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The Xenos were made ​​in the image and likeness of someone or someth

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I was just thinking about the fact that the Engineers made mankind in his image and likeness, then maybe the xenomorphs / Deacons were created in the image and likeness of another creature. So, in that case, the creature disintegrated, after contact with the primordial black goo, then the DNA is ready to create something based on the original lifeform.
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Oooh, Time Travel (Lindelof love him some Time Travel) I hope that's 'not' gonna sully whatever Prometheus becomes. However; best use of Time Travel i) Superman, of course and ii) Flight of the Navigator. :)
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Weyland obviously knew about xenos in the Alien series as evidenced by his command to intercept the alien lifeform using the Nostromo etc. but I believe it is in the Prometheus series of movies that we learn how he learned what he knew in the first place and no time travel necessary. Its just that simple. I wouldn't try to overcomplicate it. There is plenty of material that is already complicated enough as it is without adding additional complications to it.
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Weyland must have found some ancient artifact , maybe to come in contact with the engineers, I'd prefer no Time-travel either....it needs to be kept simple, on the other hand the story might become too mystical without the needed scientific interference.
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The analogy is for the Devil, who was turned into a serpent. The xeno's are like his attempts to be like God, who created us in His own image, only the Devil wishes to make ultimate perversions of that creation.
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I think the Engineers are like David - they are constructs and we may be made in their image, though the creator likely doesn't have an image. The creator just is and just does. As for xenos, they are anthropomorphic, right? I mean a fachugger wouldn't be any good on a whale - it needs a humanoid face to work on. So I see them as more tied to the Engineer/human form, for whatever reason. That does not mean the creator can't create other things, other templates like the Engineers.
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Well thats the Beauty and the Beast with Prometheus.... There is so so many clues and counter clues that dont add up to other clues and it all means there is no clear truth to anything its all open to interpretation. That means almost anything is a possibility.... The beast being that maybe Fox and Weyland have to in future explore some of these mystreys but then they are going to have to do it carefully and have to pick which direction they choose to explore and explain, and be careful that what ever route they take does not get contradicted by what clues we have and also in Alien Franchise.

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[b]AS FAR AS WEYLAND[/b].... Well i dont think they have any real clue about the goings on at the time of Prometheus, i dont think they have a clue what the Xeno is both before and maybe after Prometheus (but this could changed depending on how Part 2 and 3 pan out). I feel that as Weyland Industries in their exploration of new worlds and colonies etc, may have detected a signal from the same system or close by system that the Star Maps pointed to. I would assume maybe they do not quite know what the signal is, or that its some kind of sos or warning who knows.. i just dont think they would have decoded it. So they could be curious and maybe want to go and explore the system but maybe reluctant especially if they do think its a warning, but then when Shaw and Holloway find the so many consistencies between all the ancient cultures showing giant beings pointing to the same or near by star system. I am sure Weyland then puts two and two together and figures that some kind of signal from that area of the Galaxy, in coinsidence with the Star Map that could show where our potential creators may have come from. Was enough for Weyland to fund a expedition to go and find out who these beings are and if indeed they are on that area shown by the Star Maps. His aim, was if he found those who created us, then they could maybe give him eternal or longer life. I am pretty sure he would have had David monitor the signal from LV 426 but ultimately first stop would be indeed to go to LV 223 and see what they can discover there first. I do agree that after Prometheus i am sure Weyland suits or rival company Yutani would indeed wonder what became of Prometheus and i am sure at some point they would want to send out a recovery expedition, and sure with regards to Weyland Industries surely if Weyland knew about the Signal on LV 426 then some members of the board back home would also be aware. And thus when they send out a expedition to find out what became of Prometheus they would surely pick up Shaws Message. And if they by then also had some idea the LV 426 was a warning, then that would be enough for Weyland to not that there was some event that is of great threat that wiped out Prometheus crew and then maybe they would have enough clues to point to something that could potentially be used as a Bio Weapon. But the timeline between end of Prometheus and Alien is a lot as far as any possible gaps and exploration and information gathering regarding the events of LV 223 and LV 426 signals.

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As far as the Topic goes.... I just dont know, i do not by or like the Idea that the Xeno/Deacon or similar was God or created the Engineers.. But we are left the biggest puzzle as always with Lindeloffs writing and thats stuff makes no sense because it contradicts itself. Ridley has indicated that the Xeno Eggs where around long before Prometheus, and the Mural seems more like to show that they was known to the Engineers before the fall of LV 223 some 2000 years ago....... But then Lindeloff had said that the idea was to lend to that the Xenomorph was connected to the Human race Genetically.... Could that mean they was created by needing Humans or from Human DNA? That does not have to mean the Xeno occurs after Prometheus, as it could just be that thousands of years ago the Engineers used Humans in experiments that was related to the creation of the Xeno.... The Xeno Mural is key, does the Deacon represent a portrayal of something held in high esteem and worshiped (now i dont mean God, as Hindus worship Elephant God, but also Cows now they dont think Cows are God). Or is it some kind of depiction of a Prophecy to be foretold.... my problem with this is that the Mural depicts to me engineers with what look like Face Huggers on them or something more closely related to them than Shaws Baby.... Especially when you look at Gigers Orginal Mural which depicts the same fate and the two varients show one Engineers looking like wearing suits with a trunk like breathing apparatus and the other more like the Prometheus Mural Engineers/Humaniods. But then do we not look at the Giger Original and have to throw out everything that was not part of Prometheus including Dan O'Bannons ideas and Spaights Script even Lindeloffs Drafts? Does the Xeno/Deacon symbolize something to Worship as a God or something highly respected, does it imply a significance in some kind of Sacrifice? Maybe the Engineers as we see can not reproduce maybe they somehow evolved or was created that way so they age slow and cant reproduce, maybe by cloning but then all that does is make a clone that itself cant reproduce. Maybe they (as in Dan O'Bannons) came across something that infected one of their kind, and became the First Chest Buster, after it impregnated him and from this they gained knowledge of reproduction and some how via this they was able to devise a way to create life some other way.... i.e The Goo. Maybe they lost a way to create the Deacon, and they ultimately tried to recreate it but failed, and all they could create or find was Face Huggers that would not create another Deacon. Maybe ultimately the only way to the Deacon was that some how a Female Human had to enter the equation and after many years and failed attempts eventually due to a set of events from the Goo to Holloway to Shaws baby finally created something that could create the Deacon. But then we have the movie quotes that differ with that, such as Janek who says the outpost was a WMD Facility they created something to use as a Bio Weapon and it got lose a outbreak that infected them. This backs up Shaws view of a outbreak. But then we got Davids sometimes to create on must destroy which simply implies the Engineers was going to use the stuff to reset life on Earth to something new. Again so many possibilities. Again the movie quotes i feel are aimed at clues... so such as when they mention the Head Stature as God, maybe again this shows that it either is God to the Engineers or a sign that the Engineers are God to creation. And Shaw etc seem to indicate the Fresco as important and how Lindeloff says its similar to the Sistine Chapel and Creation of Adam Fresco..... If there is a connection of sorts then it shows in Prometheus Mural that was not that well shown in the movie, that a Engineer replaces God, and a Life form that has some resemblance to Bio-Mech Look of the Xeno and Space Jockey suits yet different has some significance. Which if we go that route, must imply maybe that the Deacon/Xeno Sacrifice is what gives the Engineers Life... just as Christs is to give Mankind Eternal Life provided we worship him. He died for our sins so that we can be saved for a Eternal Life rather than nothingness. So by that does it imply the Deacon/Xeno was Sacrificed to somehow prolong or allow the Engineers to procreate, maybe implying without this life form the Engineers can not create? How knows...

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There is a picture of an engineer holding his hand on a xeno's head, as though the xeno is a pet or subject. Even a creature who came to the engineer for acceptance and love.
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Yes that is the Fresco i am on about.... Here it is... [img]http://tubgoat.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/12-06-13-prometheus-muralengineer1.jpg[/img] Well its not quite the God and Adam Fresco, but it can be interpreted as such. But then it can also be interpreted some other way, and while this is not a Xeno, it does have similar look to one, but to me it also has just as much if not more of a look of the Space Jockey Suits as it does a Xenomorph. Well it looks kind of like a mix of Xeno DNA and Engineer Suit DNA. Maybe the image does give us some connection between the Xeno and Engineers, is this something they created from Xeno DNA? Could it be what they aimed to create from Xeno DNA in the Urns if they was dropped on Earth? Thus is this what Fifield may have changed to? We just dont know for sure but there is some connection between this creature the Engineers and the Xeno and their Technology for sure.

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Thanks for putting that up. Now that I see it closely, I think that creature could be the same as horse like ones drawn in the cave painting from Scotland. It would seem odd, but this got me thinking maybe they were used as mounts, like horses by the engineers.

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