIEN (Movie).

And so the ALIEN Brand Name becomes a Double Edged Sword because IF you are going to make a TV Show that would NOT be Connected to the Xenomorph...  Then you loose some Brand Recognition... go and ask 1000 Random People have you heard of Prometheus and even show them the DVD Cover and your going to get a LOT who would NOT be Familiar with it, or that its within the ALIEN Universe.   And so the ALIEN Prefix would HELP to get that Recognition/Marketing but along with having the Prefix then the Expectation that it should have the ALIEN would be expected by some... if NOT then you would have the Casual Viewer be like "HOW was that a ALIEN TV Show" and some Fans be like "Where the Feck was the ALIEN"

Even if you called it Weyland Yutani: Building Better Worlds then NOT everyone will know how its Connected and WHEN its pointed out they may be like oh "so where is the ALIEN"

A Colonial Marines TV Show may be Recognized more, but again it may Carry the Expectation of "where did the ALIEN go"

so the Franchise is Shackled with the ALIEN Name its what makes it Stand Out as its a recognized Brand but then it will Carry the Expectation of having the Xenomorph for MOST of the People. (by that inc Casual Viewers).

The Prequels with Prometheus had OPENED UP the Franchise, because we could look at ALIEN as being something that was TRULY ALIEN.. so those EGGS are ALIEN but then so was that SHIP, the PILOT.... and so when Expand on them, even with the Engineers then they are ALIEN and the Plot Opens it up to MANY Worlds, and MANY Species/Creatures and as they are NOT from Earth then they are ALIEN.... the Galaxy is ALIEN.

One Downfall of Prometheus was that the Creatures/Monsters it did-show maybe did-not have enough of a Connection to the Xenomorph and we NEVER really had a Relatable Monster given enough Screen Time... something which Alien: Engineers had much more of..

So when you are going to do a ALIEN Movie/TV Show and Especially with the Prefix then you would be Expected to have something they can RELATE to either those Eggs/Xenomorph or the Space Jockey/Engineers.  But that does-not mean a Carbon Copy just something Familiar.

Anyway i will Copy my Pitch to a New Topic and make some Changes.... my Idea would have also tried to UPLIFT the Xenomorph, especially with the Episode: Incubus

So that it has its Own Topic to NOT go and Distract from the Official News/Story of the ALIEN TV SHOW.