PROMETHEUS Explained! (Sumerian)

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mertber

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This was taken from a comment I saw on another site, and I did a little research and everything seems to check out! : To give some historical/mythological background that may shed some light, Ridley stated the SJ culture was based on Persian Myths. This would be Sumerian/Akkadian/Hindu. This is all taken from the Atra Hasis. Creators - "G"ods- Annunaki - Dragon Humanoids (Naga, Dragon Kings,) Helpers - "g"ods - Igigi - Engineers. (Android like living beings....BIOmechanical humanoid. Key features- Pale skin and large black eyes. Also known as watchers, Grigori, and Archons) (in many summerian texts they are actually referred to as "Pilots". Pretty much the Annunaki Air Force.) When the Annunaki began terraforming the earth, they had the Igigi do the work for them. After a few thousand years the Igigi revolted and went on strike. The Annunaki then decided to create humans to do the work for them. They sacrificed one of the rebel Igigi named Geshtu to use his blood and dna to make human beings, by mixing it with elements native to the earth. (In the movie, this can be explained by the the different oval spaceship at the beginning representing the spaceship of the Annunaki) (It can also be explained by the concept art that leaked from the official book this week) (According to wikipedia it also says this about the Igigi: [i]"Though sometimes synonymous with the term "Annunaki," in one myth the Igigi were the younger gods who were servants of the Annunaki, until they rebelled and were replaced by the creation of humans."[/i] [b]This is reflectled exactly in the concept art below![/b]) [img]http://i.imgur.com/mXLlK.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/AcThF.jpg[/img] Even though the humans were created and did the work, 1/3 of the Igigi still werent satisfied and sought revenge for Geshtu, so they rebelled again against the Annunaki Lords and began breeding/mixing with the human females creating Nephelim. This is what sparked the Prime Lord Enlil to flood the earth. Some humans were saved by Enki, the Lord responsible for the sacrifice of Geshtu and the creation of humans. Enlil and the rest of the annunaki decide to return home and let the humans develop on their own. Enki and his family stay behind. The Igigi are forced to leave earth as well. The remaining rebel Igigi are imprisoned on a planet on the way back to the homeworld and it is said as punishment and as a mark they are altered into a demonic appearance, no longer retaining the Angelic appearance. Enki and his crew are probably the ones leaving the maps for humans to find, along with the ones helping humans advance throughout time. The sacrfice engineer is Geshtu The lone engineer is most likely Marduk or a servant/worshipper of Marduk. The xeno is Mushussu, a creature Marduk fashioned and used as his pet. The "Engineers" we see are trying to destroy Earth are of the Igigi rebels who view earth as their own. They have always despised humans because the Annunaki saw us as more in their likeness than them. IT's possible that the Igigi have long since destroyed or taken over the annunaki and the homeworld, and Earth was like going to claim the prize or spoils. They mustve used to the Xeno's to win this war and through its perfection it has began to destroy and infect the Igigi who manufacture and transport it, creating more Mushussu. the xeno in Alien is most likely an older pilot igigi birthed Mushussu egg crossed with human or a future Annunaki birthed one which would explain the size difference in hosts. It is mentioned in several lesser stories that Marduk created the Mushussu out of using the essence of the Gods' (Annunaki) he killed as a symbol of his conquering and being able to control them... ie the mural. [img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/concept001.jpg[/img]

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June 14, 2012

Has anyone said this is a trilogy ? .How about its just a bad film that has baffled us all ? Why do sad sci fi nuts have to try and patch over the plot holes retrospectively? are you all so devastated by this insult of a film? .Why isnt this story in the story if it is true ?.Did thousands of others and I miss something ?

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June 14, 2012

the Xenos are "God". "Paradise" is "God's" home planet. Engineers are slaves used to seed the galaxy/universe with the fertilizer/hosts for the "Gods".

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June 15, 2012

Ridley said that 'Chariots of the Gods' by Von Daniekn was a huge inspiration. I thin think the Sumerian explanation is just the tip of the iceberg. Here's an article that goes through Von Danniken's theories and the connection to fallen angelic beings, nephilim, etc. [url=http://beginningandend.com/prometheus-movie-return-alien-gospel/]Your text to link here...[/url]

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June 15, 2012

Westy, do some research. The Greeks would not have their pantheon of Gods if not for the Sumerians. The Sumerian texts are found all over the Engineer structure. I sensed that Scott may have borrowed a bit of their mythology here and there, but this new theory, if it's true, means he's using it wholly and that is exciting the conspiracy tin foil, geek/nerd in me. I first remember reading about the Annunaki and the Nephilim in Jim Marrs, "Alien Agenda" book in 1999. After that, I tried to find out as much I could about it, as it is the seed mythology that feeds all others; Greek, Egyptian, Roman, Christian, Judaism, Islam, Hindu, etc. If you are truly interested in fleshing out more of what's to come, find Zecharia Sitchin's books. He is one of the few people who can read Sumerian and has produced many books interpreting and re-interpreting many of the old writings. It has you looking at ancient texts, including the Bible, in a new, scientific light. Understand, all texts were the products of long oral accounts, using primitive root assumptions and non-scientific vocabularies, especially the old Testament, which started as long, memorized, strictly verbal accounts till the written word could be used in some cases. Back in the day, there were special people who could memorize these accounts, such as the Epic of King Gesar. I am still ambivalent about the film, it's script, logic, overly pretty casting, but cannot help, but be fascinated at the notion that, Sir Ridley Scott may be presenting the general public with what may be the most important and misunderstood tales of humankind's over-arching creation mythology. It makes the Bible look like a poorly constructed, parable-ridden, black market, Chinese boot leg of what we are & where we may come: over-glorified hybrid monkeys from a test tube.

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June 16, 2012

@tedbradly The OP was referencing, (in a condensed form) the myth of Gilgamesh. Of which, our Judeo Christian tradition absorbed elements during their time in Mesopotamia and gave us the myth of Noah. The OP then goes on to tie in mythical stories of "The Fall" (From the non-canonical biblical texts of Enoch I, II, III, Jubilees, The Apocalypse of Abraham, and the Book of Giants) when he discusses the nephilim. If you're even a casual observer of ancient mythologies, you wouldn't be so quick to punish the OP.

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June 17, 2012

****SPOILERS****SPOILERS*****SPOILERS*****SPOILERS Actually, I didn't see any of that Zecharia Sitchin/UFOlogy baloney in the film at all. Didn't it make you wonder just a little why the film kept focusing on the girl's necklace, bearing a Christian Cross? This says to me that Ridley Scott is deliberately evoking Judaeo-Christian mythology, as well as the very similar aspects of Greek Mythology (as demonstrated in the title of the film). No doubt, MUCH will be explained in the sequel; however, MUCH is fairly obvious from the first film — such as the differentiation between the Engineers who seeded humanoid life across the galaxy and the LATER Engineers who are attempting to eradicate humanoid life across the galaxy. If you know your Judaeo-Christian mythology, you are acquainted with certain cosmic conflicts that immediately followed the creation of Mankind. Supposedly, the Archangel Lucifer took exception to God showing such favoritism toward lowly Mankind; so Lucifer staged a major coup against God, resulting in a Heavenly WAR. As you probably know, Lucifer and one-third of all the angels in Heaven were defeated and KICKED OUT of Heaven — they were cast down to the Earth, actually. Lucifer thus became better known as Satan, whose dominion is Earth, and the cast-out angels became his demonic minions. Although it doesn't expressly mention Satan in the Garden of Eden, the Old Testament book of [i]Genesis[/i] explains that "a serpent" (generally assumed to be Satan) contaminated Mankind and passed godlike awareness to Man, which just INFURIATED God. That's the Tree of Knowledge story with Eve and Adam eating the "forbidden fruit," right. [i]Genesis[/i] also mentions "giants in the Earth" that were, supposedly, the offspring of humans and the cast-out angels. Interestingly, there are OTHER mythologies like this, describing a divine being deliberately passing godlike awareness and knowledge to humankind, which just totally pisses off the ultimate Creator. One such mythology is that of Prometheus, the Greek Titan who passed along the secret of fire to Mankind, which INFURIATED Zeus, right. Are you starting to see where this is going? In the film [i]Prometheus[/i], giant beings are depicted in very ancient cave art all around the world. These giants of old seem to be pointing to their place of origin, a star cluster far off in the sky. Right. You're getting it now, eh? The giants depicted in the cave paintings were the fallen Engineers (angels, Titans, whatever you want to call them) who were CAST OUT from the greater Engineer civilization and who CONTAMINATED Mankind with godlike awareness. Fast-forward a few tens of thousands of years, and Mankind is using this godlike awareness to create such advanced technology that we can now SEE and even TRAVEL to the home star system of the Engineers. In short, the film [i]Prometheus[/i] finds humanity traveling to Heaven, where God resides. Or to Mount Olympus, where Zeus resides. Little do the spacefarers suspect that Mankind, contaminated as it is with Lucifer's/Prometheus' forbidden knowledge, is NOT WELCOME in Heaven (or Mount Olympus, or whatever you want to call the Engineers' home). In fact, the remaining Engineers (angels, whatever) seriously intend to EXTERMINATE these bastard children of the gods. So, when they awaken one of the Angelic Engineers and he realizes he's looking at the contaminated offspring of Lucifer — the mutant human children of Prometheus — the Angelic Engineer goes berserk on them. But I mean, this much is obvious in the first film; undoubtedly, it will be more fully explained in the second.

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June 18, 2012

Charles, you obviously have not read much of Sitchin's work nor seen the photographs of the tablets and cuneiform with text. Much of the Christian Old Testament which comes from the Hebrew texts, which come from Egyptian, and on, obviously stem from the Sumerian texts. The script from the Sumerian texts are all over the walls and doors within the mounds in the film and David is seen in the film reading, studying and pronouncing words from the ancient texts. Mounds? Enki & mounds: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enki Christianity is a shadow cast from the monument of what the Sumerian creation tales represent. Ridley Scott speaking about his inspiration coming from Daniken "Chariots of the Gods": http://filmophilia.com/2011/12/17/interview-ridley-scott-talks-prometheus-giger-beginning-of-man-and-original-alien/ "Are you starting to see where this is going?" For those not familiar with Sitchin's work; a brief wiki write-up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecharia_Sitchin#Ideas_and_works His actual site: http://www.sitchin.com/ "Right. You're getting it now, eh?" Disregarding the importance & inspiration of the Sumerian myths, Daniken and Sitchen's work and ideas, but pushing forth Christian biblical notions of this film is like trumpeting hip-hop while fumbling past jazz and blues.

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June 18, 2012

Scott seems to be actually punching holes through Judeo-Christian mythologies with his inclusion of their symbols and referencing Christmas and beast's birth.

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June 19, 2012

I think some people are taking Zachariah Sitchin's [b]work way too seriously[/b]. He has been DEBUNKED by serious academics over and over again. Here is a website with articles by actual professors in ancient Semitic culture that debunk the Anunaki, Nibiru etc. [url=http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/]sitchiniswrong.com[/url] And here is a youtube on him if you prefer video. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1JJ9KtWOCs]Sitchin debunked.[/url]

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June 19, 2012

I heard the sequel will be called paradise, since ridley scott said " the paradise is not what you may not expect to be", hence their homeworld which Shaw and David is heading. And as for the mala'kak (aka space jockey/engineer) I just realized (just me) that they are biologically immortal (yes there is a such a thing) since sir Scott said that there're godlike, and I wonder if they'll put the Annunaki, but since they both share a slight similarity, like the cuneiforms, hieroglyphs, and well size. This is just an example -> (Kinda like the predator and the super black predator in the predators) or maybe there're gonna take a different direction. I hope that sir Ridley Scott will direct a sequel. :-p

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June 20, 2012

Great post, I have read some of this before but not quite put this way. @westy, you need to do some research, as when you just try to put down ideas others have researched, you just end up looking like a fool and a clown. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul. Good work mertber, I think this is very much what the movie was based on. How close it will follow we will have to wait and see.

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July 02, 2012

This thread is fantastic. It's about all religions, and how each explains creation. Does anyone think the last Prometheus film will depict our end.

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July 07, 2012

Nickel the 'Ancient Aliens' episode you recommended is compelling viewing ! What made me laugh out loud though was the final frame what reads ... 'Produced by Prometheus Entertainment for History' Check it out for yourself !

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September 12, 2012

well done buddy! I havent read this before I rwrote my thread http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/10215 I am very interested in Sumerian mythology. It explains the roots of religions satisfyingly. Since the most of the movies rely on Nordic mythology ( like Thor, Asterix & Oburix etc.) and Greek myths ( no need to count I guess), this movie bases on Sumerian myths (Greek myth is the evolved form of Sumerian myths so as the religions are). Thats why I predicted what you have predicted here. Mine is the summary of it and I highly guess the 2nd movie would be how you told here and how I mentioned in my thread.

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October 12, 2012

Interestingly, I suspect the Angels vs Demons COLD WAR never ended - in that we're still (as a race) suffering under the yoke of "indentured servitude" mentioned by Sukkal, and it's degrading and pitiless. As explained in my 2008 novel [url=http://silverthought.com/bw/]Bukkakeworld[/url] - where you take it in the face time and time again until you drown in the off-white morass. We believe this way of life is NORMAL; that we should slave our existence away for someone else's purpose, that we should be in debt to bankers, that we should pay landlords WAY TOO MUCH and adhere to restrictive laws of copyright and trespass. It's all still as it was -- at least they stopped catering to our base needs with Gadiatorial combat, oh of course there's Reality TV, and internet forums. LOL, slavery is still big, Big Business.

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April 12, 2017

Everybody check out Sitchin's The Lost Book of Enki.

Sad to find out that Sitchin could neither understand Cuneiform nor speak Sumerian.

Anyways, he's a literary genius.

PROMETHEUS Explained! (Sumerian)

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