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Logan5

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Just viewed the movie here in australia, and yes im conflicted about it, especially as ive been watching and waiting eagerly. I am a total loyal fan to the original and A2. I enjoyed lots about it and also hated lots about it. Too many unanswered concepts..... A1 was pretty much: where did they come from and the yes the Spacejockey. This had so many elements and questions i was starting to get lost... i loved the lead chick, she kept me interested. Im still trying to understand the opening scenes with the engineer drinking at the waterfall and whats going on at the end with the Octopus ???????
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My theory is as follows: 1. The engineers were created by a master class aliens, which were the ones that controlled the huge disc-shaped spaceship that appears in the beginning of the movie. 2. They were specifically created to a) seed life with their own DNA in other planets, and b) to do the dirty work (i.e. development of bio-weapons) that might be required by their masters. 3. There is a parallel drawn between the these engineers and their yet-to-be determined masters, and the droids and their human creators (i.e. Weyland). They are both obedient to death (opening scene), would stop at nothing to finish off a task (the engineer who remembers he has to eradicate humanity after sleeping for 2000 years), and are subject to no specific code of morals or conscience. I guess Ridley Scott is going to explore the next advenuture of Shaw in her quest to eventually find the engineers' masters. I look forward to seeing it. There are a lot of religious overtones in this movie. Personally, I find belief in a supernatural benevolent Creator more palatable than one of an alien nature....... Cheers.
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for me, the ENGINEERS look like slaves. They're like the monk [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thich_Quang_Duc]Thich_Quang_Duc[/url] who self-immolated in Cambodia in 1963. Martyrs for a Cause, ONLY. We'll only meet THEIR makers in films 2 or 3 or during the TV MINI SERIES or Lost-length series ... I think this 'story' could rise to supergalactic proportions: however, I still sense there 'may be too many torn arteries' for any other Prometheus movies/series to cauterise successfully. The lack of WOMEN (so far) on the Engineer or Terraformer side, is rather conspicuous by its absence, no? I'm not totally CONVINCED this Prometheus Universe is an airtight proposition.
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I think the opening scene is Earth, and the Engineer and his ship is from a faction that wants to promote life. He is essentially "Prometheus" who gave "fire" to the humans. The breakdown of his DNA with the stuff in the dish created life, which eventually became Homo Sapiens. The Engineers in LV226 are from another faction, who oppose this, essentially Zeus. They found out about humans on Earth, and was preparing to destroy them, apparently because they know the outcome of what humans can breed by the mural inside that room clearly showing a Xeno queen. What I don't get is what the Engineers in the holograms were running from, and where the rest who made it inside the room went. Obviously the green goo and the black liquid are two different materials. Maybe the combination of those create abominations, like what Holloway turned into, and what Shaw bred, which is dangerous to the Engineers.
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This is the beginning of man. The Good Giant consumes the seeds of life (created by other Good Giants, the other "Gods" if you will) and thus gives shape to the seeds by virtue of their consumption. All of those embryos in the water are various life forms, animal and human, consistent with the mythology where Prometheus gives shape to all life forms created by the Gods. The fly over of the ship Prometheus shows scenery that could be confused with that in the opening scene, but it is barren, seemingly without much water except for snow caps. On the other hand, the opening scene shows alot of water, and a planet just ripe for life, just the opposite of what is seen in the flyover. It would be a stretch to believe that the opening scene is a counter insurgency, where Good Giants plant seeds which are intended to kill the Bad Giants, but in the process destroy all life, inclding vegetation, and eliminate most of the rivers and lakes.
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This is the beginning of man. The Good Giant consumes the seeds of life (created by other Good Giants, the other "Gods" if you will) and thus gives shape to the seeds by virtue of their consumption. All of those embryos in the water are various life forms, animal and human, consistent with the mythology where Prometheus gives shape to all life forms created by the Gods. The fly over of the ship Prometheus shows scenery that could be confused with that in the opening scene, but it is barren, seemingly without much water except for snow caps. On the other hand, the opening scene shows alot of water, and a planet just ripe for life, just the opposite of what is seen in the flyover. It would be a stretch to believe that the opening scene is a counter insurgency, where Good Giants plant seeds which are intended to kill the Bad Giants, but in the process destroy all life, inclding vegetation, and eliminate most of the rivers and lakes.
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The dlyover scene at the beginning of the movie and the Prometheus entry to the Moon seemed od similar coinstruction,,looking over the landscape, You are right about the lack of water, I'll ned to watch again to see the snow caps. In the beginning it seemed like the ship travel was to a specific spot,,while the Prometheus was searching,,for something of interest. A poster has mentioned that in the DVD movie extras that our ship spent considerable time mapping the moon. The time looking over the scenery was not fully shown in the final movie.
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Lol this old argument. If you were on the forum earlier this year you would of seen it quiet a few times try searching you''ll get some coming up. A few things to remember: 1. Ridley said himself the planet at the start is not earth. 2. There is plant life in background so this was not the beginning of life on that planet. The engineer also breathes in deeply so it points to a good atmosphere but not conclusive. 3. The dividing cells end up with 4 to 8 of them ruling out any lower life forms such as single celled life forms. And yes I agree you would think the engineers technology would advance dramatically over 10's of years let alone millions or more! I am interested to see how they explain this all.

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Then even Ripley caged it wrong in the movie. They cannot be even closely seen as similar planets. If the good Giants unleashed the bio warfare in the opening scene, it must have been so virulent as to consume water, and make the landscape completely barren, as the flyover landscape shows. And, it is wholly inconsistent with the mythology, where Prometheus shapes life, but then is banished. Even the ship in the opening scene is not a military craft, as one would expect if they were dropping an agent for a clandistine pollution of the planet. One would think in addition that the Bad Giants would be at least trying to kill the Good Giants and their ship, but instead, the Good Giant is calm and the overhead ship is casually observing and not under any fire. Presumably the Bad Giants had technology at least as sophisticated as the Good Giants, and they cant detect a casual operation along with an enemy ship on their own military outpost? How strange if this opening scene was intended as a military operation.
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Also, notice that during the movie, but past the opening scene, we always see the Bad Giants with helmets on, presumeably for breathing and filtering of the atmosphere. However, in the opening scene, the so called Good Giant is breathing just fine without a helmet. Since we never see a Bad Giant "outside" on LV-223, and we do see a Good Giant outside without a helmet, it likely follows that the Good Giant is on a planet where humans and their predecessors can breath the atmosphere (Earth), whereas The Bad Giants need a helmet so they cannot be on earth by logic (modus ponens).

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