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30,000 year old evidence???

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Chauvet

MemberOvomorphJan-18-2014 12:11 PM

In the first movie we see the team investigating ancient cave art. They are trying to prove a theory that ancient astronauts came to earth and interacted with humanity in some manner, from seeding the planet to helping mankind grow and expand by teaching them many things.

The Chauvet cave art, which is 30,000 years old, seems to have revealed some very interesting hidden images. These images connect to our more recent past in several ways.

Firstly, there is the ancient Egyptian connection. There is a lot more to all this than what I am posting here, so I am posting a few examples. In this first image we see a set of hippo's with their mouths open and their tongues sticking out. All of these hippo's can be found in ancient Egypt, except for one.. The one in the lower left corner is from the 30,000 year old cave art of Chauvet

But there is more to this hippo, it is part of a bigger image that is also found on the tomb ceiling of Seti the first..

Elsewhere, there is an image that resembles the eye of Ra that seems to have a few very strange connections..

eye of ra

This 'eye' is also part of a face .. look at the grey shading and you will notice the forehead above the eyebrow, the temple region, ear and top of the cheek. Very clever art.

 

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Anunnaki50

MemberOvomorphJan-24-2014 12:32 AM

Dont worry Im not upset at anyone at all its just that most people have studied Greek myths before the oldest ones because schools dont have the resources and text books to discuss them into detail.

The Anunnaki were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, mighty men of high reno

HiveMinded

MemberOvomorphJan-24-2014 3:54 AM

We have a lot of details on the Sumerians and god kings, the royal bloodline ideas etc, as well as the ancient king list of Egypt. Others have replicated Zacharia's findings in his translation of the clay tablets, but it's viewed mainly as myth and legend. In order to make the stories on the tablets work and connect, Sitchin has to have a lot of the translations right. However, Alien astronuat theory is just a theory or a thesis. It could have some parts right, and some parts wrong. If you take history classes you'll learn a lot about them, but we still don't know everything about the Sumerians.  HIstory classes never start at the very beginning of mankind, but Sumerians form a part of recorded history. Culture and mankind started out long before that, there were farmers there around 9000 years ago before cities emerged in Ancient Sumer, we can tell from archaeological evidence how the city-states arose, why they believed the things they did, and worshipped the god-kings is still mysterious. You've gotta take prehistory classes to learn about what happened before Sumer, and then that gets into anthro/archaeo. Archaeologists don't only rely on the written word. The periods of time they cover stretch back to the very beginning of life as a single celled organism..It can get complicated, there are different ages, epochs etc We were already doing things with our early farming tools before the Sumerian kingdoms arose very suddenly...

There are different thoeries as to why this happened during the neolithic. Paleolithic and mesolithic had more basic stone tools, but during the neolithic rapid advancements in culture occur. Archaic homo sapien was not much different than us, and had stone tools 1.5 million years ago. These tools and technologies used during the stone ages never really changed in major ways until the neolithic. About 9000-10000 years ago the plough was iin use in Sumer, before city-states emerged. But it wouldn't be long before massive stone temples, gridwork and all the infrastructure that comes along with cities were able to built.  We know for sure people were communicating even before Cuneiform. People had a basic culture, but it almost changed over night in Sumer...The earliest stone tools come from 2.6 million years ago, Sumer suddenly brought about many changes in culture and technology, concentrated and focused it...Historians like to think Sumerians invented everything, but there were already ideas, and stories, things growing and developing long before being recorded. The earliest evidence of a hominin with a larynx is Homo Ergaster, who is contemporary with Homo Erectus. This means we may have been communicating verbally since Homo Ergaster's time in more sophisticated ways than many other species. Most organisms don't have the highly developed vocal chords we have, which enable us to speak.

The larynx is weird in that while in the womb the body goes through a stage where gills actually form on the developiong human. The gills quickly disappear as we grow and are an evolutionary throwback..The structure that is left of them on the inside of the throat makes a voyage downwards, and actually becomes your vocal chords...The human larynx/vocal box is unique. Chimpanzees can learn sign language, but apes communicate in grunts for the most part. Some can almost produce sounds, although apes don't have the sophisticated larynx (which used to be gills..) that we have. Ontogeny recapitualtes phylogeny. Means that while our cells grow and divide we sometimes exhibit evidence of the lifeforms we evolved from (us having gills at one point in our devlopment within the womb)....Some have said the Engineer in the movie had gills.

There are only a handful of people who can translate Cuneiform properly, it requires interpretaiton of symbols, as well as having the cipher, and even then there are differing interpretations over some things.  We know a lot about the sumerians, how their writing system developed mainly for bookkeeping, how the cities formed from the early farmers etc. Archaeologists have reconstructed their way of life from the evidence they left behind, but the problem is most historians still can't tranlate the finer details of Cuneiform. We know things about them from later writings, and can learn a lot from bare minimum translations, but there's still work to be done looking for any possible trace of the preists earlier form of symbol languages..Some of these symbolic languages are related in some ways to what would later become runes, and forms of sacred geometry. There's an art to Cuneiform.

Concepts outside of what's actually written in the Clay tablets MUST be brought in to even form a story... This all connects to why they ask David what he sees in the strange patterns and images during the Happy Birthday viral..He's been made emotional, in an attempt to allow him to be intuitive, and to recognize symbolic patterns, therefore hopefully being able to decipher the pictograms. Ridley is a very visual artist, uses Ridley grams to plan things, and might actually have the big picture all planned out in his head already...Whereas Lindelof and his words fail to express it fully...Things like the mural are visual puzzles intended to help solve Prometheus.

Each culture kind of played a version of the telephone game. The stories passed from culture to culture. However Greek and Sumerian myths are the ones that can still be directly compared. Weyland's mother  was a professor of comparative mythology at Oxford and looks for similarities and differences between the myths..Some of this undoubtedly rubbed off on Weyland, he was more inclined to believe Shaw, he knew some myths are talking about the exact same things. Names are switched around and the fish men idea comes from even further back than Sumer in Africa's oral traditions. The mermaid/fishman concept predates some of the serpent ideas. Many of these ideas entered our cultures even before the Sumerians recorded their perpsective on things, and can be seen in earlier forms expressed in cave art all across Africa...Before the Sumerians created an official language using symbols there seems to have been ways of communicating through art. It's this type of symbolic, cross-comparative thinking that i think is key with Prometheus. You have to recognize certain patterns to understand things about the alien lifecycle etc, start taking guesses at interpreting the mural based on what we know to fill in gaps.

HiveMinded

MemberOvomorphJan-24-2014 5:30 AM

the movie Prometheus has connections to many ancient cultures/beliefs, and Egyptian influences can also be seen, zombie fifield, death/rebirth themes etc. Basically I think the Engineers are connected to every one of the myths, interacted with many cultures... Priest/scientist classes are the ones who held all the real power in the past... held all the knowledge about movements of the stars etc, and preserved that knowledge, it's the king's advisers that are often the problem.  These preist classes and some of the mystery cults in Greece preserved some of the earlier teachings in weird ways, and gave birth to drama...They actually changed some of the older stories to serve their needs, with some of the mystery cults like those of Dionysos/Bacchus. The priest/scientist class used to be the same. Actors actually got their start in ancient greece, with the dramatic way in which they presented the older mysteries, but the core of what was being transmitted stayed intact.

Art imitates life, and life imitates art, Cuneiform is more like a work of art than a language, because it uses pictograms, tiny pictures and symbols, some of which can be interpreted multiple ways... Same with Prometheus. Prometheus can be read many ways, it's ambiguous...The Alien creature looks like both a female and a male at times, "you really think that's a she"? It's both sexes. It's necessary to cross-analyze with Greek and east Indian myths to figure out the full story..However Greek myth, like Prometheus, is presented in a dramatic way. The true meanings are hidden beneath the surface. Things are mixed together and it's presented as a lie that tells the truth, the mystery schools would act out parts of the myths...David has a forked tongue...He could make a good politician or an actor/liar/artist.. He uses Orwellian double-speak or politician-like double speak to remain ambiguous. Politicians use lies to cover up the truth, while artists use lies to tell the truth.

"Oh let the sun beat down upon my face, stars to fill my dream
I am a traveler of both time and space, to be where I have been
To sit with elders of the gentle race, this world has seldom seen
They talk of days for which they sit and wait and all will be revealed.

Talk and song from tongues of lilting grace, whose sounds caress my ear
But not a word I heard could I relate, the story was quite clear
Oh, oh."

Cerulean Blue

MemberFacehuggerJan-24-2014 3:00 PM

@HiveMinded:

Physical Graffiti is awesome!

 

Anunnaki50

MemberOvomorphJan-24-2014 5:54 PM

@ Hiveminded-

Hey have you heard of the Dogon story of Namo who was the preverbial fishman? Its states that he did come from the stars and arrived with alot of fire and smoke and then made man and taught us many things except his master Ama (I believe its Enlil from Sumerian myth) did not approve of his creation and destroyed him, scattering himself throughout the world. I just dont know how exactly to interpret this metaphor after his destruction.

The Anunnaki were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, mighty men of high reno

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