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Custodian
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 3:50 AMso what is it they have, these insanely warped creatures, that makes Giger able to depict his wicked visuals?
THEY HAVE ALLURE
like vampires of ancient lore, in many ways.
Think of the original ALIEN (for me Aliens, fun ride that it was, broke this essential rule) where you have a still transmutable or at least acid-secreting lone-hunter Alien seeding his own nest. All the confrontation scenes in ALIEN were memorable for one solid feature - something the alien was or did (at the mesmerising/stun/forcefield level) meant that once it had a CLOSE-RANGE LOCK-ON to its next victim, they just stood there, not necessarily in fear, but just glued to the spot, unable to move.
This was ALIEN's real threat, that you could outrun it, but, if it cornered you, you COULDN'T RESIST being drawn into its embrace. I think this was what Giger was trying to show; that even though the bio-mechanoid contortions it shares with you would incur such a total fear and pain penalty, there was REAL SEDUCTION in the way it went about securing you as its victim, its 'lover'. Not sure whether it was a pheromone thing, or a hypnotic head-vibration thing, or a psychic possession thing, I don't know, I'm just saying, "Once you were 'under its spell' you became its slave."
This was how Aliens BROKE that, by just assigning 'grunt/hive' duties to the almost-vampire-like allure of the eyeless long-skulled horror. Cameron's follow-up to Alien stripped the original ALIEN (a creature which LITERALLY OOZED sexual assault and biomorphic seduction) of all its sex appeal.
I think SEX APPEAL needs repeating again and again until we all understand the GREAT LOSS this franchise has suffered; it's been censored, diminished, truly toned down in that all the sexuality of its race has been scraped off like some venereal mushroom, scraped off and thrown in the kidney pan.
Bring back ALIEN's sexuality - at least give it a Borg Queen slant in PARADISE aka Prometheus 2.
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MVMNT
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 5:32 AMHave you seen the Alien that giger had originally re-designed for ALIEN 3(?)
It had a far more feminine, and sleek body. I think it actually had lips.
Gigers work had sexual undertones to it, and this to a degree transferred well. But I think that those that are more privy to his work, Necromonicon etc are also more privy to this fact and so it's a sort of conscious subtext.

Custodian
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 6:23 AMSure - in fact, as a UK northerner myself, Alien3 is one of my favourite of the post-Alien franchise-attempts.
I loved the 'locomotion and doglikeness' of this 'bronzed godess'.
There was that CLOSE UP, sniff sniff scene when dogalien won't kill Ripley because she hosts a Queen.
But that's it, the SEXUAL PROWESS, the dynamic sexuality of the vampiric xenomorph has been STRIPPED FROM THE FRANCHISE.
Alien had it, in spades, with the tail between the legs, with the strip scene watching alieinmouthporn, even though it didn't get too erotically-graphic - it was definitely (visually) SUGGESTED and/or suggestive.
[b]Every other film since[/b] has forgotten about Giger's adult-Paradise vision, for example.
[img]http://yvettebessels.com/wp-content/gallery/post-2011-01-010-hrgiger/hrgiger.jpg[/img]
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Space Screamer
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 11:02 AM@FreePlanet - Nice post!
The original Alien really did evoke the sexual qualities of Giger's work. That went out the window once James Cameron removed the translucent, smooth covering (didn't Ridley Scott call it the "Jelly Bag"?) on the head and opted for that exposed skull on the Alien. It was way less phallic after that.
Sigouney said the original Alien was beautiful - 8 feet tall, slim, alluring, while being terrifying at the same time. The creatures in Aliens looked like what they were: stalky stuntmen running around in costumes.

Custodian
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 1:13 PMSpaceScreamer,
it don't matter how tall, how slim, how carapaced their skull is -- there's something extra-terrestrial about the Alien Allure.
You'all remember Colin Wilson's Space Vampires aka the Lifeforce movie -- it's the idea that 'these aliens' just DO something to the cognitive human sexual awareness that's like a big old sulphur bomb in a toilet cubicle.
Something you just have to take note of ... you're right, Cameron stripped all'a that out of the 'franchise' and denuded (desexualised) it.
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xenodochy
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 1:15 PM@ Space Screamer
Beauty is differently defined and experienced by men and women. And the qualities females seek in males are not far different to those described by Ash in ‘Alien’ of that xeno. Allegedly.
@ FreePlanet
If the Prometheus sequel embodies Mr Giger’s biomechanical work, let’s hope that Elizabeth Shaw doesn’t end up as part of a living mural as per his ‘Spell I’ or ‘Spell II’.

Custodian
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 2:31 PMI've seen the original DRAGON TATTOO - she can handle a lesbian scene, she'd handle a xenomorph scene.
Spell 1 and Spell II would just be splendid, imho.
Paul Vorhoeven to direct would be my aletrnate-Ridley choice.
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Custodian
MemberOvomorphJul-19-2012 2:00 PMI'm a bit surprised NO ONE went into the hypnotic potential of that LONG GREAT CURVED COCK HEAD the Giger Alien has ... what was the name of that dinosaur with the long head just like the Giger Alien had, used it to emit mating calls, maybe that's what G.A. uses it for, but ALLURE being the frequency.
[img]http://www.dinostoreus.com/parasaurolophus-skull-lg.jpg[/img]
I'm basing this thought on physiology and reaction during the original ALIEN.
:)
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Custodian
MemberOvomorphJul-21-2012 3:09 AManyone?
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Custodian
MemberOvomorphJul-26-2012 2:59 AMcrivvens,
thanks, its name's on the nameplate, and the image url (properties).
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