What Happened to the Engineers on LV_223?

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Chris

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In Prometheus Fifield and Milburn stumble upon a pile of dead Engineers in their Bio-Suits in the East wing of the Alien Temple. Some of the Engineers show busted heads, others show busted rub cages. What could have caused this? [center][url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/gallery/view/img/121][img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/prometheus_screencap30.jpg[/img][/url][/center] Obviously, something got "out" in the Temple and prevented the Engineers from departing from LV_223 some 2000 years prior to the events of December, 2093. When David activated the holographic recording of the Engineers running away from something, the crew follow them to entrance of the Ampule Room where one of the Engineers perished at the foot of the door before being decapitated by it. [center][url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/gallery/view/img/119][img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/prometheus_screencap28.jpg[/img][/url][/center] Why were the Engineers seeking refuge in the Ampule in the first place? Where did they go? Were they eventually found in that room and dragged to where Fifield and Milburn discover their dead remains? Also, where are the beings responsible for this? Did they disappear? Or perhaps did they hijack one of the other Juggernaut Space Vessels as it was attempting to escape and this is what brings us to ALIEN? Could the original Xenomorph creation (Seen in the Mural) be the cause of this massacre? Could they have gotten on one of the ships without the Engineer knowing? Or was this something else? Could it have been a different breed of Alien? An interesting thing to note is that the way in which the Engineers were all gathered in one place and then killed (I'm assuming) mimics that of what we see in ALIENS and even a deleted scene of ALIEN - where the Xenomorphs drag their victims to a spot, near the Hive's core where they can be impregnated and the offspring born without danger. Could an Alien Hive have been created on LV_223 inside the Engineer Temple? Could a premature Queen have emerged and started reproducing and forming a Hive? If so, then what caused them to disappear? Why did Fifield and Milburn not discover Hive resin on the walls? Or any remains from the antagonists? Could the Aliens have ventured to another Temple in search of more hosts? Or did the Engineers find a way to stop them somehow? This topic contains many, many, many questions for you all to dissect and speculate over. Post your thoughts and opinions on this here! Hopefully we will get our answer when Prometheus 2 surfaces!

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June 09, 2012

@Antonio That second half of the last paragraph... Holy ****.... Y'know what? I was gonna post up my own theory, but after reading that. It almost seems so CLEAR! WOW! Hear me out. Allright. Basically that last Engineer was a total NUTBAG. I mean, if you think about it, why would HE, above all others, be the last one alive, and in stasis? I think he's simply an anomaly amongst the Engineers, and he's actually a sick bastard. You guys NOTICE his facial expression before tearing off David's head? Something along the lines of: "There, there... It'll be ok" ...with a motherf***ing GRIN/smile on his face. Then all of a sudden, he rips off David's cage like a psycho! Am i the only one who noticed that? lol...? I always thought the Engineers would very much be a perfect template to a "gentle giant", if you will. I honestly think that they're good folks, with good intentions. And once Shaw arrives at their home planet, they won't tear HER head off on site. I think they're quite humble. I mean, honestly. If you had such power with knowledge, would you behave in such a ridiculous way? No. -------------------------------------------------------------- Anyhow, after supporting Antonio's post, i'll say that if not that, then it was just exclusive to that GROUP of Engineers on LV-223. They could very well be considered outcasts, of a sort. Perhaps they strayed away from their people, with their own intentions. I honestly don't think that group on LV-223 does them justice. I really don't want the Engineers to simply end up being the bad guys.

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June 09, 2012

INTERESTING ANTONIO77

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June 09, 2012

An Alternative theory: The ampule room was a trap. Note that the atmosphere didn't change until one of the explorers, David, I think, seemed to depress a plate. It was after this that an electric storm fell upon the place. This is actually right out of an old Lovecraft tale, where an explorer gets trapped in a crypt due to a sandstorm. After the atmospheric disturbance begins--and comes VERY quickly--the ampules release their deadly microbes to feast upon those trapped inside for the duration of the storm. The entire room seems a lovecraftian altar... replete with a green stone. (I just posted a thread to discuss that on its own.)

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June 09, 2012

Yeah, but... Predators don't exist in this movie universe. This isn't AVP.

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June 09, 2012

There's really no way to tell. To me, the simplest answer is probably the correct one. They lost control of their weapon (black goo) and it turned on them. Maybe it was even those Cobraliens. They were exposed to the goo, mutated, and attacked the Engineers. If enough of them were exposed to the goo, why couldn't they have overtaken the Engineers? The Cobraliens entered through the mouth, ate them from the inside out, then exited however they could (burrowed through the head or chest, or simply exited from the mouth). Then they crawled off, never to be seen again. The Prometheus shows up and the same thing happens, but this time only a couple of worms are exposed. The black goo (in my opinion) seems to mutate in a specific way. Meaning, it turns life forms into Alien-esque creatures, or rather, leads them down that evolutionary line. That's why the worms had a facehugger-like head and acid blood. Which also leads me to believe that the Aliens and Deacon have existed even before the events of Prometheus. But that's my take. The black goo got out of control and mutated the life on the planet, which in turn attacked the Engineers. I guess one Engineer managed to make it to his cryo-stasis pod, or maybe he was in there the whole time. I don't know, but its all fascinating stuff.

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June 09, 2012

I think that hologram showed enough to get a picture of what happened. All of them were running to the bridge/orrery room. Why were they running??? Notice the last guy who was decapitated,he was infected and we know this because they brought that engineers head back to med bay on the Prometheus and the head showed it was in the process of changing. The other engineers knew he was infected and they started running from him and they closed the door on him. At that point the rest of the engineers are in the pod room which is likely where they met their demise right in the front of the door where they were gathered up. Many of their heads were blown apart or chest exploded. The Engineer who was awoken by david likely sealed all the doors and left all his buddies to die. For all he knew they infected too or better yet he purposely infected them to see their creation at work. My question now is.....can that engineer be in cryo for 2000 years which is what they dated the decapitated engineers body at. Seems a little long even if your aging at a slower rate.

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June 09, 2012

Did nobody notice the Engineer at the beginning eating a bowl of goo? He was the one who started the epidemic. Try this on. The Engineers were building bio weapons to unleash on Earth (we don't know why they hate us, that is another question entirely), that much we know since Earth was programmed in as the destination for that ship. But what if not every Engineer agreed with this agenda? What if there was a rogue element that was against the genocide of their progeny. Knowing full well it would cause untold problems, Engineer rogue eats goo, chaos ensues. Goes to support the earlier theory of a war amongst the engineers.

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June 09, 2012

No, no... Man. His body metabolised into something else. DNA. That was the creation scene, at the beggining, there. It was awesome, btw :D. My second favourite part of the movie. WOW.

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June 09, 2012

I can't help believe that the Engineers are at war with some other race (possible the predators) and developed the aliens as a weapon to combat them. The aliens being self-contained expansive death machines, which sole purpose is to kill and multiple? But how do you make enough of them to fight a galactic size war? Drop your DNA on life supporting planets and wait for it to evolve in alien food species, drop of some aliens and farm your army with they finish. The fact to aliens seem to be designed to use human like species for reproduction may indicate they are domestic to the engineer home world. Or a similar like being they genetically altered. Does this theory seem to off the wall? It would kind of explain the Engineers violent attack and quick desire to fly the spaceship to earth as soon as they woke him up. I mean, no bathroom break, quick snack, or hey let's look around after 2k years. He his race was losing the war; he would be desperate to get the aliens to earth to start making soldiers.

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June 10, 2012

There will be a sequel. Not enough from this film to jump right into the next Alien movie. So many questions, yet so much time until we do see another film from Scott.

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June 10, 2012

Prometheus isn't an Alien movie, though... It's standalone. Takes place in the same universe, and a tiny, tiny fragment of it is in Alien. The xenomorph. That's what Alien was about. Nothing more, nothing deeper, nothing more in-depth than. Just a movie about an alien creature running around a ship, trying to keel everyone. Prometheus is so much more.

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June 10, 2012

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June 10, 2012

The only actual clues the movie gives are the black ooze and right when david activates the first hologram sequence, right at the beginning, you hear a scream....then you see the engineers running from it. The scream is the same scream the proto xeno gives at the end of the movie when the jaw extends.

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June 10, 2012

What if the engineers are doing the grunt work for an unknown being above them? Wsomeone is ruling over them.. Otherwise who nominates themselves to suicide and at the foot of an unknown amount of black goo? This. May explain why no one came back to check on the engineers.. Tje higher beings simply don't care

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June 10, 2012

I think it was the hammerpedes, I know it sounds simple, but I just do. When Fifield was trying to help Milburn out, he cut the head off the hammerpede, got sprayed with acid, and the head grew back in a matter of 3 seconds. It looked like the damned things were unstoppable. That could've been a perfect organism in and of itself.

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June 10, 2012

i buy the the idea that the decapitated engineer are infected and the rest of engineer are running away from him in the hologram playback. I am not sure is it just me, i thought i saw something came out from the engineer head when Shaw and another doctor dissect it, before it fully explode. The piled up engineer are likely the job of the surviving engineer, maybe they were trying to destroy the dead bodies, and one of "dead body" just jump up and chase them to that door that finally chop his head off.

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June 10, 2012

chased by One of Their Own? that's sounding more than a bit The Thing-ish. I propose that LV-426 is Engineer Homeworld. :) I wanna know who the Engineers were TRADING WITH or STEALING FROM to get hold of those Obviously Foreign Ampules in the Head Room i.e. the script on them was more Chinese than the usual Cuneiform. Yes, I am saying, having watched it on TV for the first time last night, "Prometheus is potentially our new generation's Star Trek mini-series or longer." [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/7465]Faction-tastic[/url].

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June 10, 2012

@TheEgg I'm glad you were as impressed by the arm-snapper, as I was. You're right, they'd be essentially unstoppable in numbers. I've actually been pretty surprised by the ho-hum reaction to some of the creature designs and capabilities. When I went to see "Prometheus," my 18 year old movie-buff daughter was sitting next to me, and she squirmed, grimaced, and cringed her way through the entire third act.

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June 10, 2012

Maybe the airliner they were all on crashed and a Polar Bear chased them into a vault holding vials full of fascination which when in contact with projected box-office earnings greenlit a sequel.

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June 10, 2012

I was thinking, maybe the Engineers wanted to get rid of us because we are killing the planet and their creations. Think about it, the facehuggers have never been seen getting an animal. They target humans and human-like things. Maybe they are designed to only target humanoid things. We never see them eat so I assume they wouldn't target animals for that reason, and lots of animals might be too small or unhuman to host a Xeno. I also wonder why no one has pointed out the goo that David found on the wall before he pressed the buttons that showed the holograms. That goo looked like the goo the Xeno's produce in the alien movies. Also, that hologram of the Engineers running could have been a warning for Engineers to come. David must have known what the button would do. I also noticed that the language that the Engineers have is like the language/buttons the predator's have on their arm devices. I also don't get when Shaw and that went into the room full of urns for the first time why the urns decided to open and overflow like they did. Is it possible that David not only opened the door but opened them when he pressed the buttons of the door? And also, those worms, did the Engineers do the same thing they did to Earth and perhaps create life there?

What Happened to the Engineers on LV_223?

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