How did a Queen egg end up inside the Sulaco?

@Engineer Tech Brett - One of the main problems with any theory is we don't know where it is. There's no point of reference with the previous film.

@Necronom 4 - The ICC is the Interstellar Commerce Commission. Which was a mistake on my part, which I changed to ECA (Extrasolar Colonisation Administration). Both of these entities are not part of Weyland-Yutani and both are referenced in the second film.

Neither would be cavalier about smuggling dangerous organisms, and even if they were, Bishop had two live facehuggers to take back, and when Ripley said she wanted them destroyed he had the perfect opportunity to lie and agree to destroy them. Instead he exposed Burke's desire to return them.

Yes ICC (quarantine) was mentioned in ALIENS, but how do you know they were not connected to WY? That wasn't in the film.

Have you been reading them books again? It's very questionable that they are canon.

With regards to those two live facehuggers that Bishop was drooling over; is it not possible that those particular specimens were destroyed in one particular scene of the film?  

All the novels released since Out Of The Shadows are canon, but no I'm not referencing them.

The ICC is a regulatory body and not part of WY. If it were, Burke wouldn't need to smuggle anything past quarantine.

Not sure of the point you're trying to make in regards to the two live huggers.  They were shot by Hudson and Vasquez, but this was some time after Ripley asked Bishop to destroy them.

"All the novels released since Out Of The Shadows are canon, but no I'm not referencing them."

Really?

I think Burke could possibly be an android. Bishops states that there was an alien with them all the way. That could mean from Gateway. If so, then Burke could be responsible for that. After all, Burke is able to free two facehuggers onto Ripley and Newt in medlab without being facehugged himself. But even before then Burke says to Ripley that she has ‘our’ word about wanting to wipe out the xenos. I would expect a person to say ‘my’, not ‘our’.  Even when Burke finally comes face to face with a xeno, we never actually witness his demise. Burke is completely ignorant of Ripleys feelings about androids, and it is only after Bishops cuts himself, that Burke is forced to confront the issue of what happened with Ash. Ash of course, who was out to protect the xeno at all costs.

We are told in Aliens that thousands of eggs were on board the derelict, so why the need for a queen. The queen as far as we know only comes about after the colony on LV426 is exposed. The existence of a queen would be a game changer for the company, but up to the point of knowing about the possibility of a queen, putting eggs on the Sulaco before setting off from Gateway would make sense. The Nostromo only needed one xeno to wipe out the crew and the crew were expendable. Ash was prepared to go with this plan, and if Burke was an android, then Burke would be happy to see out a similar plan.

The derelict must have been discovered previously by the company to extract eggs, and maybe only androids would be able to carry eggs without disturbing them. 20 yrs of colonists on LV426, yet no one goes out looking for something to discover? This is explained when Newts family go looking for the derelict, because they went looking on company orders, and more importantly, only if their discoveries are honoured by the company. The company obviously had a reputation for not honouring peoples rights.

The outcome of what happened on LV426 might not have worked out how Burke planned, but he certainly had a big hand in overseeing all aspects of company business on LV426, which is why I think he was and android who wanted to complete and extend Ash’s mission.

Burke says "my" in the script and that's what it sounds like in the film.

If Burke wanted to complete Ash's mission why didn't he do it when the colony was first established?

Shoulda been because Newt was Eggmorohed, I'm tellin ya.

Ha ha, I'm dictating as I do oyster things and that line autocorrected to 'Should've been because nudes was egg borscht'.

Anyway. Not that there would've been any viable explanation for that outcome, either, but it sure would've been some hard-core fun. Imagine, Ripley realizing she had been face hugged by what was left of Newt.

Edit: OTHER, not oyster

Well Alien 3 was very ambigious...

The "it was with us all the way" and "company knows everything"

Could mean a number of things, for one it could be they have Logs of the Fire in Cryo Chamber only, and so to assume how Bishop knew it was a Alien, then maybe he assumed this because the ships log detected a life form/ping movement when the only people on the ship was Ripley, Hicks and Newt oh and Bishop.

But it could go deeper as far as if the company was aware, now i wandered if Bishop had 2nd orders and he put it there, but then there is no proof of this, there is no proof for any way that the Egg Got on board.

I am going to make these few observations.

*If there was a 2nd Android or Bishop had the Egg, (Eggs) then why would he (Bishop) had placed it hidden the way he did... he would surely not have know what would happen with the Queen ripping him apart and so the Egg would have had to had been placed prior.

Would he not had tried to hide it someplace, and then place it near one of the 3 survivors when in cryo sleep?

If there was another Android who was onboard then likewise would they had not placed the Egg near the Cryo Sleep and opened one... this would have prevented the Fire.... and if there was another Android did he leave in a escape module?

*Are we too assume the Sulaco is destroyed?

*I dont by the secret mission of Marines hidden on board, but it cant be ruled out... but then surely they would have a plan to had infect someone on board or to safely store the Eggs and not place it where the one was shown... stuck upside down... think of that for a moment.

THEREFORE...

I can only Logically conclude that the Queens Process of creating the Eggs is something goes on inside of the body and smaller eggs are held, that are then passed into the ovipositor where they grow.

So maybe the Queen has a few undeveloped Eggs that are stored inside her and she deposited them on the ship and they then grew?

I buy this because we dont see the Queen with any Eggs as she was chasing after Ripley, but the Queen Sneaked on board.   And the biggest clue for me is  why would any one else or how would anyone else be able to place a Egg upside down so it sticks to the surface in that way?

Again this was a problem of not really putting much thought into the whole process...

In my previous post, I pretty much washed over why Burke and Ripley were assigned to join the marines to investigate Hadley's Hope...

Burke was an opportunist and greedy with it, I imagine he was either assigned to ensure Ripley and the marines deaths while grabbing specimens of the xenomorph, or he uncovered the truth about LV-426 after he was assigned as Ripleys liaison and saw the opportunity to make a power play in the WY ranks.

The execs at WY likely will have seen Burkes success rate as low, and rather than depend on the greedy git instead trusted in a black ops, special forces type team. To ensure all loose ends are tied up the mission objectives of this second team would have been - remain hidden onboard the Sulaco, wake before the marines, head down to the derelict after the marines, returning with eggs in time for when Bishop remote controls the second dropship. Then with Ripley, Newt, Hicks and bishop failing to succumb to the xenomorphs the "wetsuits" were ordered to leave one of the eggs in the cryosleep area before dispatching in one of the dropships to meet with the USS Patna. 

In short, a WY sanctioned team of hard arses, hidden aboard the Sulaco place one of the eggs they got from the derelict, as per their mission, to ensure no-one survived the mission... remember; crew expendable.

Why not Bishop though? Though he could have been overridden by WY, he didn't have enough time, and Ripley would have checked for any eggs after having to face a Queen.

Yes that would be a interesting idea Gavin...  But could leave us with many Questions... such as why would they use what little Eggs they got to place on the Sulaco and then where did the Special Ops go to would they not want to observe and stay close to the Sulaco and so watch what happens?

Was the Sulaco destroyed, did it have any more Eggs? and would a Special Ops team who would have known about the Potential for a Organism i.e Order 937 have some fail safes and plans to Quarantine a Egg or Face Huger to take back with them...

Which means why bother going after Ripley in Alien 3, unless they knew she was having a Queen?

But i may thrown in a idea to make a Special Ops work.... that is what if Micheal Bishop was a Android too and what if prior to Alien 3 he was either on the Sulaco, or on a mission just after it. 

He and the Sulaco's Computer doing a Ash/Mother

Could this other Bishop had even managed to get to and past other Marines if they thought he was the Bishop assigned to them?

I dont understand if another ship or hidden crew obtained Eggs from the Derelict then how did they do this and then would they not want to take some back and not place them all on the Sulaco with the hope to infect Ripley, Hicks and Newt.

I think the SMOKING GUN has to be how the Egg was stuck upside down and why?  To me this seems more like a Plan that the Queen would do... or another Xenomorph that had got on board with a Egg.

When it comes to specific types of eggs being laid to denote what type of Xeno is produced, that's been explored in AvP comics but I very much like the idea that was laid down in the RTS game AvP:Extinction. Because Xenomorphs are constantly evolving in line with their environment (taking key genetic traits from their host for maximum chances of survival for example) the queens constantly produce an inhibitive hormone/pheromone preventing further evolution of the hive. If for some reason the queen dies or is killed by a rival then the hive goes into a frenzy as warrior drones go into an accelerated state of evolution and develop into Pretorians (first 3 to revolve win where those that fail to complete the transition stop and die of their mutations if far enough along) and start emitting a pheromone of their own driving every drone into a bloodlust and preventing the rest of the hive evolving. Not only are they fighting against potentially thousands of drones but they're also trying to kill each other. Once one emerges victorious and only one of them is emitting this pheromone the levels of said pheromone drop to a level where the hive calms down and the Pretorian now develops into a queen further strengthening the hive as the strongest emerges victorious and any weakness from the drones has been weeded out in the fracas.

I've always LOVED the life cycle of the Xenomorphs. It's always fascinated me. Ever since I was a kid. Right from the egg right round to the queen and (in female war novel/comic) queen mothers and queen-sized drone on their "origin" planet.

As for the egg? WY build and program the "artificial persons" so wether or not they are "third-lawed" or not takes a back seat when it comes to secret overrides. A specific set of circumstances present themselves and the protocol kicks in. Bishop is totally unaware almost like split personality syndrome where a limited facet of his programming takes over, does what it dose, returns him back to whatever and wherever he was and then goes dormant again just erases not only itself but any trace of his movements placing eggs, disabling bio scans for contraband and wotnot. 

OR....It's a alternate timeline....and I think this is what  A L I E N 5 is going for.

We don't understand the egg on the Sulaco because it's a separate reality?

In the Alien3 universe the Queen didn't announce herself, instead she waited for the crew to enter cryo-sleep....... killing Ripley would have been senseless, better to use her body and the warm bodies of the crew?

Wow everyone has brought amazing theories! alot of new info for me as far as android intentions with other characters, also stowaway company androids and teams on standby, theory of the egg, Dreams, the comic books, and canons etc... Amazing stuff everyone! I feel like watching aliens and aliens 3 again now with the new theories in mind. Thanks for feeding the discussion. ;)

 Wow have we forgotten what happened in Aliens, and what Bishop says to Ripley?

"Mr. Burke gave specific instructions that the specimens be preserved to be returned to the company labs.

He was very specific about that."

So Bishop being the good android that he was followed company orders, and snuck some eggs on board. Did we ever see or hear that Bishop destroyed them? Nope.

 Wow have we forgotten what happened in Aliens, and what Bishop says to Ripley?

"Mr. Burke gave instructions that the specimens be preserved to be returned to the company labs.

He was very specific about that."

So Bishop being the good android that he was followed company orders, and snuck some eggs on board. Did we ever see or hear that Bishop destroyed them? Nope.

@Arrgy; Hello and welcome to Scified. The two specimens were released by Burke into the room where Ripley and Newt were sleeping under the bed, Remember?

Those facehuggers were killed by Hudson and Vasquese I think.

Indeed. Hudson and Vasquez shot them.

@Monster Zero - How did the Queen know they were going to enter hypersleep?

@S.M

The Queen survived a trip in a vacuum, exposed to space in the landing gear of a drop ship....She took some time to recover...Thawed out and explored her new surrounding...Maybe 'smelled' Ripley down...Found her sleeping and left Eggs for the remaining crew. She died from her exposure to space..Sulaco was programmed to find the nearest star base.

No one talks about the Queen surviving the vacuum of space...not to mention a blast of radiation.