Best Portrayal of the Alien

The orignial design made by the late H.R.Giger was the best, the (2004) AVP design would be what I consider the second best followed by the ALIENS design as third best portrayal.

The Only true Xenomorphs are from ALIEN (1979),  ALIENS (1986), and ALIEN 3 (1993).

Also Loved the Deacon and its relative as closley related Xenomorphoids.

The Predalien was acceptable.

Alien Ressurection Xenos were hybrids mutant ofspring which were also acceptable but the AVP xenos were retaded some-how Alien ressurection-esque false Xenomorphs.

I hated the AVP Xenomorphs including exspecially Grid (who was a mary sue xenomorph).

The original Giger Alien for me. Reminds me of a sort of alien Nosfaratu! Scary as f**k!

avp jus did not have the horror factor to it, the films jus werent taken seriously enough when considering the previous movies that made them what they are, the originals were what made that magic, why not stick to that formula? it was realistic and scary and didnt need a modern special fx makeover

The original Alien design is perfect. All they need to do i slightly articulate the fingers a litle more and CGI the tail. I always thought the fingers could split into two when required. Six fingers which need to function better. These actually link the face hugger to he adult Alien, maybe slightly longer, Perfection. Having said that I did love the look of the Dog/Ox Xeno in A3. This was ripped off by Gigers fabulous original design. Thats why it worked. Just stick with Giger's dark world and all will be great. Looks like Neil is doing this, looking at his previz images so far.

Also, to get around the fact that later xeno's seem to have evoled with the extra elongared dog like Raptor legs. If they simply elongated the original feet the original looking Alien could choose to stand upright and flat footed or up on point when moving fast. This would create a link with the incorrect leg structure of the later films.

And of course the original head design.

Hands down, the Xenomorph from the original 1979 'Alien'.  As soon as they removed the semi-transparent dome where you can vaguely make out the eye sockets of a human-like skull underneath and made it's movements like a bug instead of the smooth, fluid-like (almost sensual) movements from the original Giger interpretation, they stripped away a large layer of the fear the first instilled in me.

First time post to the Alien 5 forum...

I know i am going to come under a lot of fire for this...

But Alien 1979 the Alien was hardly seen and movie was dark, and to me it did look a bit like a Man in a Suit but by no means do i think it was poor, for 1979 it was good and the close up prop work was fantastic.

I actually think both versions have their place and purpose in the franchise.

I do prefer the look of the Original Aliens head however, and so yes a modern look based on the Smooth Head is the one i favor.

Something like above...

I also dont think the Xeno from Aliens was mindless they was acting as far as a purpose within its Hive Colony and they actually showed a lot of intelligence and out thinking the Humans on LV 426 on more than one occation.

If anything was a mindless killer it was the Original Alien, all it did was pick people off and looked like it just killed them, it performed no purpose but to kill (end of story)...  In Aliens they protected the Queen, and Eggs and Captured Hosts to all allow for the procreation of its kind... They acted like more Intelligent Ants/Bees/Termites where as the Alien in 1979 movie was just  a Space Great White Shark...

However.... the DC of Alien showed us a purpose to this Organism which was to procreate its own kind... and indeed showed the Organism did not kill the crew, well it did but it used two of them as Hosts for Procreation....  Why not use all the crew?  Why just two?

This is where i always had the theory that the Alien Drones purpose was to go out and use Genetic Material of One Organism to allow for the creation of a Egg that would host a Queen and also the capture of another Host to play Host for the Queen Face Huger or what ever came out of the Egg that Brett was being changed into.

Once a Queen is born, it can then go on and produce Eggs..

And so thus the Xeno Eggs will produce a Organism based on the needs for procreation of its own kind...  Pretty Much how Ants/Bees and Termites can manipulate Eggs to produce a variety of types of its own species depending upon the need of the Hive.

Alien Resurection Xenos i also liked as they was kind of a mixture of elements from every Adult Organism within the Franchise

This sculpture of the Original Giger Alien.. is something that would be nice to see on screen..

Ofcourse there is another that Giger did, he had two Original Aliens before a 3rd was done that was used as basis for our Alien.. likewise Giger designed two more Face Hugers too.

For those who never liked the AVP movies as far as being a Cash Cow Pop Corn fest... i actually think that Alien 5 will give us pretty much the same... Alien 5 i think would be very similar to Alien Resurection as far as Xeno Scenes...   basically going to give us a movie where again Xenos are unleashed after being kept and experimented on in a Company Outpost like they was on the Space Station.

Alien Resurection showed us Genetic Experiments on Alien DNA that led to the many failed Clones of Ripley and i think similar Genetic Experiments will happen to produce a few different Xenomorphs.

I really liked the first Alien. It was different from the aliens we were seeing in movies or shows or books (or whatever else) as it was deadly, scary...effective. The only ones I didn't like, actually, were the Runners and the Queen.

I really hope Alien 5 will feel more like the first movie. It would make the year it comes out the best year ever for movies. ;)

Welcome to the forums! I also agree, I'm hoping Blomkamp takes the Alien back to its roots, Cameron's film was fun and action-packed, but that style for the Alien has been done to death. We need a genuinely scary Alien movie again.

nice Thread ........

Here's some designs that I like that give me the visual feeling of Gigers Alien design:

Oh ay this one too:

This is my favorite Alien Portrait:

And this is for fun:

v1. I was elated when I saw them go with it for Alien Isolation. They really worked hard to please us fans with that one. Giger's original was the first realistic looking movie monster I'd ever seen. It traumatized me as a kid and made me get a bio degree. :)

HR Gigers Concept was the best version.... and they did a Good job of putting it to screen in Alien but we have to remember we did not see it fully in clear shot in Alien because on close inspection the costume had its flaws....

But with Modern Technology as far as real Prop and Costume Design i think they could do the Classic Xenomorph look justice...

Everyone has a Beef with the Aliens and AVP versions, but they are better done than the Alien 1979 costume, people wont like to admit that however....   The 1979 look however did have a more sleek style more elegant to it as far as the idea and concept... but there was not a massive change apart from the Aliens and AVP Xeno where darker in colour, rather than a grey somewhat metalic look of the Classic.

The biggest difference that may disapoint is the head carapace, but they did try the Original style for Aliens, they just found it was not as hard wearing for the number of Xenos they had to be used and the nature of the scenes.... and so the Classic Style was too fragile... and thats why they went for the different style.

Nostromo9468: Thanks, interesting topic. My favorite is Giger's alien, it showed some intelligence in Alien (1979) but then it seemed to turn into some bug which you could kill almost without any problem and that isn't as interesting.

This is something that Divides Fans as far as the Xenomorph Goes..... some regard the Original as being something Special... clever and near unstopable...

But its something thats a bit hard to judge....  not if we look at a few points.

Small Group Space Truckers  VS Larger Group Trained Marines.

No Weapons VS Best Weapons that Mankind had availble.

Closed Enviroment that suited the Organism VS More Open Enviroment.

The Xenomorph could be Hurt... they managed to cut the Face Hugger in Alien, and it produced Acid Blood.... the crew could not risk hurting the Organism for risk of wounding it could lead to more Acid Blood and Compremising the Ship.

We can never say how hard the Xeno would have been to kill in Alien because it was never tested as far as finding a open Space it could not hide in, and then being targeted by Weapons Fire from Traineed Firearms experts.  But i will add the Xenos did seem to die a bit to easy in Aliens but i am sure a Shot Gun at Short Range would cause serious damage to the Xeno...   Prometheus i felt tried to go back to making the Monsters more tough, with Fifield in which i felt he was made to be too tough..  But the Hamerpedes where easy to wound.

In Alien the crew were not trained or prepared to deal with the situation and the Nostramo was a confined space and dark and it suited a Alien Creature that could movie fast, climb walls and was dark and elegant that it could hide away.

A lot of people have the Xeno in Aliens as being Dumb.... well in Alien all the creature did was survive and hunt down a unarmed and unarmed crew on a ship that served as enviroment that suited a stealthy hunter.    But all this Creature did was hunt the crew down one by one.  It did show signs of Inteligence however...

But so did the Xeno in Aliens.. they cut the power, they avoided the sentry guns, baracades by using the gaps in the ceilings.. and so i think they outsmarted the Marines more than the Xeno outsmarted Ripley and Co in Alien.

We also have to look at the Tactics....  If we take a Lone Special Forces Op behind enemy lines, they would be more cautious and keep to the shadows..... 

As opposed to being part of a Marine Platoon where you would be more willing to take risks and be less stealthy.

If we had a Zombie Outbreak.... and you was stuck in a department store, the only weapons was baseball bats, large knifes, chainsaws etc....  If there was just 3 of you and 30 Zombies, you would be more stealthy and cautious and have to pick them off one by one and use the element of suprise and hide away to take care of them....

Now if there was a group of 30 of you and say 100 Zombies you would be less cautious, and would attack in groups with less fear....

I think this is how we need to look at the different aproach of the Xeno in Alien and Aliens... We also need to consider the purpose....

Alien we just saw a creature that spawned from a Egg, then via 3 Stages of Life Cycle that then went around killing the Crew..... Aliens we was shown a Hive Mentality, where the greater good of the Hive was important and these Creatures had to preserve and protect the Hive....  they went out and captured Human Hosts to Procreate its own kind.

Now the Alien DC showed a different take with the Xeno, which showed it did not quite mindlessly kill but it used two of the Crew to Procreate its own species.... we have to ask why not do the same with Parker and Lambert.... but i have a theory on why not.. that i have covered before and i may make a Topic to discus the Xenomorph Organism in full detail with only one missing peice of the Puzzle and that is being how they came to be...   This is a puzzle we have clues but no clear answer...... But this is the same with Mankind... we dont have No 100% FACT way that says how Mankind came to be...

I will add my theory explains why the Xeno did not need no other Hosts... and that is that it only need Two as the result would lead to a Queen... and it explains why the Xenos are different and have different roles.... the Alien one was simply to go and create a Queen.