Weaver and who else?

I know the fangoria was originally viewed as a April fool, but wondered if it had been fully debunked, or is there an element of truth in this.?

Apologies admin I cocked up my editing on this.

Well it's strange how other sites are writing articles about Weaver's return. If it were an April fool, surely it would have been outed as such by now?

Also, Ridley and Weaver have just recently been working together on Exodus and i'm betting that they had conversations about Alien and Prometheus.

But, how would Ripley return?

Maybe, just maybe, instead of making a sequel to Prometheus, Ridley and Fox have decided to make ALIEN 5? I mean, first we had news that the follow up to Prometheus would be more alien-y and now news (if indeed it is true) that Ripley may return, points to an ALIEN 5.

I think Alien 5 will eventually happen, and I can see some people returning, but I doubt that they'll be back right away.

I don't think a time-travel plot will be used, however, things could take a turn in that sort of direction because of Weyland's references to M-theory.  You might not really be able to call it time-travel if it happens tho...And there might be better ways to do it.

Something tells me that an even more unexpected character will return before Ripley. Call. Winona Ryder. That may sound crazy right now, but there are a lot of reasons why I think Winona Ryder/Call is returning to the series in a hypothetical part 3.

I think Ripley 8 and Call will both make an appearance. Not in the sequel, but in part 3.  Big things have small beginnings. Call would show up before Ripley 8, during the period between Alien 3 and Resurrection. Things can be done in this period of time that will change Resurrection, and the way we perceive Call's mission in it... Symbols begin to appear in Alien resurrection relating to Shaw and David that we would have never noticed before. Changing the meaning of some of it.

Call can’t return until after Lydia returns in Beetlejuice 2, though...Then we find out why the android rebellion took place, and a little bit about her androids created by other androids. Why she worhsips the cross in the special edition...

Would be cool if Cameron would get onboard with Alien 5, and talk to Ridley about it again... Maybe just playing coy about his recent views on Prometheus, and secretly planning to film Alien 5 under the guise of some of the Avatar movies that he's filming back to back..

Maybe they're planning a huge "Blue Lagoon" thing and there is no Avatar 3 & 4, it's all a cover for Part 3 and Alien 5...lol maybe that series only goes to 2 and Ridley and Cameron have a huge trick up their sleeves.

Sigourney would secretly film parts of Prometheus 3 and Alien 5 with Cameron... Before Cameron and Ridley finish it together.

Cameron taught Ridley how to film with his 3D cameras, visited the Prometheus set, maybe taught Ridley some techniques for working with water tanks. Parts of Prometheus can be reused in Paradise because of the nature of the story.. Some things we've never seen that happened on ancient Earth possibly already filmed..

Ridley fires out his sequel. Then, in the process of filming Avatar 2 & 3, Ridley and Cameron have been secretly filming Prometheus part 3 instead of Avatar 3...Prometheus part 3 comes out shortly after Avatar 2 instead of Avatar 3.... Followed closely by Alien 5 (filmed under the guise of Avatar 4) to end off a secret hat-trick... We'll still think Avatar 3 is coming at first, not enough people will be paying attention to what Cameron is doing for Avatar 3 & 4 while he helps film it all; and provides cover to move Sigourney, other actors and Ridley into position.

Lol yeah I've been thinking about it for a while.

Ever since Cameron visited the set I've had this sinking suspicion that Cameron and Ridley are working together more than we know to set things up in secret.

They had discussions with Fox about doing Alien 5 together many years ago. I think Cameron always knew the gist of the plan for the prequels, but the prequels are mainly Ridley's job, and then Alien 5 is more like some of Cameron's old ideas for Alien 3, mixed with what Ridley has been bringing to the table. They might have even had earlier ideas about where things could go in Alien 5 that they've had time to rework.

Cameron would have to start distancing himself from Ridley, and put up a front right about now. He would begin having his own secret discussions with Weaver on the set of Avatar 2. Sigourney would act as a go between, helping them coodinate some of it, and eventually bringing enough characters together to visit the Alien homeplanet or something along those lines (if the Aliens weren't created and were found, then Cameron might want to go to the Alien homeplanet, but that idea might be off the table for a couple reasons).

After going though a batch of recent articles I thought it would be fair to pool a response. Seeing you guys are better connected than most, I think you will understand why I think this is going to be the source of much speculation.

@ Hiveminded, I think you just might like this.

Aliens cast reunited

@Batchpool

That's so awesome!!! How did I not know about this? I'm gonna be at the Expo this weekend!! I live in Edmonton. Like a 3 hr drive away.

I said I would go because my friends are really into anime and comics, and just kinda hoped that someone cool would be there. Lol I've never even been to a comic convention before, this is gonna be interesting..

So glad that you posted that. I can't believe I didn't even know! I found out my friends were going for the weekend and said yeah sure I'm not doing anything.

@SomethingReal

It would be so great to see it all come together. I really hope they've at least had talks about the series. I like Cameron's take on the Aliens having a hived form of intelligence when they group, but I think the Marines were wrong to compare them to Ants.

The way I see it, there's always a way to reach some sort of agreement. I don't wanna say compromise, because I wouldn't want either of them to compromise their artistic vision for the Alien. But I think there are ways to sort of combine perspectives and reach a mutual understanding on how Aliens act alone versus when they group together.

It could be something like a lone alien possesses queen level intellect, and when isolated Aliens become more unpredictable. Not necessarilly that the Aliens get less intelligent when they group together, but that the intelligence of the hive is dictated by the Alien in control, and different "chess matches" against different hives will happen in different ways. The Alien Queen made a few mistakes while conducting its battle against the Marines. But in the end the Queen took her Bishop, and almost won the match.

Ridley included quite a few visual nods to Aliens in Prometheus. He also said that the main four films and Prometheus are all canon to each other. He made efforts to work in ties to Aliens, as well as Alien. In some ways, I think Ridley is showing respect for everything that came after him, as well as doing his own thing. Finding a way to get the best of both worlds possibly... I love Alien & I also love Aliens, but for completely different reasons.

If they can make things work, and explain how each hive is a little different or something, or how the Queen was trying to strategically sacrifice some soldiers to test defenses at certain points, then there might be a way to make lone Aliens, Queens, warriors, drones all the same relative intelligence, but with different traits...Meaning the warriors willingly sacrifice themselves for their queen.

Ridley includes Resurrection as part of the series. There could even be visual nods on the basketball court and comparisons between Ripley 8 and David 8 to be made. When they began talks for Alien 5, before AVP was released, they might have started talking about how to deal with Resurrection.

AVP was really what killed the franchise and made the Alien completely dead to Ripley. For a while... Because now it's been given a rebirth. It wasn't until after Fox went ahead with AVP that Cameron and Ridley stopped talking about their Alien 5. They were talking about it since 1999, after the release of Resurrection, which could indicate that some details for a potential fifth movie had already been worked out. I think Fox and AVP is to blame for Ridley losing faith in the Alien.

Ridley was willing to discuss ideas for Alien 5 until those movies happened. I think Ridley thought things were salvageable after Resurrection, but then AVP screwed it all up... Made the monster less scary. Ridley had to create the Deacon to give us something new, something that we don't know what to expect from. Hopefully Fox is now aware of things & helping Cameron and Ridley. Since Avatar and Prometheus are both done by Fox,...the company could be supporting their plans, going along with the hypothetical covers of Avatar 3&4,

 have always had the idea 
That an alien 5 would have
Clone ripley and call accessing
Walmart (that bought out 
Weyland yutani )and finding
The info about the xeno
And the backward engineering
Of the black goo which
Opened up the engineer dna
Manipulation technology and
So clone ripley becomes the
First female engineer. And 
Approaches the singularity
Turning call into human being
But still the strength and 
Abilities of an android and
Memory . David finds this after
Reaching the engineer homeworld
. Perhaps calls becomes his wife.
Shaw meets ripley clone now an
Female engineer reaching the l
evels Of the elders and she 
takes shaw to The higher 
realm to meet her parents
And holloway..............
My idea how to get rioley
Back to alien . She herself 
Reunites with amy and dwayne
Hicks as well as newt.

Finally the xeno is seen as the proof
Of the mastery of the higher realm.
They now worship and bow to ripley.

She is complete........and ........

Well i dont think they could work together, they will be busy directors and i cant see them both spending time working on the same movie and also they both have a high oppinion of their own work and ideas and im not sure it would be a match made in heaven and compremise.

But who knows?

As far as doing a Alien 5 i think that would be something they could do to show us the Xeno again, but doing so is a very hard thing to do as well.... what have we not seen in a Alien movie?  Its been done to death on screen.  And no way a Alien 5 with Sigourney...

How does having a 64 year old  (even though she looks  good for that age) going to really wow us as a Clone with Xeno DNA, we would expect that having Xeno DNA makes her unique and special and all this would show is that she is Human afterall and Ages. Unless its set way way in future and Ripley 8 is well over 100 years old..

Nope i would only want her to appear if she does in a cameo, and i would assume as Prometheus part 2 is set before Alien, it cant be a flash back.. and i dont think cutting to future flash backs or flash forwards would be ideal.

I would cast her however as a relative in a Camero to Shaw, as Shaws Grand mother for example.

As far as Alien 5.... i would be up for that if at first we had a Alien 0....

Thus what i mean is if we do not get our Xeno Origins explained by the end of Prometheus or they wish this franchise to go a different route and not explain the Xeno.

I would be up for a Alien Origins movie, maybe called Alien Alpha.... a movie set in the past that shows us the Origins of the lifeform and its connection with the Engineers.

Then we could do a Alien 5, or Alien Apocalypse which is set futher in future after the events of Alien Resurection where indeed after this movie there is no Xenos left none what so ever....

And no having a Ripley 8... no thanks....

It need to be fresh... and that say some mission manages to find some remains of Engineer Race and Ship, maybe Shaw and David never get back or maybe they do but after they do they destroy all the Engineer ships and Tech on LV 223 by time of Alien.

And Paradise was simply to far to reach with Human Ships....... however in the future maybe a mission and maybe by Androids manages to find Paradise or some other outpost and they knew of the co-ordinates before Alien but had not means to get there fast, so a Android mission is sent that takes hundreds of years but then reaches its destination after the events of Alien Resurection.

And maybe either they find some Engineers/Elders or Engineer ships and use them to go back to Earth etc... carrying more Xeno Bio Weapons....

A way to then introduce the Xeno or related Organism back into the franchise and Engineers in a timeline set after Alien Resurection.

Also dont want to see M-Theory...

As well that can be used to explain Aliens vs Predator... you know same universe but alternative one...

Nope cus if they go that route then they may aswell bring Lindeloff back and give us a more Aliens meets Lost...

I would not put M-Theory being used however, as a way to well cover up Prometheus if it fails to impress the fans or do Alien justice.... because we could then just pretend that oh well Prometheus Franchise is just a M-Theory Alternative to Alien universe like AVP.... well more so like how the future Aliens comics and Prometheus ones by Dark Horse will be based in same universe but not actually have to be direct canon to the events of Alien if you know what i mean.

I though the purpose of Prometheus was to be canon and a prequel to Alien, to show us mainly who these Space Jockeys are and there Agenda, and to a degree what the connection with the Xeno was etc....

So i want anything shown to be classed as pure canon and events that are direct history to Alien movies... and not a potential alternative reality..

Thats just my oppinion and that dont mean thats what will happen, indeed we could see them go the route of M-Theory we just dont know... i hope not but we shall see.

Bigdave 

Yes !!!!

I also want p1 to be direct canon to a1 
And not a "possible" reality!!

Yes as in multiple dimensions of spacetime etc.

I dont want to go that route but it could be used, because doing so and setting Prometheus Franchise as its own story set in the Alien Universe (which it is)  but then going futher by saying its a alternative universe, well this could be used for Fox to then redo another prequel and canon for Alien if they feel Prometheus explanations dont work or disapoint.

They could be like oh Prometheus is set in same universe but not to be classed as direct prequel and just alternative story like how the Alien games have been....

That means they can go and do another movie franchise as Alien prequel.

What i am saying is by going a Alternative Realities route they can then push aside Promethues as not being true canon and then keep making other prequels... so its like oh that never worked as planned, well its not really direct canon so lets try again.

No thank you!

Yeah I'm kinda saying no to Sigourney in general, no disrespect to her. But then there are scores of ways to weave her ( ha ha little joke there ) into the movie, I would just hope its in service to a really great story and not her being shoehorned in to sell tickets. Time will tell.

Here’s a theory of how Ripley could be shoe horned into Prometheus. Looking at the aspect of Ripley as a clone, in resurrection there were various mutations of her which were numbered. The whole point of cloning her was to extract whatever she was carrying. The queen was the pay off as it could produce eggs. But maybe that might not be the whole story.

The potential for the creature was described as limitless, and endless and possibly infinite. Maybe that 8 does not signify the number eight, but rather infinity.

Suppose the number system for the other variants of Ripley actually designate a mutant characteristic. Logically each clone that was made from her would have carried something else. Could a Deacon be in there somewhere?

This now brings me back to Alien. Suppose the Ripley in Alien was also a clone. Or perhaps all the members of the crew had some altered DNA which could be sourced back to the Black Goo. This could mean that the crew of the Nostromo was sent out with a crew that was expected to interact with the Xeno or facehuggers for whatever reason, because they all carried altered DNA. All  the consequent films with Ripley have been obsessed with getting her impregnated then extracting the results.

So now going back to Prometheus, how about a Ripley that is the source of her clones. A Ripley that works for the company, and who has discovered things about the Goo that could give her immortality through cloning. Maybe a Ripley who would send the Nostromo out to get her clone impregnated.

Who knows maybe other members of the Nostromo are clones like Ripley. Maybe even Burke.

Is it possible that the colony of Hadley’s Hope were genetically modified in some way.

 Just a thought.

Member Djrees met the cast, he will be adding more pictures soon he said, here check his post out: Meeting Lance Henriksen