Ridley Scott Does not think god created us

joylitt

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Ridley Scott Does not think god created us

I have seen many interviews with Ridley Scott on "Alien Covenant". But I was surprised to find this one where he is asked point blank a couple of very interesting questions to which he gives very interesting answers. In a way he seems to dodge one of them in particular (when the interviewer asks him if it was a coincidence that the trailer was released on Christmas Day, referring the Jesus theory from Prometheus). However, in his reply he is very clear about what he thinks of man's origins: "Prometheus raised the question eventually of how we were made. Was it God? I don't think so. Was it random? No, I think it was planned"

I think if we consider that Scott believes that man is not God's creation is a good starting point to see the events in "Alien Covenant" from a different angle. Most importantly, it makes everything look much more transgressive and provocative. Is Ridley writing his own Gospel where Jesus is an Engineer, David is some kind of unforgiving God and the xenomorphs the plagues he punishes humanity with?

This is a link to the interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ-dG4o6f68&t=52s

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May 16, 2017

IRaptus- It is tough to argue against Dawkins. I would throw Christopher Hicthens in the mix too.

Just a couple Hitchens tidbits:

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

Human decency is not derived from religion. It precedes it.

Something Real What if there is nothing special about us? Is it possible that we just perceive ourselves that way? If we are special, how is it decided what is not so special? I don't expect an answer since the question is rhetorical.

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May 17, 2017

Actually, its really easy to argue against Dawkins, Hitchens, Dennett and Harris. Not on their critiques of religion, but in short, they make very poor historians and philosophers. Its odd too since Dennett in the only trained philosopher in the group.

A good friend of mine is a pretty big fan of Hitchens and out of The New Atheists he has certainly entertained me and certainly was a sharp guy. I appreciated how he asked questions in earnest.

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May 17, 2017

Blackwinter-witch:

Thank you, you are too kind.

Dinner with Nietzsche? You are much braver than I! He is really fascinating but I am not sure I want to live in a society filled with or have the "ubermensch" ruling over us/me.

Yes, I assumed when you brought up materialism it was in the modern sense of the word.

Hope you feel better soon and see you on the forum :-)

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May 17, 2017

Bubba Zanetti Well in Alien Covenant David does not read any of Nietzsche's poems but he listens to Richard Wagner :-)

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May 17, 2017

joylitt- Its always a German...ALWAYS! :-)

Yeah, that is an interesting connection in itself. Pretty sure someone has posted up about Wagner and his operas that look at evil. Then you have Hitler's fascination with Wagner and tying his art into the Third Reich.

More of those nice connections Scott gives us to nerd over.