Zeta II Reticuli, a weapons development facility?
Gavin
MemberTrilobiteJune 19, 201612638 Views36 Replies
Not too long ago I created a graphic novel called Prometheus: Absolution, in which I hypothesized how the derelict Juggernaut ended up on LV-426. Many of you appreciated the work, citing it as the most probable explanation as to the lone Engineer pilots fate. With Alien: Covenant having ignited a new wave of discussions into the Alien franchise many of us are again looking at the movie series with fresh eyes, noticing things we never realized before. As such I have looked back at the graphic novel and realized that unfortunately, it's all a load of rubbish, because of one inconsistency that has been a topic of debate since the first movie was released - the notorious egg silo or chamber.
Up until 2012's Prometheus the underside of the derelict Juggernaut had never been seen on screen. The measurements of the model used for the alien craft in behind the scenes material's showed that the egg silo could not be part of the vessel, leading some fans to theorize that the compartment was the interior of a structure hidden on the moon, echoing elements from the original script that were abandoned during production of the 1979 classic that featured a pyramid.
In Prometheus Captain Janek infers that LV-223 was a weapon storage facility built by the Engineers to store the deadly biological weapon, and the two Juggernaut's depicted in the movie, and the holographic mapping of the alien craft clearly confirm that the egg silo cannot feasibly exist beneath the platform used by the Engineer to pilot the craft, though it was shown that Juggernauts do carry a cargo of many thousands, possibly millions of urns containing the deadly biological weapon stored on LV-223.
It would seem highly likely, if not certain that the egg silo is part of an Engineer created structure on Acheron LV-426 used to store the Xenomorph eggs. With at least one of the multiple facilities on LV-223 containing urns carrying a biological agent "tainted" with Xenomorph DNA and at least one facility on LV-426 containing Xenomorph eggs, educated speculation would suggest that the two moons are part of a biological weapon factory, with each moon housing a different stage in the weapons development. With there being three moons in orbit around Calpamos, our speculation can reasonably suggest that the third, unnamed moon may likely have at least one Engineer created structure used as part of the development of the deadly biological weapon known by fans as the "Black Goo."
If we assume that the structure(s) on LV-426 was used to house the raw materials - the Xenomorph eggs, with the facilities on LV-223 known for being used to store the weapon developed from the eggs on LV-426. Logic would dictate that the facility we have speculated to be on the third moon is therefore used to create the deadly weapon. The Xenomorphs ability to metamorphose organic hosts into eggs incubating a Xenomorph Facehugger seems directly related to the deadly weapons ability to genetically infect victims with Xenomorph attributes. With the black goo developed from Xenomorph eggs it would suggest that the results of the black goo - the Trilobite and the Deacon, were not examples of the proto-form of the Xenomorph, but a weaponized variant of the creature, to be used to wipe out entire ecosystems and not just the hosts that inhabit them.
As to where the eggs come from still remains a mystery, and therefore, the Xenomorphs origin also remains unknown, maintaining the mystery. However, it is possible that there are other lunar systems throughout the galaxy used by the Engineers to store the Xenomorph eggs, the urns and whatever nightmarish facility exists on Calpamos' third moon.
Unfortunately, I realize that this realization only sheds light on the moons of Calpamos, and the Engineers presence there - everything else puts us all back to square one - we don't know what happened to the lone pilot on LV-426, we don't know where else to find Xenomorph eggs, we don't know where the Engineers come from nor why they intended to use the deadly weapon on us 2000 years ago. Though it does make me wonder what the facility on the third moon looks like (Gigers Homage to Bocklin, maybe - pictured below) and the nightmarish mechanisms and alchemy it contains.
A way i explained this before would be if the Cargo Hold could be attached to the bottom of the craft much like this
From Thunderbird, but imagine this does not go inside but remains attached to the bottom and the Derelict releases the Cargo Hold onto a Surface, and disengages the Protective Myst Barrier.
This is how before i explained a way around it. But then again the Cargo Hold would have been much bigger still.
Its just one of those movie mistakes.... which Ridleys comments all these years still does not add up, only in a way that i explained it could work... unless we go Dr Who Dimensional transcendentalism
The thing is Ridley had said the Derelict had a cargo of Eggs for a long time but his last comment on the Derelict sugested the Cargo Evolved.
And as we have never had the Space Jockey Story Told on Screen, they can change it and what they do with it can be CANNON while Ridleys long time comments then be decanonized.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Yes they are slightly different SM but its hard to judge with the Derelict as we cant quite see how much of the ship is buried.
The Derelict is also perched at a angle which makes it harder to judge.
But regardless i think in General we have to Accept the Derelict is a Smaller, slightly different variant of the Juggernaught.
Maybe as a Example.... LOL
But yeah only near twice the size...
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
On the topic of the egg silo on LV-426...
Ridley Scott, be him the director and one of the fathers of this franchise, is one of the most unreliable directors when it comes to consistency and continuity. For years the Space Jockey was the long-dead remains of a giant elephantine alien creature, then come 2012 we are told instead it is a tall Apollonian in a biomechanical flight suit. Then there is the Space Jockey scene in which he first used his kids in space suits to make the pilot look around 20 feet in height, but then used the cast in the remaining shots, which then made the pilot look around 10 feet in height. And let's not forget how many different cuts and editions there are of Bladerunner. This is also the guy who thought it a good idea to have the Alien kill Ripley and send a voice message, in English, back to Earth. So when it comes to what Ridley may have or may not have said, I'll instead refer to the only true evidence, which is that of which we see on screen.
Earlier replies have suggested that the Derelict on LV-426 is half the size of the Juggernaut on LV-223, yet according to both Wikia's Alien Anthology and Xenopedia, both of the vessels are actually the same size - 173.4 meters or 571.8 feet. But regardless, we can use, as said, on screen evidence...
The set for famous Space Jockey scene in Alien (pictured above top) and the set for the egg chamber (pictured above bottom) are in actuality the same set, so when comparing the size of the Jockey room and the egg silo complete with matte painting we can ascertain that the egg silo is as tall if not taller than the Jockey room. As pictured below the Jockey room in Juggernaut, and thus by extension in the Derelict also makes up the central section of the craft.
Were the plausibility of the egg silo being part of the Derelict falls apart is the width, and shape of the aforementioned silo. comparing the matte painting image of the egg silo to that of the Jockey room, the silo is too wide and too long to correspond as being part of the derelict - the egg silo quite simply dwarves the Derelict by comparison. While it has been argued that the derelict may have carried the egg silo like a cargo container, in this instance it would be like a Chinook carrying a cargo freighter full of cargo containers.
From the evidence shown on screen the egg silo, in my opinion, has to be a facility buried on the surface of LV-426. But why is the Derelict sat atop of this facility and why does the technology of the egg silo and the Derelict on LV-426 differ to that on of the Pyramid and Juggernaut on LV-223?
I believe that the most viable possibility is that the Derelict landed and docked with the facility on LV-426 for reasons unknown and the pilot fell foul to one of the eggs stored within.
As for the differences in technology, I think there are two possibilities. The first possibility is that Engineer technology including the Juggernauts start off as purely mechanical, becoming biomechanical over a period of time, with the facility on LV-426 being much older than that on LV-223. The second possibility is that silo, craft, and pilot on LV-426 are not Engineer, but was discovered by the Engineers who then used LV-223 (pictured above) to replicate the technology as best they could and weaponize the contents of the eggs discovered within the silo.
If we accept the latter possibility, thus inferring that the Space Jockey is not an Engineer, then rather than an elephantine alien as seen in the Dark Horse comics, believe a combination of C'thulu and the following fan art (by DeviantArt's Bloommer) could be what these ancient aliens once looked like...
Just compare the 3 side port holes on both ships and their size relations to Shaw (PROMETHEUS) and Dallas (ALIEN).
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Obviously, the Derelict is quite a bit smaller!
