Original Space Jockey Chest Burster

lindelost, [i]love the 'deleted' avatar[/i] even though I contend Aliens BROKE the 'alien' mythology, I still thought it was a GREAT FILM. You should have heard the gasps of relief (at the false ending) then the gasps of oh-no-not-again (as the real ending Queen Mother) kicked in. Great entertainment, and I (personally) loved the mili-cheese-script, the faux-bravado.

Unfortunatelly, there is never a space jockey around when you need one, to ask what bursted out of that SJ in Alien, but chance is big that it was lindelofs birth...

What came out of the Engineer that was forced to land on LV-426 (Alien) was a chestburster, the larval stage of the original, biological design of the Xenomorph. What came out of the Engineer on LV-223 was a torso-burster, the infantile stage of the new, viral design of the Xenomorph.

I was really surprised that this TALL torso-burster had enough space in the enginers dead body... but in space noone can hear you fart...

lindelost, FALSE FLOOR - every xeno-kid carries one, just in case. Also, the fact that original alien chestburster not only shat out a chest hole but also weed out a massive acid hole in floor that led down to what became the egg chamber suggests that [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/7655]ALIENS BROKE THE ALIEN CONCEPT[/url].

@ freeplanet... And whose to say that the hole was not made by a Facehugger on its way up to "hug" the Engineer?!?

FreePlanet - I didn't realize that the hole to the egg chamber was at the foot of the space jockey. I guess that makes sense. May be it was the queen that then slithered down to crap out some eggs.

Yea I was hoping Prometheus would answer these questions...

'' May be it was the queen that then slithered down to crap out some eggs ''... maybe, be we can assume a queen did not activate the blue stasis field.

Sundar, ALIENS QUEEN surplus to ALIEN requirements ... I don't care what the alien-fraternity say. "While Aliens was a great funfare ride (I saw it in a cinema with hundreds of screaming/gasping victims) it BROKE the Alien myth, completely," me. Denuded it. Washed it out. Cleansed of all rationale...

Ahh if a movie delivers, it is ok when it "breaks some myth" or brings the myth to another direction... Cant buy anything from some myth, if it is not written believable...

@ FreePlanet, the "rational'' was host transmigratory exchange to the members of the Nostromo not ALIENS '' funfare ride .

I've wondered along time what the Xenomorph that burst from the original Space Jockey must have looked like, given such a strange host. Now, Ridley tells us that Space Jockeys are actually the most generic looking species in this whole one-horse universe...

I'm sure the Xeno that came from the SJ in Alien must have just been a larger version of the original Xeno.

I'm sorta convinced that the eggs in the first Alien are deformed because: A) they're thousands of years old B) when compared to the shiny-new,proportional vase-like eggs in Prometheus. C) even the creatures in the first Alien film come across as a bit "un-healthy" compared to the mega-facehugger and chestburster in Prometheus.

djrees56: I signed up specifically to reply to your comment. The eggs in Alien are not thousands of years old. And the reason for that is the same as the reason why the creatures from the two films look different. The eggs in Alien were eggs, containing facehuggers. The things in Prometheus were not just vase-like, they were vases, containing the black goo. The black goo works in concert with the host DNA: goo + Engineer = humans; goo + worms in the soil of LV-223 = cobra-penis-monsters; goo + Holloway + Shaw = Nasty Mutant Spermbaby; NMSb + Engineer = the first and only xenomorph in Prometheus, the female that pops out of the Engineer at the end. That alien was the shape she was because of the host DNA that had been part of its evolution: first Holloway, then Shaw - when she removed it, it looked like a giant mutant sperm, and it continued to grow as fast as it had within her - then the Engineer. Pure goo + Engineer = humans, but goo that has been used to make a monster - because of our DNA - can be quite dangerous to the Engineers, and it comes out of them as a humanoid-but-nasty Alien. The Engineers were using the goo to grow new life on dead planets. They thought they were in control... but what if the goo changed, say, the Engineer version of the flu? This might be exactly what made the severed Engineer head explode, and why they had locked down the base, and why the holograms - their version of a flashing light and siren - showed them running in their spacesuits, and why there were dead Engineers in the halls, and why the one living Engineer got so pissed at the humans: they had gone to all of this trouble to lock down the virus, to contain it, burying it in 'pyramids' with warning skulls carved on top, and these humans barge in, opening doors, breathing the air, and in general being a threat to the Engineers, by their very presence, because the goo-mutated virus (or whatever it was) could affect humans, who have the same DNA as Engineers but aren't as advanced, and the disease could leapfrog up our Engineer-given DNA and become a threat to the Engineers and, eventually, to all life in the universe. Perhaps the humans should have considered that only DEAD gods reside in pyramids. If we hadn't been there, if we hadn't come in contact with the goo, there would not have been that new kind of xenomorph... which became a huge threat to the universe, because it infected fleeing Engineers and then used a new trick it had learned when it impregnated Shaw: laying eggs all over the place. Eggs with new monsters in them, that were specifically dangerous to us because we helped create them. (And therefore dangerous to the Engineers, because they helped create us.) In Alien the dead Engineer, the eggs, the facehuggers, the chestbursters - these are all descended from the stuff that happened in Prometheus. Humans got to LV-223 in 2093. The Nostrom got to the other planet in 2122. In between those dates, the female xenomorph infected an Engineer from one of the other ships, it tried to flee, and it crashed when a chestburster broke out of it... and went down into the cave where it grew and laid eggs. Those eggs weren't thousands of years old, they were just years old.

I like your review and you tie between Pro and Alien. I do question the Alien that burst out of the Engineer (the Deacon) as the "first" alien. How do you explain the mural depicting the Alien I a Christ pose found in the temple ik Prometheus? This tells me that the Engineers New about xen os long ago.

oh, and in answer to the original question, "The Space Jockey chestburster should have had lovely elephant ears, and a trunk!" This is assuming that you believe (which I don't, based on Alien canon) that the chestburster somehow shares the DNA of its host. For me, Alien was always a WARM DARK PLACEr, not a [i]bio-chemist[/i].