CGI and Practical Aliens, and Which Alien are You Looking Forward to Most?

"I promise that I will never joke with you again S.M "

Jokes are fine.

Cherry picking things out of context, misrepresenting, snide sneering; not much fun in that.

You still won't explain what I "took out of context"

Also, explain what you considered "misrepresenting" and "snide sneering" 

Take your time

EDIT.  I posted a response but removed it.  PM me if you want to pursue the drama.

EDIT: Why did you remove it S.M? 

You certainly give me the impression of being upset.

I honestly initially interpreted your first paragraph as more of a standalone general statement, then I provided my opinion on practical vs CG effects in Alien and Deep Blue Sea which crossed my mind. Is it possible for you to believe that? The first thing that crossed my mind was my own comparison, can we put it into consideration? 

It is beyond me how you believe that I'm trying to undermine your opinions. To be crystal clear; that is not my intention as I see no value or joy in that whatsoever. Wouldn't me also agreeing with your second paragraph (and several times before) be a sign of that? I think you've made a lot of good points here in the forum. 

As for "juvenile" S.M, please, don't stay too close to the mirror when you reply. I didn't call your statements "dumb" or "desperately important opinions" and I'm sure not calling you a "precious little petal" 

He removed it because he had to concentrate on how to attack my topic in the other thread.

I removed it because it's pointless drama that will achieve nothing.

2001's sfx was pretty outstanding for 1968 i watch it now and i still say wow! "this was made the year before man walking on the moon".

I reckon mixture of both cg and practical in a balanced way, over use of cg tends to spoil a film, thats my opinion anyway.

A drama queen. :)

airshaft, 2001 - the same here

I do prefer practical. However, CGI when it's done right is excellent! I gotta say that shot in the trailer with the protomorph at the very end of it looked great! If they all look like that I'll be A OK with it!

Some people have had issues with that shot.  I tried to find fault with it and couldn't.

Practical effects over CGI for close-ups but for more aereal shots, CG and for any enhancements such as movements which might be stiff with puppets. But blood effects and any time the Alien is on screen with actors, I would prefer a physical rig to CG. 

Side note: Cut the senseless arguing folks. I've noticed this crop up in a few topics now. I understand when two people have strong opinions it can get heated when challenging the other's points, but please stop taking responses so personally. This is an Alien forum, not a Facebook comment section. We're all here to geek out about the same stuff so enjoy the experience and appreciate differing opinions. Discuss, don't argue.

I can't recall good CG blood effects.  Which would mean there's probably some out there and it's been convincing enough not to notice.  Shaun of the Dead had some from memory that fooled me.  But then you look at something like Expendables or the unrated version of AvP and they're laughably bad.

Usually the overuse of gore always results in an unrealistic effect of blood. I would say more often than not however practical blood effects and old school injury effects seem far more realistic than the CGI alternatives, on average.

The case for using digital blood makes sense.  Squibs are time-consuming to rig up, then might not fire properly and you need multiple costumes/ suits for multiple takes.

However I think there's a random element to squibs that's hard to replicate digitally.

I work in a field of seeing and dealing with injuries and blood. Movies usually over do it especially when the casualty is trying to be heroic and speaks coherently (blood loss on the ground is not in the brain thus a cascade of  events incompatible with talking or shooting accurately). I couldn't give two craps about how much fake blood a movie claims to use.

Yeah, but Braindead was ace.

I was watching the TV series The Fall not long ago and a cop in that got shot in the arm, and rather than carrying on as if nothing happened, his arm was in a sling for a long time after and they were talking about he might not regain full use of it.  Seemed to be one of the more realistic portrayals.

SM- exactly. I never saw that show but it is nice to know some pay attention to details like that.

We have about 6 liters of blood. It is comical to see a victim crawling in a pool of his own blood that easily looks like a gallon with good thinking skills, good fine motor dexterity etc. Medical types can really poop a party!

Awesome responses everyone! I agree with Chris. Debating is fine (dare I say encouraged) but the second it turns personal, you guys should take it to the DMs or shut it down. Neomorph and SM, your guy's opinions are some of the ones on here that I respect the most. 

But anyway, many of you haven't answered the second part of my question. What monsters are you hoping to see??

OP- I want to see mutations leading up to the Xeno more than the Xeno for this film.