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Unknown, but it is obvious he is unhappy when no one cares what he has to say and interrupt him.

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Yeah, I'll go with the possibility he kills Branson. We know Branson is VERY ill, so he could kill him and make it seem as though he died from complications of whatever illness was affecting Branson.

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I wonder also if it's just 'jealousy' and all discussed above, or if he's also after Branson's wife? Professional/career jealousy and related elements often coincide with a personal interest of a romantic/sexual attraction in the mix also.

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I think those are possible except I wonder about him being an android since he was face hugged. Of course, that might be the birth of a xeno if he is.

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Interesting thoughts! 

 

Also, Crudrup was at his best in "Almost Famous", one of my favorite all time movies.

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Facehuggers!

YW! :)

I don't think a facehugger could work with an android, just a gut-feeling, but I don't think R. Scott would go that direction.

Oram's wife could well be cheating on him, OR possibly stayed on Earth, a last-minute seperation/divorce? That would factor heavily into killing Branson and possibly being inappropriately attracted/pursuant of Daniels.

He might do so, or he might well have set his capsule to open a few days after everyone else was in hypersleep, and then sabotaged Branson's capsule in a way that would slip by the suspicions of the ship's computer and Walter. Oram strikes me as being VERY intelligent, frighteningly-so if he's after something he wants very badly.

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Not to be a spoil sport, but crews going on big missions get screened pretty heavily before leaving. People seemed pretty casual about Branson being ill and fatigued. It seems Walter would have examined him before he went to sleep. A crew member with fatigue and cold/flu symptoms should be a red flag to the second in command and medical officer. Sorry, I am done now... for now lol!

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Facehuggers!, great question. 

Carter Burke was the best example of reptilian apathy we have seen next to Peter Weyland. Oram? Why not.

Oram could have ulterior motives.

We all have idiot moments when excited, embarrassed, jealous, or pouting (Dr. Holloway). In the Alien universe, the humans are as lethal as the aliens. I don't discount A.I. trimming the herd either, so Branson could have been done in by a number of contenders.

Vickers asked David 8 when the arrived off the edge of LV-223 if there were any "casualties". This could be a rare but not too rare occurrence of casualties (deaths) in hypersleep.

Jealousy cuts across millennia and I'm sure space as well so we have to be aware of human motivations.

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 For what purpose? Oram and Branson they are both captains, Oram captain mission and Branson of the ship, I do not think so, after all Oram will be betrayed by David. So in this playful clue probably 100%: Walter and MU-TH-UR.

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In the Last Supper prologue, it seems as though the crew as a whole is not too fond of Branson, although it could just be a general "captain buzzkill" situation. That may be why they don't seem too concerned about his poor health. And if Oram is the one to kill Branson, I'm sure he would easily be able to avoid taking blame. (Especially if he is an android.)

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HappyXeno I can see your point about being a buzz kill but the red flag/concern would be more about making everyone else ill and possibly causing mission failure.

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I have thought this as a possibility also.   I don't think it has anything to do with an attraction to Daniels thought.  Oram's wife is on board.  (Carmen Ejogo's Character)

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The movie with its Viral content is trying to tease us to Oram being up to no good.

First we have the Last Supper Viral which is named and done in a way to show some kind of tension between Oram and the rest of the crew he feels a bit of a outcast, yet he realizes he has vast amounts of experience.  

The whole Last Super Viral was done in a way to make us wonder... WHO IS THE JUDAS?

The Oram Name gets its origin from Old Norse and can mean Serpent and Dragon, which Satan is also referred to... and Satan does not have to mean the Devil, it is a word that can mean (opposer, adversary and deceiver).

So you could say its teasing those who look into things that Oram indeed has something behind the reasons for the loss of Captain Jacob.

But would he kill him?  Out right? Who knows..

Jacob seemed very ill before he went into Cryo-sleep and so can we question did Oram make him unwell... poison him?  Or knowing he was not well simply gave Oram time to manipulate the Cryo-sleep pod?  Make it look like he died from his illness.

But we dont know for sure what happens to Jacob (especially as far as the exact cause). To rule out Accident, Sabotage or something more sinister.

I have a feeling this movie is not being as vague as Prometheus, instead its throwing us some clues that could be potential Red Herrings that could lead to to conclude a few things.

*Is this LV-426 (nope as its a Planet with Moons)

*Is the Juggernaught the Derelict

*Does David create the Eggs that are on the Derelict

*Is David the Bad Guy

*Is Oram the Bad Guy

Etc as there are many more, and i feel a number will be Red Herrings that are a attempt to steer us away from a few Plot Twists so we are surprised.... But we wont be ;)

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Indeed Ryan_C

I forgot to mention that in my reply too... Indeed Orams Wife is Kareen (Ejogo)

Billy Cudrup has said that in some way his character was supposed to be a antagonist of sorts, but the character is pretty much someone who makes some really bad calls and judgements that put the rest of the crew in Danger.

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@BigDave

WHO IS THE JUDAS?

good point! Here is my answer Luke 22:48 

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I've been wondering too, some comments made it seem like they were concealing who is an ai, like there might possibly be a surprise in store, but the argument against Oram is that he's apparently an evangelical of some type & that seems to run contrary to what we've seen in the past with David.

As far as being an antagonist, I think true believers as characters tend to be stubborn and less prone to rational thinking which makes them ideal antagonists without necessarily being adversaries.

I've been mulling over the specifics of an ai like Walter (vs. David) being a host, I agree with BW-W it doesn't square, but given the advanced nature of the bioorganics it's not an complete non-starter. The question it raises is, the protomorph we've been seeing is slick skinned and sinewy, the classic alien has these biomorphic details, so let's assume the protomorph comes out of Oram, perhaps David used Walter to make the (as yet unseen) classic alien, it adapting to the host body and adopting those traits. I'm not 100% sure, but it's an interesting premise. Why are we so sure an alien couldn't gestate? 

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