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ninXeno426

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David and Walter

I've been thinking about this one for a while.It seems likely that a mission was sent to Paradise sometime prior to the Covenant mission.Obviously this mission potentially failed,but what if someone survived long enough to send a message to Weyland-Yutani(Or more likely still Weyland Corporation)to inform them that they made contact with David.So what if Walter's true purpose on the Covenant is to make contact with David,and perhaps bring him back along with his knowledge of creation.It would possibly be safer than trying to bring a live specimen like they usually attempt.Walter also apparently has a chip of some kind,what if that allows him to find David easier?Could Walter even have been specifically designed for these reasons?

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'Mornig, ninXeno!

That's an interesting thought... assuming this point of view, the 2000 colonists could have been sent to serve the purposes of experimentation?

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Who really knows i guess a lot is down to where Ridley and Fox want to go with this and how good the writing team is, as they obviously have to avoid any potential Plot Holes/Lose Ends as such.

The Covenant Crew are supposed to not be aware of the Prometheus mission at all, and they are supposed to be off to a different location when they intercept a signal of Human Origin (could mean its in English transmitted by a Human/Synthetic)  This signal will maybe be some kind of SOS saying they are stranded on a very Earth like World

I have a sneaky feeling something may not be all there with Walter, but latest Press Release seem to indicate David took Oram (Crudup) around his Lab and not Walter.... have to wonder where David got those clothes from as he was not wearing them in Prometheus but maybe this is lazy writing.

The fact Oram (means Serpent/Dragon) and they was touching on the Paradise Lost theme, makes me wonder is this just a Red Herring?  Or does Oram have some hidden Agenda and is he actually privy to some inside information?

 

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Are synthetics capable of lying to humans. David told Oram that the eggs where perfectly safe and bam.

 

Unless Walter was posing as David. 

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I have to post this here...

What do you guys think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmV2CaZy7Uw

 

 

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@BigDave  thats a great video, nice find lol

 

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Credit has to go to AVPGalaxy in a way... i had a nose on their site as i have started to now and again... and i saw someone post this and had to post it here.....

I think its only a matter of time before we find out whats going on in Alien Covenant and i cant wait for the debates come after May ;)

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ninXeno426, that is really good.

"Obviously this mission potentially failed,but what if someone survived long enough to send a message to Weyland-Yutani(Or more likely still Weyland Corporation)to inform them that they made contact with David.So what if Walter's true purpose on the Covenant is to make contact with David,and perhaps bring him back along with his knowledge of creation.It would possibly be safer than trying to bring a live specimen like they usually attempt."

This could be where the collection of eggs (who knows) came from ready for the Covenant crew. David could have cultivated a queen from his available biology and produced these eggs.

Weyland-Yutani Corporation, yes, could have gotten word about what was happening on Paradise. Walter could then be tailored for the task.

Weyland-Yutani Corporation could then have told any story to the Covenant crew in the message they sent regarding diverting their mission to go investigate the signal on Paradise.

 

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Hmmm... That's interesting. That part of the trailer, where Walter is sitting in the pilots chair and the ship is experiencing some rough air, and he seems to be looking back at the crew... I allways thought it looks like he is hiding something, like he is thinking "You have no idea what awaits you" or something like that. Could be totaly wrong, but it is a feeling I get.

 

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Parkerparrot -- But that man is Crudup/Oram, the captain, not Walter...

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Thank you Ingeniero.Regarding the cultivation of the eggs,I can't help but think Dr.Elizabeth Shaw has possibly become queen Elizabeth Shaw.It would one:explain why the eggs appear to be different.Two:Shaw's ultimate fate.I think back to her giving birth to the trilobite and that umbilical cord.We already know Black goo byproducts have a tremendous healing rate,so i can't help but think that something began to grow inside her,or,more likely change her.

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As for David/Walter lying,yes i think it's possible if it's part of their programming.While it may not have been lying,But Ash did hide his objective very well.There had to be a little lying in there somewhere.

 

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Lying is a fairly complex concept. It encompases knowing what is true, self preservation, applying whatever moral or ethics were learned, and deception that conflicts what was learned vs an alternate agenda......or some psycho babble crap like that.

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Indeed.I certainly believe David is capable of it.The recent reveal of the David prologue in Covenant certainly suggests he's more human than we initially believed.

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Ati... You're right. It's Crudup. My bad. Allways thought it to be Walter... Had do watch the scene severel times again before I got that. Should start to wear my glasses again, maybe...

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I do think David will have either used Shaw for experiments or he just went along with it because she started to mutate due to her "pregnancy" but i am almost certain that Ridley Scott will not use the queen in his movies, call it a hunch, but i feel that since it is not his own creation he will steer clear of it. While the Queen is cool looking and mean its only surface level stuff and there is nothing much to her and it makes the xenomorph just an insect. I believe he will play with the goo and the mutating concept to explain the eggs as that is more in line with his ideas and the idea of mutating and not relying on a queen makes the xenomorph or protomorph much scarier and the idea of mutation is terrifying because its harder to understand and come to grips with for the movie characters, if there is a queen they quickly just become insects and it removes that ancient cosmic horror element rather quickly

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I agree Grinning & Dropping Linen in regards to the queen introduced and mutation. I think we are underestimating how excited (projected emotion) David 8 was on Paradise to get to work.

What if David 8 was able to harvest this Weyland-Yutani Corporation tech from another crew he invited to Paradise?

I believe David 8 could impress us with a hack on the Bio-Replicator Pod above.

With a little ingenuity, I'm sure David 8 could cut up millions of examples of DNA and produce a biological tool he needed or maybe something more impressive.

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Good catch Ingeniero...i think David could do all sorts or ghastly things with creation using something like those Bio-replicator pods in your attached photo

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What if Walter's only purpose is to let David advance his experiments by letting  him use him as a guinea pig. It seems Walter was made different from that viral video. Maybe this is the purpose. The 2k colonists are also guinea pigs that WY sent to David to further his knowledge.

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If the colonists turn out just to be Company-provided lab rats the movie would be so much darker.

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Auximenes:Indeed,it wouldn't be the First time(or in this case possibly the first time)that Weyland-Yutani considered a crew expendable.Though you'd truly have to be sadistic to send 2000 to their deaths intentionally.

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