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The Deacon's Physiology

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MemberOvomorphJune 21, 2012
In looking at The Deacon's physiology, I'm having a hard time fully reconciling it's biological origins with the final result- especially it's skull. I can certainly see the human/Engineer influence (humanoid form) and the color of it's skin (Black Goo) but the shape of the cranium doesn't make sense. It has been speculated that Cuddles is shaped like a squid (initially) because these creatures are driven by some form of sexual architecture in both their behavior and physiology- a sperm cell, basically. So perhaps this has also influenced The Deacon's cranial development? The Deacon also looks a lot less mechanical than the traditional xeno- the original had what looked like pipes around the head and neck, protrusions in the back and of course the tail. It has the second jaw, but this also doesn't make sense- humans, Engineers don't have this, and Hammerpede didn't develop this- so the Black Goo's genetic influence is not entirely consistent. We could make the argument that if an Engineer got face-hugged while suited, this could account for the Xeno's greater mechanical characteristics (we are assuming the suit is not just a shell but becomes an extension of Engineer physiology). But the Engineers are unisex and so if they are not producing sperm, then how, again, would we explain the original Xeno's cranium and second set of jaws?
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it could be that deacon and xeno are just related creatures, not earlier or later versions. like lions vs tigers.. or even wolves. other than that i generally like the idea that alien already existed and decon, worms, proto-facehugger etc are all the engineered variants.
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"...deacon and xeno are just related creatures.." Now this is a curious concept,,..If Zeno is just in the family..then there must have been a source,,before the creatures we have identified in the movie.. XENO seems to be at the top of this family tree compared to the other branches.. "...like lions vs tigers.. or even wolves.." at these could possibly live on the same land mass and survive,, From what we have seen,, Engineers/Aliens and Humans,,,could not..
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[quote] at these could possibly live on the same land mass and survive,, From what we have seen,, Engineers/Aliens and Humans,,,could no[/quote] another point, humans are higher primates, evolved from lower ones,let we still co-exist with monkeys and apes. i'd find a branching family tree a lot less cheesy than rapid evolution i think..
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Why is the deacon's head elongated? Didn't you just mention the black slime? Human + Black Slime = Babyhead. Yeah, yeah, I know they just used a stupid zombie in the movie, but that doesn't stop me from saying Fifield or Holloway wouldn't eventually turn INTO the original, not stupid looking babyhead. But, more importantly, it has an elongated head because it's a freaking alien. :/ Anywhichways, what if it was really simple? What if the mural depicted the adult form of a Deacon, which then gave birth to facehuggers directly, as the mural seems to imply? Maybe it's not actually complicated at all. And maybe the deacon really IS the first step, and the trilobite was the reason space jockeys went back to Earth, to abduct people and turn them into babyheads and then make them bone each other. ...that last part sounds kind of ridiculous, I know. Then again, this is Prometheus we're talking about.
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"....another point, humans are higher primates, evolved from lower ones,let we still co-exist with monkeys and apes..." So far of the three branches as depicted in the movie,,(Engineers,Aliens/Humans) which grouping has shown any independant thinking,,action? Our human branch has entered their world..and stirring things up. The other two are acting quite instinctively.in a survivor/savage mode..not in an inquisitive/understanding frame of mind..
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@Socrates Exactly, the deacon is just a reference to please the fans of the Alien franchise, which sadly enough, it hasn't, judging by all the bashing I have heard.
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Does this all relate to Joey?
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Is the Deacon Evolving..or devolving? I guess there are Earth examples of creatureas that have sayed the same for millions of years,,,but they all seem to in the sedate side of the activity fence,, The Deacon/Xenos are very active and seem to be to evolving at an alarming rate... I guess theXeno/Deacon timeline is a bit confusing to me because of the Alien movie coming out 30 years ago...and simply understand that storyline more than 'Prometheus' plot
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Ahem... i posted in regards to the Deacon's look, and connection to the Engineer. There must be a greater connection between the Xenomorph (more precisely; the Deacon) and the Engineers that we don't know about yet. Here's my thread: [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/8149]Engineer/Xenomorph connection[/url] The Engineer is a much bigger necessity to the Xenomorph. A bigger connection exists between the two. Or so it seems, anyway... Check out the Engineer's suit in the thread. Compare it to the chest structure of the Xenomorph. Also, as someone pointed out, the Deacon has no tail. An indication of that greater connection between the Engineer and itself. This trait makes it more humanoid.
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Maybe there is another species yet to be introduced that gets thrown into the mix...
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".... Also, as someone pointed out, the Deacon has no tail. An indication of that greater connection between the Engineer and itself. This trait makes it more humanoid...." In 'Alien',,,were there any 'humaniod' features discovered during the surggery sequence? Did Ash discover 'humonoid' features? I ask that since we now have no Earthly ship..and just a Scientist and robot survivors...Who could anaylize a XENO..when caught? In Prometheus' our attempt to analyze Engineers' head was disasterous..
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"....but the shape of the cranium doesn't make sense.." What shape would make sense? I ask that not in a silly way...but as a prelude to a question I would ask the Creators// In the Bio-Engineering world can you breed a head shape? What if you could order a 'Head Shape' ..no tail..Deacon? For that matter couldn't Engineers have created.custom ZENOs around the fundamentals acid blood..dual jaw..bad attitude..?
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Possibly being grown to a Pre adult state, could have possibly limited the space for the deacon's growth of a tail and/or any other xenomorph traits.
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Don't forget the original chest-burster didn't look much like what it grew up to be, either. It looked liked a little iguana when it first came out, and had no torso between the elongated head and tail, and grew from being a foot and a half long to over seven feet tall, plus the tail for full length. If the deacon is going to molt the exoskeleton it's born with and grow into something much larger and more mechanical looking with entirely new body segments, we have no idea what it will end up as.
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"..Don't forget the original chest-burster didn't look much like what it grew up to be, either.." The Prmetheus movie Deacon..seems to be more evolved..when born..trhan the chest=burster.....I agree with you there was quite an evolvement in Alien..and who could have guessed the final result. Maybe what we saw in the original Alien was not the final evolvemnt of XENOs.....and since Deacon has skipped a couple of evolution hurdles...the end evolvement of him might be unlike what we have seen so far I'm calling it now.. the next installment will have a highly evolved Deacon..with power and Intelligence that we as yet can not foresee...perhaps with a David connection...
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What if the Engineer was infected with the black goo (reason why he was taking a nap)? Most or all of the dead ones seemed to be (the severed head one more clearly, and Beavis & Butthead commented on the burst bodies in the corpse pile). Might explain why he went all Hulk Smash crazy like Zombie Butthead and maybe black goo cross-pollenation is the key here.
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Hi Everyone, I think the Deacon Xenomorph is really unique and main uproar is the fact, we as fans, have not seen a bonafide Engineer bred Xenomorph. We are all used to the Human, Yuatja (Predator), and Dog bred Xenomorphs. :-) I sincerely think it is simple as that, and the morphology of the Deacon, in retrospect, does resemble its Engineer host in the bluish/purple tint of its chitin skeleton when it burst out of the Engineer. I am not sure what we as fans were expecting? Something more spectacular, but I was satisfied with how that chapter of the story came to an end... I simply cannot wait in hopes to see what a fully grown Deacon looks like!
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Didn't the Proto-Alien burst out of the Engineer along with an Egg? [img]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/clipboard01ce.jpg/[/img]
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Is it supposed to have a feminine and male physicality? Also, what is the nature of it's intelligence? Beast or humanoid? Or a bit of both? What is it more of? What trait is it more strongly closer to?

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