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5 Reasons Vickers is a replicant/android

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KingHippo

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1. Immediately after cryo-statis all the other crew members are in a state of mental and physical shock, throwing up and convulsing. She goes immediately from cryostasis to pushups without even drying off. [i] (counter-point: she's just really tough).[/i] 2. Weyland calls David the closest thing he's ever had to a "Son". Vickers calls him "Father", which makes her his "Daughter" [i](counter-point: she's actually Weyland's daughter, but has a different last name).[/i] 3. The pilot asks her to have sex, and she agrees. You might see this as proof of her being biological, but don't forget about the replicants from Blade Runner (Decker sleeps with Rachel, and Pris is a "Pleasure Model"). A clever replicant would be programmed with sex drive, or at least, enough of a sex drive to throw humans off the scent.[i] (counter-point: sex proves that she is human)[/i] 4. She pushes David around like he's made of toothpicks. Not exactly the nail in the coffin, but I'm sure everyone remembers how strange this scene was. [i](counter-point: David is programmed to obey her and never harm her)[/i] 5. This is the big one. It's a throwaway line unless you actually think about it. When Shaw asks the med-bay to perform a cesarian it says it was not configured for women, only men. That means Vickers had a med-bay in her private quarters that was not configured for her. The med-bay was obviously for Weyland, but it seems odd that they wouldn't program it for Vickers as well. But then again, androids don't need medical attention. [i](counter-point: just because it's not meant for women, doesn't mean women can't use it with a little 'negotiating'. The reason I don't like this counter-point is because Vickers shouldn't have to 'negotiate' with the tech. She is in command. You would think everything would be setup for her)[/i] Anything I missed?
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LordSoth
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Hmm I dunno, I thought the same too but then when you think about the over dramatic bit where she says "Father" she has tears in her red eyes. and The bit where she is leaving the ship to go after her pod before it crashes, she's moving to human, stressed, cursing and panicing. My two cents.
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Merc7
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Hate to break it up to you but Damon confirmed she's not a android/replicant, you can find the entire email conversation in this forum, posted a couple of hours ago...
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MJD
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very good analysis, i believe aswell that she was deffinetly android but a newer model to david 8, she is vickers 8 or something, since i do not understand that only men are androids here, no female ones till alien 4 with call. i even tend to think that the something bishop women from the new viral seems very android like in talking and how she looks , facial reactions etcetera.
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No she's not a robot. do robots need to do push ups? Would a robot have board room power struggles? Now, they are not running the company. She does not micro-manage the crew, but she does intervene very decisively in points where she feels their stupidity could kill them all including her. She's very strict about the deadline for closing the door before the storm. She's very strict about keeping the infected Holloway off the ship. If she were an android, she woulnd't care. And lastly... she wanted her father dead. And she died by a rather OTT bit of [size=200]stoning [/size] - which is the prescribed biblical punishment for cursing one's parents.
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@LordSoth True, androids don't panic. Replicants however... sometimes they're not even aware that they /are/ synthetic, like Deckard from Blade Runner. @Merc7 Damon says a lot of things just to keep you off the scent. The Lost Podcasts were so full of lies there was almost nothing of substance in them.
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Well, Ash did run in place in Alien when he was stressed. Not saying I agree Vickers is a replicant but you never know.

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You only needed one point, which was this: "More human, than human."
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Merc7
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@KingHippo http://mtv.com/news/article.rbml?id=1687022&weburl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mtv.com%2Fnews%2Farticles%2F1687022%2Fprometheus-secrets-damon-lindelof.jhtml&alt=http%3A%2F%2Fm.mtv.com%2Fnews%2Findex.rbml&cid=300 http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/7812 But It's okay to pretend, if you wanted her to be a replicant. My suggestion, get over it.
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@Hadley's Hope: She's strict about security (closing the door before the storm, keeping Holloway off the ship, stopping fatal decisions) because Weyland is on board. The only real act of self preservation I see is when she puts herself in a lifeboat. But then, replicants/androids aren't benign. If you look at Bishop, he didn't want to "die". Even when he was just half an android bleeding milk all over the ground, he was still holding on so that he didn't get sucked into space. He saved Newt. Same thing for David. If replicants are so fatalists, why did he ask Shaw to pick him up and take him off the planet? Why did he even offer his assistance to Shaw? I don't think self-preservation is just a human trait.
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KingHippo
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@merc7 Duder, you ever watch Lost?
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Counterpoint to the medbay... not only was it not set up for Vickers (woman) it wasn't set up for any of the crew essentially.
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Merc7
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@KingHippo Lost; an embarrassing moment in television history.
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MJD
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towards merc7 watching the discussion , hippo is totally right. you know that lindeloff lied 6 years to us lost fans to get the scorboard higher in viewings. i do believe he can lie like no tomorrow to hide the truth. so the article you sent saying otherwise is no proof . as hippo said in the podcast to lost , they deceived us all the time for no reason other than to hide a terrible ending.....
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Merc7
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Towards MJD watching the discussion; regardless of what we think in this board, we'll probably never get to know the truth since we're talking about Damon here. Are you Hippo's henchman or something?
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sorry there's NO WAY, she clearly invites Janek to sleep with her in an obvious part of movie designed for and for the sole purpose of informing the viewer that she 100% is NOT a robot.
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Whatever she is.....or should I say, [i]was[/i]. ;~;
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KingHippo
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@Merc7 Nice ad hominem argument, but no @mjd and I have never met. @Spartacus Agreed, but I think it was for the sole purpose of /convincing/ the viewer (or Captain Janek) that she is not a robot. You (and Janek) are convinced. I am not so convinced. Rewatch Blade Runner and tell me replicants don't have sex. Some are designed specifically as pleasure models.
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Sundar
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Maybe an inconsequential observation but she did have a glass of vodka where David refrained . Take care everyone.
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Jelbright
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I just saw RS call David a Replicant on an HBO special!
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Sundar, Deckard drank like a fish and RS states he was a Replicant.

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