Egg Morph Scene - Not What It Seems

My Two Cents its this...

The Xenomorphs do secret a resin or some other form of matter in order to Produce a Hive, well the Material that Builds them and Cocoons Hosts and this stuff is clearly seen in the Alien Egg Morph Scene.

This Material they use for not only sticking Hosts to, but it must also have some effect on the Xenomorph Hive, i will assume the Material has certain pheromones etc related to it.

I think maybe when a Hive is set up and/or a bunch of Eggs, these both contain something in their Genetic Makeup that gives off some kind of signal that determines what kind of Xenomorph Gestates.   

Being away from a Hive/Eggs the Organism Gestating will not detect these signals from other Eggs and Hive... and maybe they will gestate into a Drone that has a purpose to start to create a Hive, well create the Material a Hive is made from, and then capture Hosts.... One Host in some way is used for Egg creation be it Morphed or its Genetic Material has to be consumed by what is the starting point for the Eggs.

This Process leads to a Queen who then needs more Hosts to set up more Drones, that then build a Hive/Nest and once the Hive Nest is set up it sets off Pheromones or other Signals with the Queen also giving off some... that then will determine the Chest Busters to become Warriors instead.

Thats how i interpret the whole Life Cycle, and Hive Creation which includes the Egg Morph and Drone/Warrior.

It looks like there was a cocoon scene planned in Covenant at one point. This is concept art MPC came up with for the movie.

The xeno was going to be shown cocooning someone.

Interesting, Kethol! Could have been pretty gross to see. Good lord. But this one of several concepts in this franchise that are ALWAYS introduced and reintroduced, yet still passed over for the final version. 

wow! That's nasty Kethol lol.. and slightly disturbing

The crotch blast is definitely disturbing. They also looked at a puke blast and spidey blast :)

Nasty.

whether egg morphing is or isn't a thing is irrelevant. it was in the original star beast and alien scripts and was shot, only left out due to the pace of the movie. true that the queen was shown on screen prior to the directors cut of alien being released but that isn't an issue, theres no reason both cant exist in the alien universe. plus morphing is a real life natural process that exists today on our own planet so not that far fetched

Here we are few years later now! Hopefully I am making myself clear here:

In the film, it would be seen as a sort of metamorphosis as it looks as if the human victims are somehow transforming.  Or one could just go back to the original idea in the script of the cocoon transforming into a spore, which makes the spore almost like a chrysalis.

It wasn't as if Ridley would be that specific about what was going on but the alien beast is supposed to be an alien life form rather than just exactly a humanoid oversized insect, He went with the idea of showing human bodies being eaten away alive by the cocoon material putting Dallas in a state of agony, as the spore shell grew around the humans' remains and so this would result in the alien young devoured the humans from within their shells. I don't know what exactly what these alien young were and how they were created. We do see maggots crawling over Brett's body and sludge moving over his head, so something of that might as well have been the alien young.

Then online people created this 'Eggmorphing' term, perhaps it goes back as far as 2007 online, (I probably get it confused with 'EggMcMuffin')  it wasn't used in the old Usenet newsgroup and it seemed to have more to do with people who were who were Aliens fans saying how ridiculous the idea was, basing their idea on what James Cameron erroneously thought in an interview about the "human to egg" stage was all about the alien beast having "biological properties take up residence in a human being and change it" rather than slowly consume it. I suppose that no one was really that bothered about what Ridley was thinking anyway but I did what I could to collect the information about Ridley's idea together hoping that others might generally develop a clue.

See: Alien: Human To Spore

See: Aliens: Replacing the human to spore stage with the alien queen

I wrote a piece back in 2003 - I think for Absolute AvP - that used the term 'egg morphing'.  And I think it'd been around for a little while at that point.  The Anchorpoint Essays might have used the term prior to that as well.

I think the Egg Morph could be something that could have been Explored in Future... i wonder HAD we seen Ridley Scott be able to Continue with the Franchise would he have INTRODUCED the Egg Morph?

If the Egg Morph gets explored more then they could CHANGE its Purpose....

The Xenomorph would be Pretty Flawed if in ALIEN what we saw was going to become TWO EGGS... but i GUESS this adds a Weakness to the Organism.. and if we go back to Starbeast then its THIS Need for Hosts that had become a Downfall for their Species if they Egg Morph all Life then they would RUN OUT of any Hosts.

But its always NICE to give a Monster a Flaw/Weakness.

I had always looked at the Scene as Creating a Egg Morph and then using Dallas as a Host... but the FLAW i have with this would be WHY does the Xenomorph not do the same with Parker and Lambert as then it would have TWO MORE of its kind to Join it...

I recall that RS had said that he felt the Xenomorph in the Narcissus was trying to HIDE away to DIE as it had Performed its Task (Egg Morph) to me this would make SENSE if the Egg Morph would lead to a ROYAL FACE HUGGER... so that Dallas would have Gestated a Queen.

I guess the Egg Morph could be Explored in Future and changed somewhat.... for me as a Evolutionary Stand Point.. it would make more Sense if the Egg Morph would lead to a Metamorphosis into another Xenomorph or similar and thus REMOVE the Face Hugger from this LINK in the Chain of Procreation... but you still have someway to Obtain a Queen that can LAY more Eggs.

I always thought the eggs in the derelict were the Eggmorphed space jockeys, and those from the nostromo would have resulted in a different creature, maybe a slightly different facehugger but not a queen. I like aliens but don’t really care for the queen concept itself.  I would love to see Ridley make a sequel similar to Halloween 2018 that discounts the sequels and see his vision for Alien 2.

Indeed the RESULT we have is from a Changing of Concept/Idea from the Inception by Dan O'Bannon to the Changes that gave us ALIEN.

By Virtue of the Theatrical Cut having NO EGG MORPH it allowed for James Cameron to think OK we have Eggs, and WELL we see that Eggs are LAID and so the Queen Concept was BORN.

The Original Concept being more ALIEN and more Parasitical

Before we had ALIENS we had those Eggs as something Ambiguous but Ridley Scott saw them as some kind of Bio-Weapon that the Space Jockey was using.

But it was NEVER really explained as to HOW/WHERE/WHEN the Space Jockey had got those Eggs... so all we could Speculate was...

1) They are a Pre-Existing Organism the Space Jockey would take to USE as a Weapon.

2) There was a Pre-Existing Organism the Space Jockey would take to Experiment/Evolve into what became those Eggs.

3) The Space Jockey had Created those Eggs from basically Scratch.

Ridley Scott had a FEW ideas of where he was going to take us back before ALIENS... he had proposed that the Xenomorph could become something Intelligent and KILL all the Crew of the Nostromo and then Mimic the Voice of Ripley to LURE in a Rescue Team.  But this Change/Ending was NOT what FOX and Walter/Hill wanted.

He had wanted to do a Prequel that would look at the Connection of the Space Jockey to the Xenomorph and saw those Eggs being he Remnants of a Once Alien Civilization,( Warlike and Self-Destructive) and he would Explain as to WHO they was and WHY the Space Jockey had them.

Ridley Scott had also wanted to go back to ALIEN after ALIENS but it seemed that he was more interested in Evolving/Exploring the Space Jockey....

James Cameron would have wanted to go to a Xenmomorph Hive World and Evolve on his HIVE Concept more.

with the Movies that followed and the AVP Franchise then it had became kind of a Accepted Fact that the Xenomorph Eggs are LAID by a Queen and so the Space Jockey would have either been a Species who had either.

a) Came Across the Xenomorph and saw their USE as a Weapon.

b) Came Across the Xenomorph and had intended to STUDY them and maybe Experiment with them.  (This seems the Story behind the Giant Race Discovered in STARBEAST).

But as it stood it was LEFT open to Interpretation by the Fans, the Prequels came along and attempted to STEER AWAY from the Idea/Origins but then also Changed Plan to give us a Different Origin Story.

So we DONT know what the Plans would have been to Explain those Eggs on the Derelict... i am NOT 100% that Ridley Scott would have based his NEXT TWO Movies around the Queen from ALIENS... and i would Suspect that the Egg Morph may have been USED to some extent had he been able to Continue.

Steering away from Ridley Scott one of the Concepts by Blomkamp for his ALIEN 5 Project did seem to look like maybe HE would also have Explored the Egg Morph but if thats the Case and to what Context we just dont know.

I will add that WHILE you Ponder are those Eggs the remains of Egg-Morphed Engineers i think it seems UNLIKELY as far as where they were going.

HOWEVER.... if we go back to Starbeast, then we look at the EGG MORPH scene that was Removed and then the UNUSED Mural by HR Giger.

Then this would IMPLY the Engineers/Space Jockey would Self Sacrifice themselves to PROCREATE the Starbeast/Xenomorph and so if we go by the Procreation Route that was CUT... then INDEED we could Speculate that the Engineers/Space Jockey may have Self Sacrificed some of their own to be EGG MORPHED.

The ELEMENT of them doing so would leave us to ASK as to WHY?

HOWEVER... if Ridley Scott had Envisioned the Xenomorph as something that could become more INTELLIGENT and that at some POINT had a Civilization.

Then this could THROW UP these Two Scenarios.

1) The Xenomorph/Starbeast would USE the Engineers to Procreate as they saw them as the Perfect Host.  The Engineers must have something that makes them Accept this Fate (Majority of them Gain something for doing this) or they are Enslaved against their Will.  Maybe some Engineers eventually Rebelled against this... or some Calamity Reduced the Starbeast Numbers so only a Few Remained and the Engineers took advantage or waited for their En-slavers/Masters to DIE OUT and then they looked to Exploit their Knowledge/Technology and Genetics.

2) The Engineers came across the Starbeast who have maybe been Reduced to Low Numbers or Extinct and the Engineers saw Potential in their Genetics (especially if this is a KEY to some kind of Immortality such as Genetic Memory/Soul Transfer) then the Engineers would have Good reason to Self Sacrifice to allow them to gain better Understanding of the Starbeast/Xenomorph and HOW to USE its Traits/Genetics to the Engineers Advantage/Salvation.

But ALAS we had Alien Covenant which kind of puts the above to BED.... However this does-not mean the above could apply to another Species who Pre-Date the Xenomorph who are the STARBEAST and who indeed use the EGG MORPH to Procreate/Resurrect themselves.

Regarding any Plans by Ridley Scott.... he had mentioned about the Xenomorph had started to Run it Course and you had to Evolve It and Explore other FORMS of Procreation and so i do BELIEVE that Ridley Scott would have shown us the Egg Morph at some point.