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joeyjoe

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Here is a quote from ridley scott that i pulled from a screen rant interview. Remarkably, Scott addresses the age (roughly) of the derelict craft on LV 426. Maybe some of you have read this, but given the amount of discussion we've engaged in regarding the age of the derelict on lv 426, id say im not the only one who missed this little tidbit. Below is the quote as it appears in the screen rant interview. (http://screenrant.com/interview-ridley-scott-prometheus-rothc-177916/) "For all intents and purposes this is very loosely a prequel, very. The very simple question was ‘Who the hell was in that ship? Who is sitting in that seat?’ and ‘Why that cargo?’ and ‘Where was he going?’ no one asked the question, so I thought ‘Duh.’ It’s a ‘duh,’ isn’t it? And then you say ‘But how did that ship evolve in the first Alien?’ Then I would say ‘Actually he’s one of the group that had gone off and his cargo had gotten out of control,’ because he was heading somewhere else and it got out of control and actually he had died in the process and that would be the story there. That ship happened to be a brother to the ship that you see that comes out of the ground at the end. They are roughly of the same period give or take a couple hundred years, right?" (ridley scott) So the derelict is not millions upon millions of years old (i had kind of hoped that it was)?!?! Also, we will not be seeing the derelict crash land on LV 426 in any of the sequels (thank goodness!). Although some room for interpretation still exists (scott's comments are somewhat loose), i took the above quote to mean that the juggernaut that crash landed on LV 426 took off from LV 223 (headed somewhere other than earth) around the same time that things went to hell in the facility on LV 223. As im typing, im realizing that there may be several ways to read Scotts statement. I dont have the time to continue with this right now so ill come back later and post. Having said that, i still think this little tidbit of info is worth discussing. Thoughts?

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August 24, 2012

Yeah Snorky, i may have been mistaken and the quote i saw may had been the couple of hundred years. But i think he said prior not sure. But Ridley also said in other interviews the Derelict had been then before the outbreak but dont quote me on that. I cant remember where i read those things as it was a while ago, but if we only go by what your interpretation of the quote you put then yes 150-300 years prior or after the downfall of LV 223 cant be ruled out. I am sure he also said that it was leaving LV 223? I would assume that maybe it all hints to that they was shipping the Xenos from LV 223 to some other place. But due to a outbreak in Cargo Hold it only got as far as LV 426. He did say the distance it got was not far. (which in inter stellar terms does not mean same system). Ridley also hinted that the Space Jockey before working on Prometheus was Benevolent and i think he also suggested but not sure which words he used that he was performing a heroic act. Which to me suggests his mission was a one way trip to Quarantine the Cargo. I think they was trying to re-engineer the Xeno Organism, and they either kept a few at LV 223 to test and shipped the rest to Quarantine. Or that after the fall of LV 223. One Engineer decided to then leave with the remainder of the Xeno Eggs while another went into Cryo Sleep...... Who knows hopefully we will get answers in Prometheus 3. your right

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August 24, 2012

oduodu, I was really just opened for anything; I dont say I firmly oppose seeing a footage on what happened to our old sj. I just mean that I was happy that prometheus didnt shove that down our throat, instead it went ambiguous and still gave answers. I agree with you it could be cool, but then maybe some hint of it instead of a direct link. As long as Ridley is at the helm of it, we're safe anyway. After that someone will fuck it up down the line lol.

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August 24, 2012

Spacejock I feel bad for posting that now. Sorry. You don't need to explain yourself to me. What really messes me up about all of this is that a thread was started to explore all the mysteries and no one really seems to be interested. I thought people would fall over their feet to participate and to my utter surprise I realised: THAT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT THE CASE AS TO THE COMPLETE LACK OF INTEREST SHOWN. I then realised that this has been attempted before and people reacted the same way. I have however learned more about the alien universe than ever before because of it. But I won't take it outside that thread again. Live long and prosper !!

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August 25, 2012

indeed. im a bit surprised that more people arent interested in the this discussion. I thought this was going to be new info (oops). Although there are still uncertainties (ridley isnt terribly clear in the interview), we at least know now that, at the time of said interview, ridley does NOT view the original juggernaut crash (derelict on lv 426) as millions upon millions of years old. thats big right there. At the very least, we know that the juggernaut found on LV 426 and the juggernaut found on LV 223 are from the same general era (meaning that the events that make each ship relevant to us as fans take place within several hundred years of one another). I personally hope that the derelict that went down on LV 426 went down prior to or because of the "outbreak" on LV 223. I wouldnt be too happy with seeing the derelict crash land on LV 426. I like the idea that juggernaut number 1 (ultimately found on LV 426) was heading away from the outbreak on LV 223 (for whatever reason...there could be several) with eggs in his cargo hold (because the engineers were experimenting with xenomorph bio/genetic material and incorporating the fruits of such experiments into the ampules) when one of the eggs flowered and a facehugger got on him (and somehow penetrated the helmet).

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November 10, 2012

Joeyjoe- Nice, man! I'm reading this thread now, and it's nice to have confirmation. @MVMNT- if he was "part of the group" but then he "headed somewhere else" that sure sounds like he would have departed from the same place. Also, sharing the same fate as his 'brothers' (becoming infected/impregnated) definitely makes it seem like he was part of the same outbreak on LV223.

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November 10, 2012

thanks. i thought it was interesting info. At this point, i think its clear that the "derelict" juggernaut that went down on LV 426 came from LV 223. An engineer managed to get out of the facility on LV 223 (albeit infected) and was forced down onto LV 426 when he went into labor...so to speak. SO...both juggernauts are from the same general timeframe and the crashed juggernaut on LV 426 was already sitting there on LV 426 by the time the crew of the prometheus put down on LV 223 (derelict had been sitting on LV 426 for approximately 2000 years by the time the crew of prometheus got to LV 223). This is the whole reason why ridley showed us the outbreak on LV 223. He was, in fact, showing us why, how, and approximately when, the derelict went down on LV 426. I love that ridley was able to intimate the story of the derelict craft without actually showing the vessel go down on LV 426. This way... we get some general answers, a great mystery/puzzle, and the real mystery and mystique of the original derelict is kept intact (because ridley didnt show the ship crashing. that would have been way too on the nose IMO). As long as the sequel is a real quality film, im totally on board. I like the narrative a great deal.

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