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The Dog Alien

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Much like the Newborn Alien this is also controversial among fans.Some times praised for it's viciousness,other times criticized for not being scary at all.From my point of view it's a welcome addition to the xenomorph family line.There are some things said about that are true like the CGI puppet being pretty distracting.Those visual effects have certainly aged over the past 25 years.Where do you stand?

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visually, the CGI of the time didn't do the dog alien any justice but the concept is great. that the xeno takes the characteristics of its host was def original. makes me think, would xenos, birthed from different animals on the same planet be aggressive towards each other? is the base dna of the xeno strong enough for them to view each other as simply a xenomorph and co-exist?

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If it takes a lot from animal behavior,then it seems very likely that they would not get along.

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The Dog was cool. I could overlook the CGI. What made me wonder was how it crawl on ceilings and we could see what it saw with that fish eyed FP POV. Strange but not a deal breaker for me.

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 The cgi while not great is not a problem for me either.The thing is down right vicious and that's something i love about it.

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It wasn't CGI.  It was either Tom Woodruff Jnr (or a stunty) in a suit, or a rod puppet.

The only CG Alien in Alien3 was the bambi burster shot specifically created for the Assembly Cut in 2003.

It's probably my least favourite design 'cos I like the dorsal tubes, and some of the compositing is very average.

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The puppet is what i mean.I also think the close up of it's dome cracking after the molten lead is also CGI.

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There's varying accounts of that, but as far as I know it's just the cracks that are CG over the practical full scale suit.

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At any rate, I liked the Dog. The lack of dorsal tubes was different but fit its sleek and fast design.

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The lack of dorsal tubes i never noticed.

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to get onto the point of the vicious nature of the dog alien. going by my earlier question, do u think the viciousness of the dog alien was because it was the only one of its kind and knew it had no way of reproduction? as queried, xenos birthed from different host species may very well not get along. to my knowledge the dog it birthed from was the only one so its species of xeno wasn't going to continue. now that it has no reason to keep hosts alive, we may just be seeing the raw aggression of the basic xeno dna?

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I like to think the Dog was extra vicious since its host was a creature that was more about survival and opportunity- not about being calculating such as ones from human hosts?

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Intriguing question ali81.I agree with dk on the viciousness part.It knowing it can't continue can be reinforced by it ensuring the survival of Ripley's queen.

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maybe if it knew its species (dog alien) could continue then it may have killed ripley thus eliminating a rival species. by knowing it had no way for more of its kind to be berthed, it allows ripley, and the rival species queen, to live. the queen may even kill the dog alien when birthed

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 It's a possibility.I would be curious to see how a hive might treat an animal.Would they view it as a bastardisation of their species?

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that's what im theorising. in essence they r all the same but still come from different host species so how much of the host dna other than characteristics r present? if different species of xeno wont tolerate another then id imagine the queen would kill the dog alien first chance it got. it may just be that the dog alien doesn't kill ripley because it senses the embryo is a queen and the basic xeno instinct would kick in and allow ripley to live. if it was just a standard xeno embryo, it may think differently and kill ripley?

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This is an intriguing idea.I think this warrants its own thread.

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would be interesting to see others opinions on the theory

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 I just started one.Check it out.

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tbh I don't think fincher put too much thought into this concept and its most likely as simple as xeno protecting its queen and the host animal doesn't have much influence other than characteristics such as appearance etc. though I don't think other than sheer professionalism fincher ended up putting too much fresh ideas into the project after a point. he had so little creative control if any control over the project and has stated he would like to be disassociated with it altogether

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I agree.Fincher came in and said he wanted something more animal like,so they gave him an animal.It more or less left us fans to speculate on It's true purpose considering how comprised the film was.

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