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[img]http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2805/10779147655_c997a84e41_c.jpg[/img] The image above is one of the concept designs of the egg silo, for what was supposed to be THE Alien prequel, before Lindelof was hired and did a re-write. If Ridley did decide to do a film about the SJ from ALIEN and the cargo of eggs, would he use parts of Spaihts' original screenplay and the initial design concepts, or would that conflict with the PROMETHEUS story? I'm interested to read your opinion/s...

The poster was good though!

 

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'Ridley has also explained off film what happened and that indeed the Space Jockey/Derelict and Engineers/Juggernaught are all related to each other.' That doesn't count. So we know what happened, only thing we could add is show the Derelict being loaded with its Cargo or show how it got onto the Derelict. Questions: Did one of the SJ set the facehugger loose, was he betrayed by his own kind? Didn't they have an antidote or med-pod? Why didn't he set course to his home-planet and went to hypersleep so they could rescue him? Where was he heading? How come he's fused with the chair? What did the thing look like that bursted out of him? Did he or didn't he know he was about to get chestbursted? I ask this because he sent out an SOS/warning. etc.
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Was he a bounty hunter/ mercenary/ scientist/ rogue? How come he couldn't overpower a tiny facehugger? Did he commit suicide? You see, we're in the f*cking dark on all this..
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Well thats where some Ambiguity comes in.... I think we need to be given more clues to how the Eggs came about for sure. And also maybe shown a larger race of Engineers or other creation by them that is 12-15ft tall. Just knowing these and showing us more, would give us enough to fill the gaps in from Alien. We can be pretty sure he was infected by a traditional Face Huger and thus would have given birth to a Xeno but a larger one... Yes on screen we have not been shown, only what Ridley has said so if we ignore Ridley and go by what we are shown then yes, we do not know for sure if the Eggs was on the Ship, if they evolved from something or they was laid by what ever came out of the Engineer. I dont want answers in next two movies well not spoon fed...,. I would like a Alien 5 to give us more, you know say a movie called Alien Origins.... or Alien Alpha! Use this to explain the history of the Xeno and then how the Engineers are connected.

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@BigDave; I agree with what you said regarding not actually showing it but instead giving us clues. I think that actually filming his story would cheapen his story and make us think, 'OH..That's what happened to him and THAT'S how the facehuggers came to be, but now I've been SHOWN what happened, I've realised that I would have much preferred it if I was just given clues or read about it rather than actually visualised it.' Do you know what I mean? What makes it such a great mystery is the fact that we haven't SEEN it! However, I still really wanna know!!! I wanna be given clear clues as to what happened. OR, Ridley should work with a good author and write a story about him. :)

The poster was good though!

 

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:( :D :)

The poster was good though!

 

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NICE 1! Thanx for the expression icons @Chris! EDIT: The icons have disappeared now..Damn it. Now, back to topic please...

The poster was good though!

 

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Well i did think that at the end of Prometheus they could have shown us a flash back scene of the Space Jockey just to please the fanboys and put it to bed. But then looking at that if we had this at the end of the movie we have to ask why show a flash back from the past at the end of the movie, and if it was during the movie before the Engineer Pilot seat scene then again it would kind of take the center stage off the Engineer/Pilot Chair scene and if at the end likewise the Deacon scene. We could at some point be shown the Derelict scene as a flash back at some point in the franchise... a lot could depend if the Engineers or Elders etc on Paradise knew about the Space Jockey Mission and LV 223 and be that we see interaction from a Engineer/Elder or they have documented the incident on Paradise and David Translates it. Or he could when he discovers some Engineer/Elder temples or craft etc on Paradise he could activate a log and then translate it to Shaw and indicate that the Home World had a message sent to them from LV 223 some 2200 years ago where they stated that another Cargo Vessel had become Compromised during its mission, the Organism is proving to dangerous a Weapon and they was given orders to commence going back to the drawing board and attempt to figure a way to safer deploy and re-weaponize the Bio Weapon. David coming across some message log like this and translating it for Shaw would give us clues that these Engineers was working on developing a newer improved safer Bio Weapon after a number of failures with a previous one... or something similar. A scene like this would give us more clues to what went down on LV 426. And we do not need to be spoon fed or shown a scene. But i would like to see a scene as flash backs of some taller Engineer Space Jockeys maybe interacting with some Bio Weapon connection to the Xeno...

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only a TOTAL REBOOT of Prometheus will satisfy 'this' viewer ... a direct PREQUEL that explains the weird and surreal world of the elephantine SJ and his eggy cargo, and why he's soft-landed on LV423. No xeno Queen, no hive shrieking, just a lone acid-blooded seductor like the original. I wanna see how Xeno and SJ works, maybe they're immune and mankind was deposited on Earth. Maybe the Adam/Eve moment happened on Earth BECAUSE LV423 happened. Maybe... you know? Just not what Lindelof camped up with. Prometheus, while good in its own Stargate/VonDanekan-derivative fashion, was okay but IT WASN'T AN ALIEN PREQUEL (as Scott promised early on).
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I feel your frustration @Custodian! I do honestly! I think you, like myself, MISS the otherworldly, alien surrealism and untouchability that ALIEN gave us. That feeling of us coming across something real but a complete enigma that could NEVER be explained in a conventional way. A scary look at what a distant, ancient alien might look like if we actually came across it in real life. Therefore, SHOWING his story, on FILM, would lessen his story IMO. His (the SJ's) story should NEVER be produced by a bunch of cowboys like FOX!!! NEVER! We need to know, yes! But not on the big screen by some big profit, money making film company. I want to read about him in novel format, therefore I can use my imagination to visualise it, which, will be more powerful! :)

The poster was good though!

 

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"Prometheus, while good in its own Stargate/VonDanekan-derivative fashion, was okay but IT WASN'T AN ALIEN PREQUEL (as Scott promised early on)" Well that was the plan, with Spaights draft, this one seems to indicate or hint that the SJ was the Sleeper Engineer who crashed on LV 426 and gave birth to the Ultramorph that hunted down Shaw but she saw it off with a saw.... The idea behind this movie was to show us that the SJ was a Engineer and they had created life on Earth but they also used to experiment and breed/store various variants of the Xeno Life Form. Had this movie gone ahead it would have linked with Alien, but would have been more of a Alien Resurrection type movie. And there would have been some plot holes as far as Alien goes.... and especially Aliens and by that i mean that after Spaights draft there would have been plenty of clues and stuff left over on LV 426 for the company to find and so why did they seem so in the dark in Alien and Aliens. Nope Ridley changed with Lindeloff and Fox the Xeno elements to concentrate more on the mystery of the Engineer/Space Jockey. We have seen the Xeno done to death, not only on film but in games etc, yes they could shown us variations of Xenos like Spaights draft suggested there are 8 varieties of Organism. But would they be vastly different? Where as apart from a few comics we did not know about the Space Jockey and Ridley and co with Spaights idea gave us the idea that they are Humanoid and they created mankind... This is a big plot choice and one that has a fantastic potential.

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Good god has everyone vanished? There's tumbleweeds rolling past my screen. @BigDave; Prometheus was a story about the SJ's kind, the engineers and that's great! But I want to know HIS (the SJ's) story! I think that that's one of the main reasons a lot of ALIEN fans were disappointed with Prometheus. :)

The poster was good though!

 

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The Prometheus art book also states that Ridley used Zecharia Sitchins 12 Planet idea too. I think it was a happy coincidence that the giant beings from Sumerian stories go with the Space Jockey storyline in Prometheus. The cuneiform alien writing further seals that idea. The irony of Stargate is that its borrowed from Z. Sitchins own theories and the Egyptian myths were the main theme of the movie instead.

The Anunnaki were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, mighty men of high reno

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Oh I get what your trying to say, its THE SJ in the chair. Like his own origins and how he got there and why he died in such a way.

The Anunnaki were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, mighty men of high reno

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Anunnaki- yep. You're not going to like this, but I maintain it was part of an intergalactic double cross perpetrated by the Engineers upon their masters... The Space Jockeys. D:
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I know a lot of people would have liked to had seen that SJ story but by that what kind of story would that be? If it was explored, we would just find out the SJ was like the Engineers a Humanoid in a Space Suit but they would have to maybe explain the height difference and taking into account he grew out of his chair, which could happen when the SJ suits die... they would still need to explain some difference as surely when he was living he would still had to have been 12ft. So we would see some Humanoid, like a Engineer maybe see him given orders, find out where he set off from and where he was going too and maybe we see how the Eggs got loaded onto the Derelict. Then we see him suit up in a Pilot Chair sequence. Then we are shown the exact moment of when and how he got infected with a Face Huger, and then after that we would see him panic and know he is infected and then see him have to set a course to a baron world to Quarantine the Deadly Cargo and send a SOS to Warn his other kind that the Cargo is compromised. We then see him head to LV 426 and i recon as he enters the moons atmosphere he then gets the convulsions as he is about to be Chest Busted now this would occur either during the landing or just as he is about to set down the Derelict. But would this be worth a whole movie? and Ridley has said what happened and its pretty much as above, and even in Alien we had enough clues to suggest the above. Thats why i dont think we would see the SJ and Derelict from Alien before its ill fated mission.... Ridley could show us who the Space Jockeys are which he has done, but i feel he would have to show us that some Engineers or other Humanoid creations are similar but taller i.e 12-15ft They could show us how they came into contact with the Eggs.... i.e 1) Was they created from scratch? 2) Was they created from the Goo and Urns? 3) Was they the result of experiments on other Organism? 4) Was they found on another World and used or experimented on? 5) Or is there some Being/Creature/Biological Machine that made them? I think one of those five has to be the explanation and we will find out, and if so it may be a bit vague and not spoon fed.

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@BigDave; The most frustrating thing about all this is the fact that, even if all the mysteries from Prometheus are addressed in the sequel, my feeling is that we will all still be on this site in 10 years time, debating and pondering over the SJ and cargo of eggs from ALIEN. I'm just really sceptical that Ridley will address it.

The poster was good though!

 

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